Bingo Mafia: OVAH! Who won?

[X1-12]

Its possible Glyph no shot to fake being BP, but then last Night shot the indy who happens to be actually BP but didn't claim it?

If there's a informed mafia member (not traitor), they'd be able to kill fo sho

 

[Seikend]

@Glyph I remember you explaining why it was scummy for J.

How did you reach the conclusion the KevinM was town though, if you had never played with him?

@X1 Yeah, I think that's a possibility. It would be unlucky and unlikely, but definitely possible. 1/5 or something?

Do indies ever have RB powers?

 

[X1-12]

Basically any power that exists for town can exist for mafia or indies.

This is mafia, you can't just play statistics, How would you feel if someone said "Don't lynch me! there's a 75% chance I'm town!"

 

[Asdioh]

Its possible Glyph no shot to fake being BP, but then last Night shot the indy who happens to be actually BP but didn't claim it?

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......

Glyph already looked townie enough. If he were mafia, he could have, and should have, shot someone and gotten a bingo, or close to it. He wouldn't have been lynched yesterDay, and then he could shoot again last Night. I 99% doubt that anyone here is BP and didn't claim it, or else they would have CC'd Glyph and we would have won yesterDay. It's far more likely that we're dealing with a non-killing Indy. Whether that's Glyph or not, I don't know...

 

[X1-12]

if Glyph claimed BP, and there was an indy who WAS BP, they wouldn't counterclaim, because the indy wouldn't know Glyph was scum, and wouldn't want to be condemned upon his town flip.

Just saying guys, If we're suggesting that no-one alive still has a kill then there is at least 2, if not 3 anti-town still remaining

 

[Asdioh]

if Glyph claimed BP, and there was an indy who WAS BP, they wouldn't counterclaim, because the indy wouldn't know Glyph was scum, and wouldn't want to be condemned upon his town flip.

i hate everything

 

[X1-12]

I hate to say it guys but it looks like we're either gonna NL, or have to just rely on scumhunting

 

[Asdioh]

Asdioh - I am town. I'll let someone else vouch for me if they feel like it.
Aposl - Believe his claim.
GandhiLaserGun - Subsequently, believe his claim.
Glyphmoney - Though he theoretically could be an indy, I think he's been playing townie.

Does everyone agree with this so far?



Pink Lemonade
Seikend
Red Ruy



.... Seik and PL have both been putting in work (or at least, seem to have been) to find scum. I don't remember as much from RR, since he replaced in. However, without the innocent on RR, I would easily consider him the scum from the three of them. I called Kevin as the SK a long time ago.. looks like we don't have a SK, but if he's an indy, he might turn up innocent anyway? The innocent is probably what saved him from a lynch yesterday...

Chances are, the scum is in those three. :/

 

[Aposl]

it makes no sense for no nk except scum is banking on us killing ourselves,which doesnt seem likley

why? because scum could have gotten bingo, unless there are a 3rd group that exists who need bingo, if thats the case they are either 6, 12, and 1 or they are unable to nk (unable to nk makes sense)

the main difference in the theories being scum should just be 1 person, the other group would be at least 3

So i agree with glg who agreed with my orginal point, no lynches until nk's start up again.

shout out to the scum, if the random 3rd group wins, you lose as well, be careful who you kill or you might end up losing the game for yourself by tipping the balance in they're favor XD!


this game has been very not mafia based for a game called mafia lol!

 

[Aposl]

asidoh by default if you beleive me and glg then you have an innocent on red ryu

 

[ranmaru]

Asdioh:

Huh? Explain how one of us can be scum, yet you say we have been putting in work.. (PL and siek) and then say RR is inno. how the **** does that make all three good for scum?

RR is inno, so he should deff be striked off.

 

[X1-12]

Ran don't be dumb. The other 4 are clear, the other 3 look town, but are still the most likely to be scum.

 

[ranmaru]

I also don't like his reasoning for Glyph, either. I can see the reasoning for the other 3, though.

I'd agree if he swapped RR with Glyph.

 

[Asdioh]

asidoh by default if you beleive me and glg then you have an innocent on red ryu

ok you've been spelling my name wrong all game and I think that's long enough >:E

And indies can turn up innocent, is my point.

Ran don't be dumb. The other 4 are clear, the other 3 look town, but are still the most likely to be scum.

this.


So like, if the scum isn't in Seik/PL/RR, then I would bet that there's a 2-person non-killing mafia, consisting of GLG and Aposl. They would know everyones' numbers, and try to get lynches, and thus bingos, based on that.
However, GLG is advocating a No Lynch, and I don't see how that could possibly benefit them if this were the case, unless they have some weird win condition... so that seems unlikely.

sigh at how annoying mafia gets when it comes to this point xD
RR or PL seem most likely to me.

 

[ranmaru]

Don't forget the option of simply choosing NO KILL (being a possibility)

 

[Asdioh]

@GLG: thoughts on PL?

 

[Aposl]

fyi im the first to advocate no lynch for the day asdioh

notice anything in this post XD

 

[X1-12]

i dunno, I get an OK vibe from them, same with Seik. RR makes me wanna kill him but the whole inno thing :/

Aposl actually not gonna change my mind this time, am I number 12?

 

[Aposl]

no you are not, y do you care so much?

 

[X1-12]

Hm, trying to figure out the set-up, I was thinking that you could somehow be causing my action to fail but clearly not.

@Asdioh: in fact the only 3 I'm comfortable with are you/me/aposl.

 

[ranmaru]

Lol wait...

X1: investigate Number X
Mod: Inno on X

Aposl checks Number X
X = X1! LOL

....

My meaning is, is there one number you cannot investigate, X1? Because that number might have to be you, since a cop can't investigate themselves.

 

[Asdioh]

:/

>someone's a "Pacifist" and wins when there is a No Kill followed by a No Lynch

 

[X1-12]

My meaning is, is there one number you cannot investigate, X1? Because that number might have to be you, since a cop can't investigate themselves.

That could make sense, but Cops can nearly always target themselves, why would it be any different?


And Asdioh you just be glad I haven't mentioned by Bingo-Warlock theory yet...

 

[Asdioh]

And Asdioh you just be glad I haven't mentioned by Bingo-Warlock theory yet...

last time you Warlock Theory'd you were town. ಠ_ಠ

 

[ranmaru]

I have never seen that happen. And it would be a bit silly. :/ (A cop shouldn't need to investigate themselves, since they already have mod confirmed proof of their role)

 

[Asdioh]

Cops sometimes investigate themselves to test their sanity.
If they turn up Guilty, they know they're Insane or Paranoid.
If they turn up Innocent, they know they're Sane or Naive.

I personally would never waste it on myself if I were cop.

To think I considered investigating myself in Dissidia, without realizing my role was one-shot LOL

 

[X1-12]

last time you Warlock Theory'd you were town. ಠ_ಠ

I was just making a joke about the set-up and the ridiculous speculation you were doing about it. JFYI the Bingo-Warlock is a stupid idea and even if one existed it wouldn't be our priority right now at all

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

My explanation for why J's was fake was the same for why KevinM's was probably true, just inverted. J's, as I have detailed numerous times now, was practically dripping with forced excitement. "Oh good golly gosh it sure is super swell to be town again! Scum is dumb! Did I mention I'm town?"

Kevin has a reputation for hating to play as town. While I've never played a game with him, I followed Fire & Ice in the LoD closely enough and talked to EE about it enough to know this is true. Even early on, Kevin was barely reading the thread and posting (I think) less than any other player by a considerable margin. Enough for me to guess he was probably town.

Ran, why wait until now to bring this back up? Why didn't you pressure the occurrence as it happened?

 

[ranmaru]

I had pressured it as it happened. And now I bring it up again. (Because J flipped scum)

 

[X1-12]

Glyph that's just a lie about Kevin.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

That being said I'm willing to say a NL is the smartest thing to do today. I really don't have much of any kind of scum read on the people who aren't cleared by cop investigations, and the only person who's been playing scummy has a PR that has to be true with X1's being the way it is.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

X1 that's what I was told. I have no reason to doubt it.

Ran J flipped scum kinda a while ago

 

[ranmaru]

You mean you wish he didn't have a pr so you could push for his lynch toDay

 

[Asdioh]

Vote: No Lynch

EDIT BEFORE POST: LOL ARSONIST

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Damn straight Ran, because his play would otherwise point to him being scum. And then we would win and everything would be wonderful in the world.

 

[X1-12]

Kevin has a reputation for hating to play as town. While I've never played a game with him, I followed Fire & Ice in the LoD closely enough and talked to EE about it enough to know this is true. Even early on, Kevin was barely reading the thread and posting (I think) less than any other player by a considerable margin. Enough for me to guess he was probably town.

This is actual complete and utter bull****. like wtf seriously

 

[X1-12]

Asdioh even if we NL we aren't doing it now. Glyph and RR have literally done nothing all game and now are both just lolling around posting fluff or bull****

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

No its not? I don't know why EE would have just made that up, just to screw with me?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Asdioh even if we NL we aren't doing it now. Glyph and RR have literally done nothing all game and now are both just lolling around posting fluff or bull****

Okay **** you bro

 

[Asdioh]

Asdioh even if we NL we aren't doing it now. Glyph and RR have literally done nothing all game and now are both just lolling around posting fluff or bull****

If it weren't for Glyph, the "J is scum" stance would have been much less .... pushed? Popular? Not sure what word I'm looking for, but Glyph pushed for J scum harder than anyone else. How is that doing nothing all game?