Bingo Mafia: OVAH! Who won?

[ranmaru]

Okay, I have never read any of his games either. I have had zero interaction with KevinM probably ever.

Which is weird since he's a cool guy

Vote: Glyph

 

[X1-12]

lol. When I say doing anything I mean doing anything actually worthwhile. Glyph has just being reposting "J is scum" 500 times and since J died doing the same with Aposl.

 

[ranmaru]

My explanation for why J's was fake was the same for why KevinM's was probably true, just inverted. J's, as I have detailed numerous times now, was practically dripping with forced excitement. "Oh good golly gosh it sure is super swell to be town again! Scum is dumb! Did I mention I'm town?"

Kevin has a reputation for hating to play as town. While I've never played a game with him, I followed Fire & Ice in the LoD closely enough and talked to EE about it enough to know this is true. Even early on, Kevin was barely reading the thread and posting (I think) less than any other player by a considerable margin. Enough for me to guess he was probably town.

Ran, why wait until now to bring this back up? Why didn't you pressure the occurrence as it happened?

Okay, I have never read any of his games either. I have had zero interaction with KevinM probably ever.

Which is weird since he's a cool guy

 

[X1-12]

Kevin has a reputation for hating to play as town. While I've never played a game with him, I followed Fire & Ice in the LoD closely enough and talked to EE about it enough to know this is true. Even early on, Kevin was barely reading the thread and posting (I think) less than any other player by a considerable margin. Enough for me to guess he was probably town.

X1 that's what I was told. I have no reason to doubt it.

Ok guys we gotta look at this. The bolded in the first one clearly states that Glyph knows this about Kev from 2 sources. Reading the game, and talking to EE. Second one, after I accuse him he tries to dissociate himself from the guilt by blaming it all on EE. Suddenly he gets caught in a lie and his story changes?

scum.

 

[X1-12]

aw man good catch Ran

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Honestly didn't occur to me at the time Ran. I mean if you want to lynch me for that, there's not much I can say.

 

[X1-12]

Followed his game enough to supposedly "know" he likes playing as scum, but not enough to remember playing with him at all.


hmmm


Vote: Glyph

L-2

 

[ranmaru]

honestly didn't occur to me at the time ran. I mean if you want to lynch me for that, there's not much i can say.

BULL****. BULL.

I WILL LYNCH YOU FOR IT. IT'S DONE.

WHY WoULD YOU LIE ABOUT THAT HUH?!?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Alright I have been having the ****tiest day and am really not in the mood for this in the slightest.

X1 my story hasn't changed at all, that's a weak *** point and you know it.

 

[ranmaru]

I don't give a ****.

That isn't a weak point. You LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED. You lied about reading up on Kev, so that would mean you KNEW KEV WAS TOWN FROM OTHER MEANS.

EXPLAIN!

also give me your read on Asdioh, and your scumreads.

 

[X1-12]

Original

1.) I saw him liking being scum
2.) EE told me he liked being scum

I call BS

"Its just what EE told me, why would he lie"

clearly ignores the fact that you say you saw him first hand liking being scum, which in itself isn't even true either.

 

[Asdioh]

somehow i believe glyph o_O

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Ran, I ****ed up. I misspoke in a post I didn't really think would be significant while focusing on J. There's really nothing more I can say about it.

X1 the sources are one and the same. EE was part of the Ice team in F&I. During which we discussed whether or not Kev would be part of the Fire team based off his play.

 

[ranmaru]

*facepalm*

Explain how you believe him, Asdioh.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Ran I think everyone looks town except Aposl like I have already said like a few posts ago

 

[ranmaru]

Ran, I ****ed up. I misspoke in a post I didn't really think would be significant while focusing on J. There's really nothing more I can say about it.

X1 the sources are one and the same. EE was part of the Ice team in F&I. During which we discussed whether or not Kev would be part of the Fire team based off his play.

Why were you so focused on J then? You were so focused, you lied about reading up on Kev's games somehow.

 

[Asdioh]

I don't understand

is scumPL reaching really hard for the easiest lynch they can find?

Seikend, I need your help!

 

[ranmaru]

Explain how I am reaching. Also explain to me why you believe Glyph.

 

[X1-12]

Glyph you are lying again

Kevin has a reputation for hating to play as town. While I've never played a game with him, I followed Fire & Ice in the LoD closely enough and talked to EE about it enough to know this is true.

Just then, you said you've never played with him.

EE was part of the Ice team in F&I. During which we discussed whether or not Kev would be part of the Fire team based off his play.

Yet you were on a scumteam with EE, discussing whether he was part of the other scumteam. That means you must have been in the same game as him

 

[X1-12]

Asdioh do you have any reason to believe Glyph is town other than he repeated that J was scum over and over

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I was focused on J because that was the whole point of my D1 play. Draw the NK by absolutely attaching to one player. Had scum killed me, it would have made the other person look scummy upon my town flip, getting them a mislynch on top of my death. If J flipped scum, that was just an added bonus. That's not to say I didn't pick J out of a hat, I'm pretty sure my posts against him should pretty well establish he did do some scummy stuff.

I guess yeah I technically lied, but I really just was not thinking at the time about KevinM at all. The name of the game was "get at J"

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Hahahahha X1 Jungle was EE's scummate.

I just followed the game.

 

[X1-12]

EE was part of the Ice team in F&I. During which we discussed whether or not Kev would be part of the Fire team based off his play.

During the game, you weren't playing, but you still discussed who was scum in the game with one of the players?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

That I did. You mean to tell me you've never had a discussion about a game with someone before?

 

[X1-12]

Not discussed who is scum in an ongoing game, no. That's against the rules.... lol.

 

[Asdioh]

I was focused on J because that was the whole point of my D1 play. Draw the NK by absolutely attaching to one player. Had scum killed me, it would have made the other person look scummy upon my town flip, getting them a mislynch on top of my death. If J flipped scum, that was just an added bonus. That's not to say I didn't pick J out of a hat, I'm pretty sure my posts against him should pretty well establish he did do some scummy stuff.

I guess yeah I technically lied, but I really just was not thinking at the time about KevinM at all. The name of the game was "get at J"

wait... so you're not bulletproof? You didn't really think J was definitely scum?

._. ?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

No, I am bulletproof and did think J was very likely scum.

X1 I guess you are just a better guy than I am then.

 

[ranmaru]

PL I have already correctly pegged J as scum, if that's not scumhunting I don't know what is.

It is most certainly not a contradiction. KevinM isn't J. We can agree on this I'm sure. When KevinM says he's town, its because he's town. When J makes a post going "OMG whoaaaa I am so super happy I got town this game! I was so sick of being dumb ol' scum" it makes him scum.

Also what meta have I used at all.

Here you ask for what meta you have used, as if you haven't used any.

And I really really didn't need meta to figure that janx out.



Please please don't throw me in the brer patch!

You say you don't need to use meta.

That I did. You mean to tell me you've never had a discussion about a game with someone before?

This is deflecting.

You lied about reading Kev's games, so that means you couldn't use meta to have him as town.

Why was kev saying "I'm town" make him town, if J saying "I'm town" makes him scum?

 

[X1-12]

nah Glyph you can die.

Lies, continual jumping through hoops and adding bits to stories to make them add up, expects me to believe that EE cheats in mafia games.

 

[Asdioh]

Glyph, based on recent interactions, if you're lynched and the game continues, who is scum?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Asdioh I have no idea.

Ran those quotes were about J.

X1 it was in a LoD game. Not the mafia olympics. No one really gave a **** what happened either way, and **** yeah EE and I talked about it. Not like me giving him advice, but certainly asking what he was thinking and what his plans were.

 

[Aposl]

lol glyph thats hilarious, i would be lying if I said I'm not very pleased with the grinder that you've put your own *** in.

now back to the important point of no lynch! No need to get all excited and lynch glyph off of this, its valid but no night kills? so...

we need to think, are the night kills adding up and we need to end glyph(possibly someone else) now or do we stay with the safe play where me and glg do our thing?

 

[X1-12]

No Lynching isn't necessarily the safe play at all, if there is someone with a NK it just gives them a free opportunity to use it.

Unvote

 

[Aposl]

i agree x1 that it isn't necessarily the safe play but it might be the safe play so why dont you give an actual opinion on the subject, if you have, I want to hear from everyone, is that okay?

 

[X1-12]

I've made it pretty clear that I'm undecided about whether we NL, and if we do or don't we aren't doing it for quite a while, not at least until we've heard something substantial from RR and Glyph.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

X1 man you are the biggest of the ****s

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

What do people think the chances of one of the cops being scum are?

 

[X1-12]

I asked for something substantial guys... Not insults or stuff we've already been over.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I still want an answer, because I feel like it is a possibility I might consider.

Well lynching Glyph based on that one statement, do you feel like it is enough to call a lynch on him X1?

Also I still wanna take note of Seikend and PL not being part of lynches of scum, granted same applies to me. :/

 

[Aposl]

me - "lol glyph thats hilarious, i would be lying if I said I'm not very pleased with the grinder that you've put your own *** in.

now back to the important point of no lynch! No need to get all excited and lynch glyph off of this, its valid but no night kills? so...

we need to think, are the night kills adding up and we need to end glyph(possibly someone else) now or do we stay with the safe play where me and glg do our thing?"

Im basically asking to EVERYONE, what they thinkabout either going with a no lynch (which was originally my idea, or a lynch today (stating that ATM glyph was the main candidate, and wasnt sure if i liked that)


glyph - "No Lynching isn't necessarily the safe play at all, if there is someone with a NK it just gives them a free opportunity to use it."

Unvote

Here X1 states that no lynch might not be safe

me -" i agree x1 that it isn't necessarily the safe play but it might be the safe play so why dont you give an actual opinion on the subject, if you have, I want to hear from everyone, is that okay?"

Here I ask him to be decisive, so i can feel him out (not because I doubt him, but because hes confirmed town and trust his opinion)

Glyph - "I've made it pretty clear that I'm undecided about whether we NL, and if we do or don't we aren't doing it for quite a while, not at least until we've heard something substantial from RR and Glyph."

here you state that you are still undecided (but do it with an attitude,like my overall question started asked you specifically)

Im basically posting this to tell x1 to chill out because hes getting mad at me asking everyone a question, by responding "Ive already made this clear!" Remember i asked everyone which option they thought was best, not just you. You respond casting doubt on the option of no lynch. Then and only then because you respond this way i say "well be decisive, dont just cast doubt on one option but then not go for it...."

In the end this doesnt help town, so im asking you to chill out please.