Bingo Mafia: OVAH! Who won?

[Seikend]

OR mafia hit the BP Indie.

Which would make the most sense to me.

Which would probably clear Glyph.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

RR I'm bulletproof, remember?

I guess maybe scum thought it was 1-shot or something? I'm actually more inclined to think that we're dealing with an indy who can't NK at this point, but honestly there's a thousand different answers as to what happened.

 

[Seikend]

Why would they go for you Glyph, who possibly couldn't have been killed, over a town PR or a clear (RR)?

Makes no sense.

Either scum went for RR, who is the BP indie, or we have no scum and we're dealing with just an indie.

I'm inclined to believe the latter, I have no idea why scum wouldn't go for Aposl/X1.

 

[X1-12]

Aposl give us results

Seik discuss the idea that RR (number 6 (godfather)) thought glyph was 1 shot and wanted a bingo.

 

[X1-12]

actually this could be some kind of mod on jungle republic. Two scumteams one with a kill and one without

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Jungle_Republic

 

[X1-12]

actually this could be some kind of mod on jungle republic. Two scumteams one with a kill and one without

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Jungle_Republic

This sounds good infact. the indy team wouldn't appear as guilty so keeping me/aposl alive makes perfect sense


hmm. That would make this MYLO :/

 

[X1-12]

Also totally very open to the idea that RR is godfather or indy or something. Would like to see way more of him

 

[Seikend]

It would make sense if he was the godfather.

I'm not sure why he'd take Glyph over one of the PRs though.

Even if the kill went through, it would be immediately clear that they didn't go for a PR, and so that the PRs were useless. A Glyph NK would point straight to a godfather possibility.

Going for a PR would not raise suspicion of a godfather, and would just delay a bingo by one Night.

As a play it makes sense, but it certainly wouldn't have been the optimal play.

 

[X1-12]

Aposl give us results

Seik discuss the idea that RR (number 6 (godfather)) thought glyph was 1 shot and wanted a bingo.

In this scenario I'm talking about a standard 3 man scumteam jfyi seik

 

[Seikend]

To go on, One bingo can't be that useful for scum.

Late game (i.e. about now), scum is pretty much guaranteed a bingo a Night, maybe even two every Night and Day. If 1 bingo did a lot, scum getting constant bingos endgame would just be OP.

 

[Seikend]

@X1

Can your results come first, then Aposl?

 

[X1-12]

wtf

I just checked and I have no results. I can't quote but closely paraphased it

"[Your investigation produces no results]"


There's also a bit of flavour about my hands shaking

 

[X1-12]

I investigated #13 JFYI

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

RR I'm bulletproof, remember?

I guess maybe scum thought it was 1-shot or something? I'm actually more inclined to think that we're dealing with an indy who can't NK at this point, but honestly there's a thousand different answers as to what happened.

That doesn't mean they tried to shoot you though, then again we don't know who they tried to shoot but this is a possibility.

I think Bingo might be a possibility.

Also X1, explain the no result, who did you search and what does it say, what you said exactly, or is there more?

 

[X1-12]

Also X1, explain the no result, who did you search and what does it say, what you said exactly, or is there more?

This is the worst string of questions I've ever been asked.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

So you looked at 13 and you got flavor of your hands shaking?

 

[X1-12]

actually wtf is going on seriously. If I was RBed thats dumb as hell, RB'ing aposl would make like 1 trillion times more sense.

 

[X1-12]

Everything RR posts makes me want to kill him, but if he's GF then that means someone else RB'ed me, but an Indy would gain nothing from doing that =[.

Aposl did you find out me? Or the number 13? If so you could be paranoid or something and accidentally roleblocking/rolestopping


argh this game

 

[X1-12]

Also guys I strongly suggest no-one votes, just incase there's a big enough indy team to alpha-strike atm

 

[Seikend]

Why did you want Aposl's results before your own?

 

[X1-12]

I didn't particularly want it before my own. I didn't much care or even think about my result because on its own its useless, but asking Aposl for his can clear someone

 

[X1-12]

FYI before you asked my result I hadn't logged into the Hydra or read the PM

 

[Seikend]

Fair enough.

 

[X1-12]

mysterious disappearance from RR there imo.

 

[X1-12]

suspicious mysterious disappearance from RR there*

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I was in class reading this, and needed to leave the room. -_-

 

[Seikend]

Don't believe in RR godfather.

As you said X1, Godfather with town's frail cop system would just suck.

Indie is possible, but I have no idea how to indie hunt. All I can base it on is Dissidia.

Indie there laid low most of the game but had a sudden spark of activity when they thought there was one scum left, and pushed their lynch. Closest to that this game is PL but bleh. I doubt that's how indie plays every game.

 

[X1-12]

If you don't believe in RR godfather then there's another mafia member. Who is it?

 

[Seikend]

Why must there be another mafia member?

 

[X1-12]

There doesn't have to be another mafia member, but the realistic possible balanced set-ups from this point (that I can think of) are

1.) There's no more mafia but a large indy team (3 players most likely) with no kill

2.) There's 1 more mafia, and maybe some other stuff.


If you think its 1.) Explain which 3 of the alive players aren't town, if you think its 2.) explain who the mafia is.

 

[Seikend]

There's not one more mafia with a NK.

Hitting Glyph one night might have been bad luck, but going for Glyph again or hitting a BP indie would just be silly.

The mafia so far have all flipped as goons, therefore neither of them were required to send the NK.

Therefore there is no mafia (or they're terribly unlucky). Or they're just not killing. Which I can't see a reason for.


I don't know how I feel about there being a large team. Not having seen any indies flip so far make me doubt it.

There could be an indie with BP/strong PRs and the 2 scum team with the powerful bingo mechanic. It just worked out badly as they didn't live long enough to use bingos.

In terms of who indies could be.

RR (Null read)
PL (Sudden push for hitting the "third scum" after inactivity)
X1 (Null read, generally inactive)

I think Glyph and Asdioh are town.

Not sure on any of those though, I don't know what I'm looking for indie wise.

 

[X1-12]

Seik Indy hunting isn't much different from scumhunting at all, just look at who you think to be not town, and remember not to give town points for attacking scummies.

Stop giving yourself excuses not to scumhunt

 

[X1-12]

Kuz just said this in another game

Gord wouldn't have the balls to take such a strong opinion on his scummate

Now lets have a look:

Responding to prod.

Vote: Asdioh

Showing where I stand on the issue.

Many of J's posts resemble his scum meta, but there is something distinctly different about them this game that I can't quite put my finger on. However, it rings extremely townie with me. I agree with Nabe that both are good candidates if we specifically want to look for connections, but I think Asdioh is looking scummier.

Thats L-2, yeah? Should be fine there.

@Nabe: who consists of the J group and the Smarg group?
@J and Asdioh: top two scumpicks besides one another.
@GLG: After you catch up with Asdioh, re-evaluated read on Seikend. Is his reluctance to take a side on J vs Asdioh simple cautiousness or scum not trying to become to affiliated with a wagon?
@Seikend, remind me of your read on Smarg.

Pink Lemonade is just being anti town. My read on em is null leaning scummy, but just the fact that the slot's being so incredibly anti town makes em totally viable for a lynch. BSL's rolefishing is kinda telling imo. And I can't really remember much input from em, if any at all. Seikend and Smargaret are still bleh from before, but I've decided to allow Kuz to get a read on em since he's the one who hydra'd with em in Dissidia, which pre' much means he probz TAUGHT em how to play (obtw Kuz is V/LA till Sunday, and I'm V/LA Saturday, Sunday and possibly Monday). Aposl's just a noob, I don't see what people find so bad about em, but if Ghandi tells me to reread back for a more refined read on em I will. Soupa is just stressful, but can't say I see anything particularly scummy about em from what I've read. And Glyph's being quite off, but a lot of that feeling's from meta of em never being this much of a troll. Not to say he's not being scummy, but still. I'll need to see more from em to call em scum or not. If your name is not here you're null or town in my book.

Before I vote, @mod request votecount. So much scumminess it hurts.

And obtw wrt Kevmo's plan to have the vig kill off all of the scummy/bad players before lylo/mylo, I'm totally on board.

 

[Aposl]

if there are no nk's going down why dont me and glg just do every remaining number until we find a guilty and who it is, I have a feeling mafia or indi cant nk or is waiting for a bingo. I also would rather see your results first glg but if everyone wants me to go first I will do so willingly.

 

[Seikend]

@Apsol

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12642578&postcount=2812

 

[Seikend]

Also, indies show up as innocent from investigations.

 

[X1-12]

Also, indies show up as innocent from investigations.

They usually do at least. My role PM doesn't clarify either way so we don't know

 

[X1-12]

I'm still open to the idea of NL'ing though. Not sold either way

 

[X1-12]

Aposl are you gonna give results or not?

I gave mine already. In case you forgot, I checked 13 and my action failed. No reason for why it failed was specified

 

[Aposl]

glg they wouldnt role block you if it wasnt for a reason, I think they want to know what number everyone is, so they or him singular want the numbers for everyone so they can get a bingo, I say we keep getting results and save em up. If not after considering this I will tell you I promise I just dont want to play into their/his hands or whatever. Also werent we going to investigate 12 not 13.


Out of the vt's im starting to think asidoh, seik, pl can be trusted not sure about the others...
Out of prs I trust glg, not sure about glyph now though...