Bingo Mafia: OVAH! Who won?

[#HBC | ѕoup]

wait, scratch that, i just saw nabe is 5, which is an odd.

 

[Seikend]

@Glyph http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12451419&postcount=321

Can you explain this now?

On Page 15 currently.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Unvote

in case other account doesn't count

Right, I am the Town Number Cop. I can investigate any number on the board and find out its alignment

N1: 8 Is Innocent
N2: 1 Is Innocent
N3: 6 Is Innocent

[collapse=Bingo Board Now]

[/collapse][collapse=Living Players]Kevin M/RR, Claimed VT
Aposl, Claimed Scout
Glyph - claimed Bulletproof contestant
GLG - Claimed Number Cop
Seik - Claimed VT
PL - Claimed VT
Soup - Claimed VT
Asdioh - Claimed VT[/collapse]Lynch between Seik/PL/Soup/Asdioh. I've checked and I'm pretty sure that regardless of what scum could benefit from getting the rows/columns that we can afford at least 2 mislynches. I'm prety confident on AsdiohTown so I'ma re-read some of the other 3

just noticed this, didn't reread.

Numbers left - 1, 2, 9, 13.

scum was - 3, 11.
town was - 4, 10, 5.
aposl cleared - 7, 5, 6.
GLG cleared - 8,1,6.

1,(2), 3 5, 6, 7, 8,9,10,11,12,13

3+11=13!

is it a breakthrough!?

probably not, but damn, gotta admit it's a possibilty.

 

[X1-12]

*reads post*

sees "3+11 = 13"

*dies*

 

[Seikend]

I love you Soup.


Just brilliant.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

goddamn if i peg scum on flavor speculation only i deserve MVP of the year.

 

[X1-12]

just FYI your post makes no sense

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

i know man

it's not supposed to, i was brainstorming about flavor speculation and then i figured that out and i was like "**** that's a possibility."

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

but in the end X1, i agree to your post about mislynching between me/asdioh/seikend/PL.

PL first? :3
then Seikend
then me
and THEN JUST THEN asdioh.

 

[Seikend]

PL, Glyph, Asdioh, Soup.

Asdioh and Soup I have townreads on. Soup is definetely not scum. If he is, he deserves the win. Has me completely fooled.

I'm pretty uncertain on the last 3 honestly. But that's the order I'd go with.

I don't mind being lynched toDay or whenever. If I have to put myself in my own list I'd say after Glyph.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

BY THE WAY 11+3=14 SO HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

LOL ****

that's funny.

yeah,**** mod speculation.

~~~K BACK TO THE REAL GAME.~~~

 

[Seikend]

@Glyph http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12451419&postcount=321

Can you explain this now?

On Page 15 currently.

To expand, Why does being BP allow the "certain liberties" you took?

Were you attempting to attract the NK?

 

[X1-12]

Bored

Unvote
Vote: Seikend

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Obligatory.

Unvote Vote: Pink Lemonade

 

[Seikend]

k, that's fine. Don't think we'll be going anywhere toDay anyway.

My play ToDay has been garbage, haven't been thinking properly.

PL, Glyph or Me is fine. Will self-vote if necessary and once PL, Glyph and Asdioh give their scum picks.

 

[X1-12]

Yeah if you guys don't mind stalling, I'll have done my re-read by Tuesday (deadline on thursday), or alternately I can do a kinda re-skim on Saturday.

 

[Seikend]

Oh, forgot about Red Ryu too.

Yeah, no point lynching until you're both caught up.

 

[X1-12]

Also people need to talk about this post:

'kay, time to explain.

D1 I wasn't on J at the end. I know I have been all over the place with J's slot.

So at the end of D1 I rushed in to defend JTB. The reason was a lot of J's play just before, especially J going from me scum to trusting me. Talking about how he could trust everyone to do the right thing. Didn't feel right at all. So I went with this gut JTB town read and tried to reason with him. I vote J, but then comes Kuz telling me what a dumb choice it was, that I was lynching the potential town PR because of a recent "gut" read etc. I think he said something about giving J a chance to prove his PR.

So combined with the PR claim, Kuz calling me out on a recent gut read, and that really I was not confident on my read on J, I backed down and went with JTB. However, when JTB flipped town this gave me a suspicion of TDWscum, which I express at the end of D1.

Why I wasn't on the TDW wagon in D2. So Nabe comes in, and his insistence that Soup was scum made me believe he was the cop. I asked him how confident he was in Soupscum and he gave something along the lines of "very". So I went with that, and tried to find a reason for Soupscum as evidence. Then the votecount rolls around, and Nabe isn't voting Soup. I comment on this iirc, and I honestly didn't believe Nabe was the Cop anymore. Which is why I didn't join the TDW wagon purely based on Nabe's "cop" result.

 

[Asdioh]

'kay, time to explain.

D1 I wasn't on J at the end. I know I have been all over the place with J's slot.

So at the end of D1 I rushed in to defend JTB. The reason was a lot of J's play just before, especially J going from me scum to trusting me. Talking about how he could trust everyone to do the right thing. Didn't feel right at all. So I went with this gut JTB town read and tried to reason with him. I vote J, but then comes Kuz telling me what a dumb choice it was, that I was lynching the potential town PR because of a recent "gut" read etc. I think he said something about giving J a chance to prove his PR.

So combined with the PR claim, Kuz calling me out on a recent gut read, and that really I was not confident on my read on J, I backed down and went with JTB. However, when JTB flipped town this gave me a suspicion of TDWscum, which I express at the end of D1.

Why I wasn't on the TDW wagon in D2. So Nabe comes in, and his insistence that Soup was scum made me believe he was the cop. I asked him how confident he was in Soupscum and he gave something along the lines of "very". So I went with that, and tried to find a reason for Soupscum as evidence. Then the votecount rolls around, and Nabe isn't voting Soup. I comment on this iirc, and I honestly didn't believe Nabe was the Cop anymore. Which is why I didn't join the TDW wagon purely based on Nabe's "cop" result.

Your explanation makes sense.

And hang on .__.

I was going to hammer on D3 on Zen but Asdioh and Aposl explicitly told me to not vote.


If you're going to scumhunt Asdioh based on votecounts, at least do it in context.

You're right.

Oh seems like a mass claim is going on, I'm a Vanilla Townie

Still rereading.

I believe this, and am not gonna mention how the Night ended early despite no contact from Kevin.

uh, no after glyphs claim I'm 100 percent sure that Kevin M(red ryu now) is scum.

This clears alot up actually, I will claim now, I am the scum role blocker I think. My role was not given a specific name, thus I hated it from the beginning, but I guess its part of the flavor, I have the ability to see one number each night and who is behind the number, I scouted nabe night one, myself night 2 and kevin m night 3, now remember all I can do is ask, who is number X, and then I find out the next day. I crumbed that I had a pr at the end of day 1 in my #1725 by asking for a mod vote count (easy way to pm the mod, if they post, instead of searching, then I crumbed nabes number day 2, I put the number 5 in one of my early posts directed at him. I didnt crumb day three because it was my number, I have been trying to lay low, and been acting essentially dumb so that I would not be caught, and today I got kevin M, and I liked the way the vote was going with him so once again I didnt crumb.

But for all intents and purposes:
Nabe:5
Me:7
Kevin M:6

Which leads me to believe glyph is 12
scum had the option of killing 6 or 12 for a bingo, why choose 12? I'm 7 so I was pretty safe, seeing as they needed 2 kills for a column, but had 2 opportunities for rows.

Yah dig?

speculation, if Kevin isn't scum #1 is, or both of them are. I of course believe glyphs claim 100%.

oh woooow. Yeah I don't see Aposl claiming this as scum, especially if he's by himself now. And here I thought Aposl might be the safest lynch for toDay...

Last thing, I have been trying to get people to focus on the bingo board since day 1

Yes you have. Not that we could do much about it without your role...

Unvote

in case other account doesn't count

Right, I am the Town Number Cop. I can investigate any number on the board and find out its alignment

N1: 8 Is Innocent
N2: 1 Is Innocent
N3: 6 Is Innocent

[collapse=Bingo Board Now]

[/collapse][collapse=Living Players]Kevin M/RR, Claimed VT
Aposl, Claimed Scout
Glyph - claimed Bulletproof contestant
GLG - Claimed Number Cop
Seik - Claimed VT
PL - Claimed VT
Soup - Claimed VT
Asdioh - Claimed VT[/collapse]Lynch between Seik/PL/Soup/Asdioh. I've checked and I'm pretty sure that regardless of what scum could benefit from getting the rows/columns that we can afford at least 2 mislynches. I'm prety confident on AsdiohTown so I'ma re-read some of the other 3

I... believe this. If anyone could fake this, GLG could, but it seems legit.

@PL/Soup/Asdioh/Glyph

What's the lynch order out of us 5 (including me)?

Would you be fine with being lynched ToDay? Explain.



Will reread the thread then say what I think.

Ehhh. Off the top of my head, PL should go first, maybe. >_< hard to figure out.
Lynching me will result in a town flip, but hopefully less numbers to figure out afterwards...

*reads post*

sees "3+11 = 13"

*dies*

looool.


So, I was thinking about the best way to approach this. I was wondering if a No Lynch would help our Cop/Scout figure more out, but then I realized that Aposl would just be killed toNight because of no protection.


I'm pretty sure we can afford a couple mislynches. My top two picks would, I guess, be PL and then Seik. If Soup is scum then ugh. If Glyph is somehow scum then ugh.

 

[X1-12]

yeah Glyph if you had any crumbs which haven't been pulled up already then quoting/linking them would help out

 

[Seikend]

... I'm slow. Didn't even consider the possibility that X1 was lying.

Why did Aposl and Glyph claim before X1 again? .__.



Without the claim GLG would have been behind Glyph for me. If he gets innocents all the way to LYLO he's most likely scum.

 

[X1-12]

I tried to make everyone claimed before me so I could set up RR to try to get away with fakeclaiming cop, upon which I could just CC. Check it:

Also we need to get kev replaced. There's been two protective roles so far and I'd expect at least some kind of investigative role out there. Get RR replaced in just so he can claim.

Also

If he gets innocents all the way to LYLO he's most likely scum.

This is a dumb thing to say considering I can't choose which player I target, whether I get all innos or not is purely down to chance

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

@Glyph http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12451419&postcount=321

Can you explain this now?

On Page 15 currently.

To expand, Why does being BP allow the "certain liberties" you took?

Were you attempting to attract the NK?

Exactly. I didn't want to push it too hard and make it look forced to scum, though BSL's "so you're not a VT then huh!" stuff kinda kept me on the subject longer that I was hoping. Regardless, scum should have picked up on it.

@PL/Soup/Asdioh/Glyph

What's the lynch order out of us 5 (including me)?

Would you be fine with being lynched ToDay? Explain.



Will reread the thread then say what I think.

(this quote should be first but I'm out of order, sorry)

I really don't have a scum read on any of this group, which makes it hard to determine anything on this.

If I'm not mistake, other than me all 4 have claimed VT, correct? Bah.

Of the bunch, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Asdioh probably has the most potential to be scum. His admitted gambit at the beginning of the game works just as well if he claims to be disappointed when he's not scum. After him Soup due to J implications, then PL, then Seik.

 

[Seikend]

Feeling better about Glyph, still unsure on X1's claim.

Definitely in the same boat in that I'm not confident on anyone being scum in that group.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

uh, no after glyphs claim I'm 100 percent sure that Kevin M(red ryu now) is scum.

This clears alot up actually, I will claim now, I am the scum role blocker I think. My role was not given a specific name, thus I hated it from the beginning, but I guess its part of the flavor, I have the ability to see one number each night and who is behind the number, I scouted nabe night one, myself night 2 and kevin m night 3, now remember all I can do is ask, who is number X, and then I find out the next day. I crumbed that I had a pr at the end of day 1 in my #1725 by asking for a mod vote count (easy way to pm the mod, if they post, instead of searching, then I crumbed nabes number day 2, I put the number 5 in one of my early posts directed at him. I didnt crumb day three because it was my number, I have been trying to lay low, and been acting essentially dumb so that I would not be caught, and today I got kevin M, and I liked the way the vote was going with him so once again I didnt crumb.

But for all intents and purposes:
Nabe:5
Me:7
Kevin M:6

Which leads me to believe glyph is 12
scum had the option of killing 6 or 12 for a bingo, why choose 12? I'm 7 so I was pretty safe, seeing as they needed 2 kills for a column, but had 2 opportunities for rows.

Yah dig?

speculation, if Kevin isn't scum #1 is, or both of them are. I of course believe glyphs claim 100%.

Sweet! Alright so **** it all if my reads haven't been all over the place toDay, but I believe Aposl and Glyph's claims.

Right now town list sits at:
PL
Glyph
Aposl
Asdioh
KevinM/Red Ryu (through the work of Aposl + Asdioh)

That leaves just GLG, Seik, and Soupamario who I am unsure of.


in case other account doesn't count

Right, I am the Town Number Cop. I can investigate any number on the board and find out its alignment

N1: 8 Is Innocent
N2: 1 Is Innocent
N3: 6 Is Innocent

[collapse=Bingo Board Now]

[/collapse][collapse=Living Players]Kevin M/RR, Claimed VT
Aposl, Claimed Scout
Glyph - claimed Bulletproof contestant
GLG - Claimed Number Cop
Seik - Claimed VT
PL - Claimed VT
Soup - Claimed VT
Asdioh - Claimed VT[/collapse]Lynch between Seik/PL/Soup/Asdioh. I've checked and I'm pretty sure that regardless of what scum could benefit from getting the rows/columns that we can afford at least 2 mislynches. I'm prety confident on AsdiohTown so I'ma re-read some of the other 3[/QUOTE]

Alright, so I do believe that the info GLG has provided us with is legit. However, I'm cautious over whether his claim is legit because all the info he provided us with is info available to scum as well as town. GLG's role depends on Aposl's role to be helpful, but Aposl's role could also stand on its own. The lesson is just be wary of X1 if we end up being the lynch toDay and don't take the claim as absolute fact.

@PL/Soup/Asdioh/Glyph

What's the lynch order out of us 5 (including me)?

Would you be fine with being lynched ToDay? Explain.



Will reread the thread then say what I think.

I refuse to support a Glyph lynch, so swap Glyph with GLG.

Of those people the order is Seikend>GLG/Soup>PL>Asdioh

I find Seikend the most suspicious overall, taking in his stances on J, TDW, and adding Glyph back into his scum pool the beginning of toDay with very little reasoning. Next I would say GLG or Soup, it's really hard to choose between the two. If Aposl is still alive then there is reason to keep GLG alive and see what the results reveal, and if Aposl is still alive that means GLG has to stay on good behavior even if he is scum because if he gets a guilty on a number that Aposl reveals to be player X and the flip proves differently, then its game over for him. Next is Soup because he has done some scummy things, could be scum but if so he's done a really good job. I would rather have my own lynch over Asdioh because Asdioh actually does work, and I know I will be hard pressed for time until May 5th because of finals so he's a much stronger townie to keep around than us.

Basically I think game will be over after either a Seik or GLG lynch. Soup after that if we still haven't hit scum.

I would be okay with dying toDay because as I've said, I know we have not been most useful townie and our lynch is better than Glyph or Asdioh. Just remember to be wary of GLG's claim and you'll be fine.

*reads post*

sees "3+11 = 13"

*dies*

LOL this just made my day :3

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Thought you were CC'ing for a minute there, but I think you just left out the quote tags haha

 

[Seikend]

PL isn't being lynched.


I am good with being lynched toDay, if it'll make people consider X1 scum.

Soup, Aposl, Red Ryu are TOWN.
Town reads on PL, Glyph and Asdioh.

 

[X1-12]

Seik do you think I am scum?

 

[Aposl]

me and glg could investigate # 12 to see if glyph is on the level, we have Red Ryu's flip to see if glg is on the level, but for now, it really is a toss up between all vanilla townies besides red ryu. I mean, glg has no reason to make red ryu look innocent so I believe his claim, and glyph's ability goes away with a bingo, so basically we should lynch between

Seikend
Soup
PL
and Asidoh,

unfortunately we have no (pr) leads after that. Me being the nk is a good thing however because it prevents a bingo XD (lets hope we dont lynch #1)

 

[Seikend]

@X1 Nah, null read on you.

Just I feel everyone else is town at this point.

 

[X1-12]

Aposl you're very likely dying toNight (unless scum are gonna chance it on the benefits they'd get from a Bingo). Your results wont help us. Not to mention Night action results prbobably aren't trustable on a Night where scum get Bingo

Also I definitely already gave that lynch pool.


@Seik: Was there anything that prompted you to post this?
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=12619665#post12619665

 

[Aposl]

I agree that I am dying tonight, but that doesn't mean that I cant try to figure as much as possible out before then.

 

[Seikend]

@X1

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12617843&postcount=2508
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12617914&postcount=2510

This.

 

[Asdioh]

._. both PL and Seik are willing to give themselves up for a lynch. Dammit.

 

[Seikend]

._. both PL and Seik are willing to give themselves up for a lynch. Dammit.

Everyone is town .

 

[X1-12]

@Aposl

Please explain how your PR crumb was a PR crumb
Why did you investigate those people on those nights?

Take back Aposl Town, I'm not so sure.

This is scummy. You take back Aposl town because his crumb was **** (like his whole play) and because he didn't explain why he investigated certain people?

 

[Seikend]

lol X1. We get it. You think I'm scum.

Who's scum when I flip town?

 

[X1-12]

lol Seik. I get it. You won't explain yourself

Redirection like that was what made me push TDW you know? I've clearly stated my opinions on all the players in the lynch pool. Why even ask that?

 

[Seikend]

You've said Asdioh town.

I'd like your thoughts on the rest before we go anywhere else.

Vote:Seikend

Reread, and give me a lynch order please.

 

[Seikend]

Unvote
Vote:Seikend

Can't remember if my vote is somewhere