Beta 3.2 OP UPDATED 2/19 @ 12:20PM

[leafgreen386]

Kupo. The 50% hitlag already screws up zss enough, and we can only speed up her moves so much. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with the current hitlag code we're running, so until we can just completely exempt zss's stuns from it I really think we shouldn't screw with it any more.

@Fixing the cstick: However much I hate it, I believe some people use it intentionally to perform tilts. Also, if the cstick truly is just a macro of smash+A, then I don't think there's any real way to fix it, since the game reads it as you holding a direction, and then on the next frame... you still holding that direction but also pressing A.

 

[kupo15]

Leaf, I see NO problems with ZSS at all. None. Nothing. It works like before. That's what my tv is showing me

 

[shanus]

Almas made a bug in the char specific grav code, please test this fixed version:


PLEASE TEST

Beta 1.3.2 Changelist Write-Up:  (NOT FOR RELEASE YET)

Ganondorf's choke= After frame 20, 1.3x
Samus' homing missles, after frame 20= 2
Samus' super missles, after frame 25= 2
Ivysaur= After frame 10, 1.5x faster.
ZSS Charged blaster now has less lag afterwards.
Bowser Grab Release set to 23 frames.
Bowser Don't Care: Now follows .9 * X -.4 where X = incoming damage.


Wolf has been modified to be heavier again, but much more playable.
Samus now has a bit more down gravity and a bit faster fast fall.
Mario is now slightly heavier.
Sheik is now slightly heavier and faster in the air.
Zelda has a shorter short hop.
Ice climbers have a slight increase in down gravity.
Pit's overall gravity has been increased slightly.
D3's FF speed has been dropped slightly.
MK SH raised from .85 to .9.

Chara	ID	SH	FH	FF	DGrav	Grav	Filler
Mario	0	0.900	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
DK	1	0.850	1.000	1.400	1.000	1.000	0
Link	2	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.000	0
Samus	3	0.800	1.025	1.300	1.175	1.000	0
Yoshi	4	1.050	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.000	0
Kirby	5	1.000	1.000	1.100	1.000	1.000	0
Fox	6	0.900	1.100	1.150	1.200	1.100	0
Pikachu	7	1.000	1.000	1.150	1.000	1.000	0
Luigi	8	0.950	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Falcon	9	0.900	1.100	1.150	1.200	1.100	0
Ness	A	1.000	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Bowser	B	0.950	0.950	1.200	1.025	0.950	0
Peach	C	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Zelda	D	0.900	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Sheik	E	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.050	0
Clim 	F	0.800	1.050	1.300	1.100	1.000	0
Marth	11	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
G&W	12	1.000	1.000	1.100	1.000	1.000	0
Falco	13	0.900	1.050	1.150	1.200	1.100	0
Ganon	14	1.025	1.050	1.100	1.000	1.000	0
Wario	15	1.000	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
MK	16	0.900	0.900	1.300	1.100	0.950	0
Pit	17	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.100	1.025	0
ZSS	18	0.900	1.000	1.200	1.050	1.000	0
Olimar	19	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Lucas	1A	1.000	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Diddy	1B	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.050	0
Chariz	1D	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.150	0.950	0
Squirt	1E	0.900	1.050	1.300	1.050	1.000	0
Ivysaur	1F	1.025	1.025	1.200	1.050	1.000	0
Dedede	20	1.000	1.025	1.150	0.950	1.000	0
Lucario	21	0.900	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Ike	22	1.000	1.050	1.100	1.025	1.025	0
ROB	23	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.050	0
Jiggs	25	0.950	1.000	1.300	1.000	1.000	0
Toony	29	1.000	1.000	1.300	1.150	1.000	0
Wolf	2C	1.025	1.025	1.200	0.850	1.100	0
Snake	2E	0.950	1.400	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Sonic	2F	0.950	1.000	1.300	1.250	1.000	0

RSBE01
Smash Bros Brawl (US)

Brawlplusery Codeset V1.3.2 Beta

WiiRD Codes

Default Settings Modifier [9 lines]
24494A98 80000000
20523300 00000000
04523300 DEADBEEF
42000000 90000000
0417F360 00000104
0417F364 04000A00
0417F368 08010101
0417F36C 01000000
E0000000 80008000

Level Freezer[Phantom Wings/Almas, 8 Lines]
4A000000 90000000
1416A904 BF800000
22623090 00000014
22623090 0000001C
1416A904 3F800000
E0000000 80008000

Buffer [Phantom Wings, 23 lines]
80000000 80623320
80000001 00000000
60000006 00000000
60000003 00000001
4A001000 00000000
4A101001 00000000
36000000 00000032
58010000 00000004
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000060
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000068
30000154 00000009
1400015C 00000001
14000150 00000001
E2000001 00000000
80100001 00000008
62000000 00000001
E200000F 00000000
80000001 00000000
80100000 00000244
62000000 00000000
E0000000 80008000

ASM Codes

Dash Dancing [Phantom Wings, 5 Lines]
C271F474 00000004
81830058 2C0C000E
4182000C C0230040
48000008 FC20D090
60000000 00000000

Shield Stun [spunit262, 6 Lines]
C28753FC 00000005
83810034 8083013C
2C040000 41810014
1F9C000B 3B9C0016
38800005 7F9C23D6
60000000 00000000

P.Trainer No Swap on Death [Y.S./Phantom Wings, 11 Lines]
C2816AF4 0000000A
3E408062 3A523320
3A60FFFF 3E730001
7E732038 1E730244
7E529A14 80120000
2C00001D 41800024
2C000022 4181001C
2C170115 41820014
38A5FFFF 2C050000
40800008 38A00002
7C0802A6 00000000

No Autosweetspot Ledges [spunit262, 7 Lines]
C27812B0 00000006
2C04000A 40A20020
8181003C 816C0018
C00B0010 C02B001C
FC000840 40A10008
38000000 5400CFFF
60000000 00000000

Character Specific Launch Modifiers [Almas, 29 Lines]
C285765C 0000001C
3FA0805A 63BD92C4
2C002F00 4082000C
C3FD0000 480000BC
2C002F20 4082000C
8083C594 48000034
2C002F14 4082000C
8083C59C 48000024
2C002F40 4082000C
8083C574 48000014
2C002F5C 41820008
4E800020 8083C558
3FA0805A 63BD9200
83DD0000 57C5463E
7C052000 4182001C
3BBD0004 3FE0805A
63FF929C 7C1DF800
4082FFE0 4E800020
2C002F20 4082000C
57C0673E 48000028
2C002F14 4082000C
57C0873E 48000018
2C002F40 4082000C
57C0C73E 48000008
57C0A73E 1C000004
3FA0805A 63BD929C
7FBD0214 C3FD0000
EC3F0072 4E800020
60000000 00000000

Character Specific Gravity Modifiers [Almas, 21 Lines]
C281CAD0 00000014
2C080000 40800094
3D80805A 618C9200
8088F5A0 2C09FFFF
40820014 2C040002
40820034 C2EC00A4
4800006C 2C040016
40820024 3C60805B
60634FD8 2C170117
4182000C 7C171800
4082000C C2EC00D0
48000044 80AC0000
54A3463E 7C032000
4182001C 398C0004
3C00805A 600092A0
7C0C0000 4082FFE0
4E800020 54A5E73E
1CA50004 3D80805A
618C92A0 7D8C2A14
C2EC0000 EC370072
4E800020 00000000

Hitlag Modifier [Phantom Wings/Almas/spunit262, 8 Lines]
C2771EAC 00000003
1C840005 3884000A
39C0000A 7C8473D6
2C040000 00000000
C2876220 00000003
1C840005 38840014
39C0000A 7C8473D6
80660064 00000000

Bowser's Thick Skin [Almas, 8 Lines]
04001800 3F000000
04001804 3F666666
04001808 3ECCCCCC
C276967C 00000008
3C608000 60631800
C0030000 8004C690
2C00000B 40820024
FC010040 4080000C
EC210828 48000014
C0030004 EC210032
C0030008 EC210028
3C6080AD 00000000

Character Id Fix [spunit262, 3 Lines]
C28152E4 00000002
819E003C 907EFFFC
60000000 00000000

Frame Speed Mod Engine[Phantom Wings/spunit262, 21 Lines]
C2766C20 00000014
D01F0010 3C008180
807D0008 8063FFFC
7C030000 4080000C
80630030 48000008
386000FF 809D0014
C0240040 FC40081E
D8410008 8001000C
FC210028 80BD007C
80A50038 38C200D8
84E60008 2C070000
41820048 7CE8C671
41A0000C 7C081800
4082FFE8 54E8863E
7C004000 41A0FFDC
54E8043E 7C082800
4082FFD0 C0060004
FC21002A C04283D8
FC011040 40A00008
FC201090 D0240040
60000000 00000000

Dash Cancel [Phantom Wings/spunit262, 8 Lines]
C2764EBC 00000007
90810014 54846CFE
2C0417E5 41A00024
8081009C 80A4007C
80A50038 2C050005
40A20010 3C004F00
80840014 90040040
60000000 00000000

Constants

No Stale Moves/Keep Fresh Bonus [spunit262]
02FC098A 00110000

Tripping Rate Modifier [KirbyIsCool]
0481CB34 C0220020
045A9340 00000000

Triple Jump Fix [Phantom Wings, spunit262]
04858DCC 38830003

P.Trainer Infinite Stamina [Phantom Wings/spunit262]
04A8BDAC 60000000

Hitstun [Phantom Wings, spunit262]
02B88F48 00030001
04B87AA8 3EF851EC

C-Stick Fastfalls Modifier [spunit262/Phantom Wings]
0485E27C 40A20008
0485E278 2C000001

Powershield window Modifier [spunit262]
04B88F20 00000002

Infinite Replays [3 lines]
040E5DE8 60000000
04953184 60000000
04953224 60000000

Jump/Grav Values [29 Lines]
065A9200 000000DC
0025CB60 0114F440
0245CA40 0305EB40
0465CB40 05448440
0628AC80 0744A440
0834C440 0928AC80
0A44C440 0B33C530
0C35CB60 0D24C440
0E35CA60 0F06E840
1145CB60 12448440
1326AC80 14568440
1544C440 1622E830
1745C850 1824C640
1935CB60 1A44C440
1B35CA60 1D45CA30
1E26E640 1F55C640
2045A340 2125CB60
22468550 2335CA60
2534E440 2944EA40
2C55C180 2E3FCB60
2F34ED40 3F4CCCCD
3F59999A 3F666666
3F733333 3F800000
3F833333 3F866666
3F89999A 3F8CCCCD
3F900000 3F933333
3F966666 3F99999A
3FA00000 3FA66666
3FB33333 00000000

Frame Speed Modifier Data [24 Lines]
065A9400 000000B0
0B00003B 3F5E9BD3
1E00003B 3F777777
0A000040 3FAAAAAA
1A000040 3FAAAAAA
01000040 3F2AAAAA
25000041 3FD11111
14000024 3FD99999
1600002F 3F59999A
02000018 4036DB61
09000018 40200000
12000018 3FAAAAAB
1F000018 40555555
FF000018 40000000
FF000074 40800000
FF000061 3FA66666
FF000041 3FD55555
FF00000A 3FA66666
14140118 3FACCCCD
03190125 40000000
03140123 40000000
1F0A0113 3FC00000
18210118 40400000

 

[kupo15]

Kupo. The 50% hitlag already screws up zss enough, and we can only speed up her moves so much. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with the current hitlag code we're running, so until we can just completely exempt zss's stuns from it I really think we shouldn't screw with it any more.

@Fixing the cstick: However much I hate it, I believe some people use it intentionally to perform tilts. Also, if the cstick truly is just a macro of smash+A, then I don't think there's any real way to fix it, since the game reads it as you holding a direction, and then on the next frame... you still holding that direction but also pressing A.

Here is an idea. STOP using an OUTDATED hitlag code! Its no wonder why our tv screen don't match. You don't want to affect her stuns? Fine. Use MY code which is UPDATED and does NOT affect her stuns!!!!

C2771EAC 00000004
2C040002 41800010
1C840004 38840001
39C0000A 7C8473D6
2C040000 00000000
C2876220 00000004
2C040002 41800010
1C840004 38840001
39C0000A 7C8473D6
80660064 00000000

Give that a try (as in just TRY it UNALTERED) BEFORE making biased accusations!!!!!!

 

[Almas]

Kupo, that code adds 0.1 frames of hitlag, and is otherwise indistinguishable from other hitlag codes, unless I'm missing something.

 

[kupo15]

no it shouldn't.

C2771EAC 00000004
2C040002 41800010
1C840004 38840001
39C0000A 7C8473D6
2C040000 00000000
C2876220 00000004
2C040002 41800010
1C840004 38840001
39C0000A 7C8473D6
80660064 00000000

Orange is break point
green is multiply
yellow is add
purple is divide

hitlag is

4+0/A (dunno where the () go)

I do NOT see ANY ZSS problems with this code. Unless you tried this code today, you never played with it before. Do me a favor(everyone) and try this code as is before crucifying more!!

 

[shanus]

Here is the changelist for it all so far (I still need to test out my ZSS blaster code, not positive it works yet, its in the end of the file).

PLEASE TEST

Beta 1.3.2 Changelist Write-Up:  (NOT FOR RELEASE YET)

New Hitlag Code
New Buffer Code
New Knockback code

Ganondorf's choke= After frame 20, 1.2x
Samus' homing missles, after frame 20= 2
Samus' super missles, after frame 25= 2
Ivysaur Razor Leaf– After frame 10, 1.5x faster.
ZSS Charged blaster now has less lag afterwards.
Bowser Grab Release set to 23 frames.
Bowser Don't Care: Now follows .9 * X -.4 where X = incoming damage.
MK now receives 5% more knockback (dies 11% earlier vertical KO)

Wolf has been modified to be heavier again, but much more playable.
Samus now has a bit more down gravity and a bit faster fast fall.
Mario is now slightly heavier.
Sheik is now slightly heavier and faster in the air.
Zelda has a shorter short hop.
Ice climbers have a slight increase in down gravity.
Pit's overall gravity has been increased slightly.
D3's FF speed has been dropped slightly.
Raised MKs SH slightly (required frame perfect dair to jump before)

Chara	ID	SH	FH	FF	DGrav	Grav	Filler
Mario	0	0.900	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
DK	1	0.850	1.000	1.400	1.000	1.000	0
Link	2	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.000	0
Samus	3	0.800	1.025	1.300	1.175	1.000	0
Yoshi	4	1.050	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.000	0
Kirby	5	1.000	1.000	1.100	1.000	1.000	0
Fox	6	0.900	1.100	1.150	1.200	1.100	0
Pikachu	7	1.000	1.000	1.150	1.000	1.000	0
Luigi	8	0.950	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Falcon	9	0.900	1.100	1.150	1.200	1.100	0
Ness	A	1.000	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Bowser	B	0.950	0.950	1.200	1.025	0.950	0
Peach	C	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Zelda	D	0.900	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Sheik	E	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.050	0
Clim 	F	0.800	1.050	1.300	1.100	1.000	0
Marth	11	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
G&W	12	1.000	1.000	1.100	1.000	1.000	0
Falco	13	0.900	1.050	1.150	1.200	1.100	0
Ganon	14	1.025	1.050	1.100	1.000	1.000	0
Wario	15	1.000	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
MK	16	0.900	0.900	1.300	1.100	0.950	0
Pit	17	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.100	1.025	0
ZSS	18	0.900	1.000	1.200	1.050	1.000	0
Olimar	19	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Lucas	1A	1.000	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Diddy	1B	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.050	0
Chariz	1D	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.150	0.950	0
Squirt	1E	0.900	1.050	1.300	1.050	1.000	0
Ivysaur	1F	1.025	1.025	1.200	1.050	1.000	0
Dedede	20	1.000	1.025	1.150	0.950	1.000	0
Lucario	21	0.900	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Ike	22	1.000	1.050	1.100	1.025	1.025	0
ROB	23	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.050	0
Jiggs	25	0.950	1.000	1.300	1.000	1.000	0
Toony	29	1.000	1.000	1.300	1.150	1.000	0
Wolf	2C	1.025	1.025	1.200	0.850	1.100	0
Snake	2E	0.950	1.400	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Sonic	2F	0.950	1.000	1.300	1.250	1.000	0

RSBE01
Smash Bros Brawl (US)

Brawlplusery Codeset V1.3.2 Beta

WiiRD Codes

Level Freezer[Phantom Wings/Almas, 8 Lines]
4A000000 90000000
1416A904 BF800000
22623090 00000014
22623090 0000001C
1416A904 3F800000
E0000000 80008000

Buffer Modifier [Phantom Wings, 16 lines]
80000000 80623320
60000006 00000000
4A001000 00000000
36000000 00000032
58010000 00000004
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000060
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000068
30000154 00000009
1400015C 00000001
14000150 00000001
E200000F 00000000
80100000 00000244
62000000 00000000
E0000000 80008000

ASM Codes

Dash Dancing [Phantom Wings, 5 Lines]
C271F474 00000004
81830058 2C0C000E
4182000C C0230040
48000008 FC20D090
60000000 00000000

Shield Stun [spunit262, 6 Lines]
C28753FC 00000005
83810034 8083013C
2C040000 41810014
1F9C000B 3B9C0016
38800005 7F9C23D6
60000000 00000000

P.Trainer No Swap on Death [Y.S./Phantom Wings, 11 Lines]
C2816AF4 0000000A
3E408062 3A523320
3A60FFFF 3E730001
7E732038 1E730244
7E529A14 80120000
2C00001D 41800024
2C000022 4181001C
2C170115 41820014
38A5FFFF 2C050000
40800008 38A00002
7C0802A6 00000000

No Autosweetspot Ledges [spunit262, 7 Lines]
C27812B0 00000006
2C04000A 40A20020
8181003C 816C0018
C00B0010 C02B001C
FC000840 40A10008
38000000 5400CFFF
60000000 00000000

Character Specific Launch Modifiers [Almas, 29 Lines]
C285765C 0000001C
3FA0805A 63BD92C4
2C002F00 4082000C
C3FD0000 480000BC
2C002F20 4082000C
8083C594 48000034
2C002F14 4082000C
8083C59C 48000024
2C002F40 4082000C
8083C574 48000014
2C002F5C 41820008
4E800020 8083C558
3FA0805A 63BD9200
83DD0000 57C5463E
7C052000 4182001C
3BBD0004 3FE0805A
63FF929C 7C1DF800
4082FFE0 4E800020
2C002F20 4082000C
57C0673E 48000028
2C002F14 4082000C
57C0873E 48000018
2C002F40 4082000C
57C0C73E 48000008
57C0A73E 1C000004
3FA0805A 63BD929C
7FBD0214 C3FD0000
EC3F0072 4E800020
60000000 00000000

Character Specific Gravity Modifiers [Almas, 21 Lines]
C281CAD0 00000014
2C080000 40800094
3D80805A 618C9200
8088F5A0 2C09FFFF
40820014 2C040002
40820034 C2EC00A4
4800006C 2C040016
40820024 3C60805B
60634FD8 2C170117
4182000C 7C171800
4082000C C2EC00D0
48000044 80AC0000
54A3463E 7C032000
4182001C 398C0004
3C00805A 600092A0
7C0C0000 4082FFE0
4E800020 54A5E73E
1CA50004 3D80805A
618C92A0 7D8C2A14
C2EC0000 EC370072
4E800020 00000000

Hitlag Modifier [Phantom Wings/Almas/spunit262, 10 Lines]
C2771EAC 00000004
2C040002 41800010
1C840004 38840000
39C0000A 7C8473D6
2C040000 00000000
C2876220 00000004
2C040002 41800010
1C840004 38840000
39C0000A 7C8473D6
80660064 00000000

Bowser's Thick Skin [Almas, 8 Lines]
04001800 3F000000
04001804 3F666666
04001808 3ECCCCCC
C276967C 00000008
3C608000 60631800
C0030000 8004C690
2C00000B 40820024
FC010040 4080000C
EC210828 48000014
C0030004 EC210032
C0030008 EC210028
3C6080AD 00000000

Character Id Fix [spunit262, 3 Lines]
C28152E4 00000002
819E003C 907EFFFC
60000000 00000000

Frame Speed Mod Engine[Phantom Wings/spunit262, 21 Lines]
C2766C20 00000014
D01F0010 3C008180
807D0008 8063FFFC
7C030000 4080000C
80630030 48000008
386000FF 809D0014
C0240040 FC40081E
D8410008 8001000C
FC210028 80BD007C
80A50038 38C200D8
84E60008 2C070000
41820048 7CE8C671
41A0000C 7C081800
4082FFE8 54E8863E
7C004000 41A0FFDC
54E8043E 7C082800
4082FFD0 C0060004
FC21002A C04283D8
FC011040 40A00008
FC201090 D0240040
60000000 00000000

Dash Cancel [Phantom Wings/spunit262, 8 Lines]
C2764EBC 00000007
90810014 54846CFE
2C0417E5 41A00024
8081009C 80A4007C
80A50038 2C050005
40A20010 3C004F00
80840014 90040040
60000000 00000000

Constants

No Stale Moves/Keep Fresh Bonus [spunit262]
02FC098A 00110000

Tripping Rate Modifier [KirbyIsCool]
0481CB34 C0220020
045A9340 00000000

Triple Jump Fix [Phantom Wings, spunit262]
04858DCC 38830003

P.Trainer Infinite Stamina [Phantom Wings/spunit262]
04A8BDAC 60000000

Hitstun [Phantom Wings, spunit262]
02B88F48 00030001
04B87AA8 3EF851EC

C-Stick Fastfalls Modifier [spunit262/Phantom Wings]
0485E27C 40A20008
0485E278 2C000001

Powershield window Modifier [spunit262]
04B88F20 00000002

Infinite Replays [3 lines]
040E5DE8 60000000
04953184 60000000
04953224 60000000

Jump/Grav Values [29 Lines]
065A9200 000000DC
0025CB60 0114F440
0245CA40 0305EB40
0465CB40 05448440
0628AC80 0744A440
0834C440 0928AC80
0A44C440 0B33C530
0C35CB60 0D24C440
0E35CA60 0F06E840
1145CB60 12448440
1326AC80 14568440
1544C440 1622E830
1745C850 1824C640
1935CB60 1A44C440
1B35CA60 1D45CA30
1E26E640 1F55C640
2045A340 2125CB60
22468550 2335CA60
2534E440 2944EA40
2C55C180 2E3FCB60
2F34ED40 3F4CCCCD
3F59999A 3F666666
3F733333 3F800000
3F833333 3F866666
3F89999A 3F8CCCCD
3F900000 3F933333
3F966666 3F99999A
3FA00000 3FA66666
3FB33333 00000000

Frame Speed Modifier Data [24 Lines]
065A9400 000000B0
0B00003B 3F5E9BD3
1E00003B 3F777777
0A000040 3FAAAAAA
1A000040 3FAAAAAA
01000040 3F2AAAAA
25000041 3FD11111
14000024 3FD99999
1600002F 3F59999A
02000018 4036DB61
09000018 40200000
12000018 3FAAAAAB
1F000018 40555555
FF000018 40000000
FF000074 40800000
FF000061 3FA66666
FF000041 3FD55555
FF00000A 3FA66666
14140118 3F999999
03190125 40000000
03140123 40000000
1F0A0113 3FC00000
18150118 40400000

Character Knockback Total [Almas is a crazy brit, 10 lines]
04001810 3F800000
04001814 3F866666
C281D038 00000007
3FE08000 63FF1810
801DF5AC 2C00000B
4082000C C2DF0000
48000010 2C000016
4082000C C2DF0004
EC360072 4E800020
60000000 00000000

 

[shanus]

Need to test Almas' shortened version:
http://shanemulliganphotography.blo...eta3.2 with even shorter codes!/testcodes.txt

If it is stable, its good for release.

 

[kupo15]

If your not going to add comments, can you at least have all codes enabled?

 

[shanus]

If your not going to add comments, can you at least have all codes enabled?

I'll add comments tomorrow when I'm not exhausted.

 

[shanus]

PLEASE TEST ALMAS' NEW SHORTENED CODES (THIS INCLUDES SPUNITS LATEST MOMENTUM SINCE ITS ALMOST THERE):

http://shanemulliganphotography.blo...s/2-19-2009/Beta3.2 with even shorter codes!/


Edit:

Hitlag .4 +1 break 2 makes ZSS dsmash unable to connect with combos till 85%, switch to .5+1 with the break 2 works beautifully.

 

[kupo15]

you haven't used .4 + 1. You did just .4. Try .4 + 1 break 2 before going back

 

[Almas]

You posted 0.4x + 0.1, then 0.4x.

Is there any REASON why hitlag should be lowered further? The game feels plenty fluid as it is. Allowing for DI/SDI is incredibly important to allow counters to things like MK's fair juggle and Fox' drill combos. An argument cannot simply consist of "I think" or "try". WHY is the current value inferior?

 

[kupo15]

You posted 0.4x + 0.1, then 0.4x.

Is there any REASON why hitlag should be lowered further? The game feels plenty fluid as it is. Allowing for DI/SDI is incredibly important to allow counters to things like MK's fair juggle and Fox' drill combos. An argument cannot simply consist of "I think" or "try". WHY is the current value inferior?

I personally feel the game flows better at that value for the bigger impacts. If you compare the numbers from .4 to .5, they hardly change with the low to mid which means SDI doesn't affect those moves. I mean, is there really any clear proof as to why that setting is better? No, but it feels better and the game flows better. I don't have a problem with the flow of the average moves, its the bigger moves. They still have more impact sure but it feels like a drag.

You guys had a problem with ZSS stun gun. I fixed that. Now whats the problem? The fact that she can't perform two dsmashes in a row? Is that the only reason you have to say no to a better overall flowing game? That's like saying we should remove the hitstun code because kirby can't do the gonzo combo anymore.

I can still do a dsmash to fsmash combo. It still works. The only difference is instead of it because a no brainer combo, you have to adjust for the DI when they leave the move. Is this so terrible? It's like saying that DDDs CG is ok. A fsmash hit from ZSS is guaranteed, as in, there is nothing you can do to defend against the fsmash which is not something we promote which is why the DDD and falco CGs were bad.

It isn't like this small change breaks her either. I mean, people are talking about ways to nerf her because she is really good and combos really well. One hit from the dsmash is enough to pull of nasty combos so I really don't see a problem. The stun gun had a problem because it was purely hitlag which we fixed, and the dsmash has half hitlag and half hitstun. I fail to see how half hitlag and half hitstun breaks makes ZSS so sucky as a justifiable means to take away flow from the rest of the game. I'm not asking to go any lower. I'm just asking to do .4 +1 in the next set to see what people think.

I changed it to .4 because you got me scared by think I was actually adding hitlag which I don't think it does. So here

C2771EAC 00000004
2C040002 41800010
1C840004 38840001
39C0000A 7C8473D6
2C040000 00000000
C2876220 00000004
2C040002 41800010
1C840004 38840001
39C0000A 7C8473D6
80660064 00000000

.4+1 break 2 as to not affect ZSS stun gun

 

[Almas]

That is 0.4x + 0.1, again.

 

[shanus]

Kupo, Cape made a nice demonstration to me: Try to SDI out of MKs fair at .4x. Thats why we are at .5

 

[kupo15]

Have you tried .4 + 5? It should make a difference. We are not limited to just .4 or .5. We should be able to do .45. We have a nice range in between we haven't even considered.

Give this a try
.4+1

C2771EAC 00000004
2C040002 41800010
1C840004 38840005
39C0000A 7C8473D6
2C040000 00000000
C2876220 00000004
2C040002 41800010
1C840004 38840005
39C0000A 7C8473D6
80660064 00000000

Also, might I suggest we make hitstun .484 with the addition of the momentum code?

I also think tech rolls should be 1.5

 

[shanus]

Beta 1.3.2 Changelist Write-Up:

Uses a lot of new, shortened codes by Almas
New Knockback code affecting the total Knockback received by MK
Momentum Capture Code v10 by spunit @ 75% (defaulted to off for the user)

Ganondorf's choke, After frame 20, 1.2x faster
Samus' homing missles, after frame 20, 2x faster
Samus' super missles, after frame 25, 2x faster
Ivysaur Razor Leaf– After frame 10, 1.5x faster.
Bowser Grab Release set to 23 frames.
Bowser Don't Care: Now follows .9 * X -.4 where X = incoming damage.
MK now receives 5% more knockback (dies 11% earlier vertical KO)

ROB SH is slightly higher.
Wolf has been modified to be heavier again, but much more playable.
Samus now has a bit more down gravity and a bit faster fast fall.
Mario is now slightly heavier.
Sheik is now slightly heavier and faster in the air.
Zelda has a shorter short hop.
Pit's overall gravity has been increased slightly.
D3's FF speed has been dropped slightly.
Raised MKs SH slightly (required frame perfect dair to jump before)

Chara	ID	SH	FH	FF	DGrav	Grav	Filler
Mario	0	0.900	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
DK	1	0.850	1.000	1.400	1.000	1.000	0
Link	2	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.000	0
Samus	3	0.800	1.025	1.300	1.175	1.000	0
Yoshi	4	1.050	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.000	0
Kirby	5	1.000	1.000	1.100	1.000	1.000	0
Fox	6	0.900	1.100	1.150	1.200	1.100	0
Pikachu	7	1.000	1.000	1.150	1.000	1.000	0
Luigi	8	0.950	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Falcon	9	0.900	1.100	1.150	1.200	1.100	0
Ness	A	1.000	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Bowser	B	0.950	0.950	1.200	1.025	0.950	0
Peach	C	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Zelda	D	0.900	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Sheik	E	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.050	0
Clim 	F	0.800	1.050	1.300	1.000	1.000	0
Marth	11	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
G&W	12	1.000	1.000	1.100	1.000	1.000	0
Falco	13	0.900	1.050	1.150	1.200	1.100	0
Ganon	14	1.025	1.050	1.100	1.000	1.000	0
Wario	15	1.000	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
MK	16	0.900	0.900	1.300	1.100	0.950	0
Pit	17	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.000	1.025	0
ZSS	18	0.900	1.000	1.200	1.050	1.000	0
Olimar	19	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Lucas	1A	1.000	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Diddy	1B	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.050	0
Chariz	1D	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.150	0.950	0
Squirt	1E	0.900	1.050	1.300	1.050	1.000	0
Ivysaur	1F	1.025	1.025	1.200	1.050	1.000	0
Dedede	20	1.000	1.025	1.150	0.950	1.000	0
Lucario	21	0.900	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Ike	22	1.000	1.050	1.100	1.025	1.025	0
ROB	23	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.050	0
Jiggs	25	0.950	1.000	1.300	1.000	1.000	0
Toony	29	1.000	1.000	1.300	1.150	1.000	0
Wolf	2C	1.025	1.025	1.200	0.850	1.100	0
Snake	2E	0.950	1.400	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Sonic	2F	0.950	1.000	1.300	1.250	1.000	0

 

[kupo15]

I think we need a slight dash speed increase as well as making tech rolls 1.5. Is it possible that the gravity increase makes the characters run slightly slower?

after playing falcon for a bit now, I really think he is too heavy. He feels like a heavy toed character which he is not. I find its harder to stay with people who are launched far away because of how far moves send ppl. Melee falcon could cover the entire board very quickly and I don't feel this to be true because of how heavy he is. I propose people to try these two settings. You can still keep the same SH height but you won't be sucked to the floor. I always felt he was more of a FF to get to the ground faster character anyway. I personally like the second seting but what are your thoughts on both when you try them out?

Falcon 091ACC70 (more float)

SH: .85
FH 1.15
FF: 1.2
Dg: 1.2
Grav 1.075