Best and Worst moves in the game/for each character?

[EPsilon933]

Zelda
Best = bair. The faster of the 2 toes, short hop double toe is pretty good for spacing
Worst = down B. It does nothing for 69 frames aside from giving you 10 frames of invincibility (frames 34-43)

 

[Krynxe]

Worst = down B. It does nothing for 69 frames aside from giving you 10 frames of invincibility (frames 34-43)

It only puts you 14 spots higher on the tier list and increases your potential metagame drastically.

 

[sulliman1]

zeldas dair undoubtedly worst of her moves

 

[Pi]

'increases ur metagame'

 

[Jonas]

I practiced today and increased my metagame so hard!

Anyway, Bowser's best move = Up B
Bowser's worst move = Idk, down B?
Actually most of Bowser's moves are kind of good lol.

 

[Bl@ckChris]

ganons best move by far is his jab.

or at least his most pivotal to his being a real character.

i think, anyway.

 

[Mike G]

Nah. Her up-tilt at least has invincibility on her hair. F-tilt offers nothing. Well, almost nothing.

Ftilt's start up frames have great priority.


but you didnt hear that from me

 

[King5280]

Zelda
Best = bair. The faster of the 2 toes, short hop double toe is pretty good for spacing
Worst = down B. It does nothing for 69 frames aside from giving you 10 frames of invincibility (frames 34-43)

? zelda's down b is her best move by far. probably the best move in the game. it moves her up six tiers.

Also i agree with Mike g. In her early frames the ftilt has good priority. Can knock falcon out of his gay nairs when he's flying at you and pop him up for a follow-up

 

[BairJew]

Which characters in this game have bad bairs?
(<3 Crush)

 

[Corigames]

Worst in Game:
Ganon's Uptilt/Mew2's forward B/Pichu's Everything

Wosrt for my Character:
Samus' Upsmash

 

[Pi]

ganon uptilt : used to kill puffs missed rest
m2's forward b: can net surprising kills on BF's edge, and negates projectiles


samus upsmash: a move that even if you land, you're probably still going to get punished for using it

 

[Strong Badam]

Pichu's moves have the inherent down-side that when they're over, you're still Pichu.

 

[Bing]

Pichu's moves have the inherent down-side that when they're over, you're still Pichu.

bahaha this actually made me lol



Also, Best move in the game, Zelda Fair/Bair. Its way too good, and what makes Zelda playable.


Move I dont like... Kirby Hammer on the ground, No comboing capability, slow, doesnt do a ton of damage. Hammer in the air on the other hand, is pretty good.

 

[crush]

Which characters in this game have bad bairs?
(<3 Crush)

Pika and bowser
(<3 BairJew)

 

[Bing]

I rather like Bowsers bair... minus lag of course XD

 

[BairJew]

Pika and bowser
(<3 BairJew)

Oh gotcha, so does every other character have a somewhat decent bair cause it doesnt seem that anyone is mentioning bair as the worst move
(<3 Crush)

 

[ShroudedOne]

Zelda
Best = bair. The faster of the 2 toes, short hop double toe is pretty good for spacing
Worst = down B. It does nothing for 69 frames aside from giving you 10 frames of invincibility (frames 34-43)

I agree with you on both points. Down B does nothing for this stellar character.

Ftilt's start up frames have great priority.


but you didnt hear that from me

I've been noticing that lately...

? zelda's down b is her best move by far. probably the best move in the game. it moves her up six tiers.

Also i agree with Mike g. In her early frames the ftilt has good priority. Can knock falcon out of his gay nairs when he's flying at you and pop him up for a follow-up

See...I agree with you only halfway. I've been noticing from watching old Peach vids that ftilt is surprisingly good in the Falcon MU for some reason. It's quick, and like you said, pops him up.

But you lost my full support when you said that Zelda's down B was good.

 

[crush]

Oh gotcha, so does every other character have a somewhat decent bair cause it doesnt seem that anyone is mentioning bair as the worst move
(<3 Crush)

Roys bair is pretty bad
(<3 BairJew)

 

[Strong Badam]

I think the main problem with Peach's Ftilt is the comparatively bad endlag on it.

 

[Jolteon]

seriously wtf @ people saying falco's ftilt.

:king:

 

[BairJew]

Roys bair is pretty bad
(<3 BairJew)

Oh yeah that is pretty awful..poor well dressed roy
(<3 Crush)

 

[crush]

Oh yeah that is pretty awful..poor well dressed roy
(<3 Crush)

With clothes like that I wouldn't consider him poor...
(<3 BairJew)

 

[Pi]

seriously wtf @ people saying falco's ftilt.

:king:

not as the worse move in the game
but as his worse move

 

[1337h4xx0r]

Fox- Shine/fair
Falco- dair/fair
Jigglypuff- bair, rest/sing, f-tilt
Sheik- fair/down-b
Marth- fair/up-smash
Peach- down-smash/forward-b(?)
Falcon- knee/falcon punch
Ice Climbers- idk
Doctor Mario- cape/d-tilt
Ganondorf- fair/neutral-b
Samus- missiles/up-smash
Pikachu- up-air/fair
Mario- cape/d-tilt
Luigi- dair/d-tilt
Donkey Kong- idk
Link- dair/up-smash
Young Link- dair/arrows
Zelda- down-b/dair
Roy- d-tilt/d-smash
Mewtwo- nair/forward-b
Yoshi- up-air?/neutral-b
Game & Watch- nair/down-b
Ness- bair/d-tilt, neutral-b
Bowser- up-b/down-b
Kirby- bair/down-b
Pichu- up-b/fair

Edit: Overall, the best move is probably Zelda's down-b, and the is probably Pichu's absolutely horrible fair, which will usually do more damage to yourself than your opponent.

 

[Jolteon]

not as the worse move in the game
but as his worse move

I still don't know whether I'd agree with that, although Falco does have an extremely good moveset.

:king:

 

[N64]

yoooooo

pika's only bad move is skullbash. Fair is awesome, it's at least his 4th best aerial.

 

[Strong Badam]

yeah like
his bair is kinda eh

 

[Veetaak]

not as the worse move in the game
but as his worse move

I'm not sure... I think it's either that, his jab or his fair. I know that the fair is good for several reasons but so is his ftilt .

Personally, his ftilt is slightly better because it comes in handy more often than his fair.

 

[Doomblaze]

Falco's worst move is definitely jab. Its good, but you always have better options, like shine/uptilt/ftilt/kill

 

[Spyro]

yoooooo

pika's only bad move is skullbash. Fair is awesome, it's at least his 4th best aerial.

I thought dash attack was pika's only bad move, and I thought that skullbash can be used for recovery.

 

[Jolteon]

dash attack can be useful lol

:king:

 

[King5280]

the falcon mu is pretty much the only one situation i found for peach ftilit to be really useful. also shrouded i love playing zelda, bair/fair ****** someone is the ****, but shes no sheik lol. unlesss your cosmo
and falcos jab is more useful than the fair

 

[Mike G]

in certain situations, peach ftilt can also kill puff.

you probably heard this from me

 

[ShroudedOne]

Duly noted.

 

[N64]

I thought dash attack was pika's only bad move, and I thought that skullbash can be used for recovery.

Dash attack is pretty bad yeah, but it has some use. It gives pikachu pretty decent range, at the cost of HUGE lag, so as long as you don't throw it out in silly ways you're fine.

Skullbash has use for recovery, but giving marginal distance gain to a character that already has one of the best recoveries in the game is not that stellar. It's still used because it's better than just holding forward if you're not worried about someone being able to punish it, not because it's super good. It has (and soju may argue me semi-comically this) no offensive use.

 

[King5280]

in certain situations, peach ftilt can also kill puff.

you probably heard this from me

an exciting/amusing possibility
also the skullbash is the neutral a correct? ive seen axe use skullbash in videos on more than one occasion offensively.

 

[Blistering Speed]

Side B.

@OP, I enjoy maining Falco because I have no soul. Spamming lasers and killing puppies are my two favourite hobbies.

 

[Legend4ryFlower]

general discussion is the best

 

[Bing]

Now I want to pick up Pikachu again... I hate you all.




Not really, Pikachu's mad fun