Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

[N3ON]

You’re missing the point. If the merch performs well, AKA they see that there’s an obvious interest in the IP, don’t you think they look at that? If they see that there’s a distinct interest in their IP why wouldn’t they want to pursue the opportunity to profit off of it further?

I didn’t touch on that because not only is that extremely atypical, but that’s very unlikely to be the situation at hand.

Not simply would the merchandise have to perform exceptionally above expectations, but it would need to exist in the markets more prolific than the speciality ones in which exclusive figures and F4F statues operate.

 

[JonSmash]

Yeah I can't find those totaku banjo figures anywhere ! & there gamestop exclusive ! every gamestop I went to told me they only got 1,2 or 3 of them in ever ! then again most stores i go to nowaday barely get any amiibo in, there getting harder to buy now.

gamestop has ALL this nintendo merch EVERYWHERE but no freaking amiibos !

 

[Violante]

There was a theory that the higher ups are intentionally stifling the distribution of Banjo figures because the Amiibo is on the way...

 

[MissingGlitch]

There was a theory that the higher ups are intentionally stifling the distribution of Banjo figures because the Amiibo is on the way...

That is going to be one ****ing hard amiibo to get. I like you guys but don't expect me to play fair when that amiibo goes up for pre-order.

 

[SneakyLink]

That is going to be one ****ing hard amiibo to get. I like you guys but don't expect me to play fair when that amiibo goes up for pre-order.

Oh don’t worry. I also play rough when it comes to amiibo.

Then again, I waited until the last week to preorder so uh...

 

[LogFrog]

That is going to be one ****ing hard amiibo to get. I like you guys but don't expect me to play fair when that amiibo goes up for pre-order.

If that’s the case, I am so glad they’re not doing retailer exclusive amiibo anymore.

 

[MissingGlitch]

If that’s the case, I am so glad they’re not doing retailer exclusive amiibo anymore.

Boy do I have news for you. It's exclusive to Toys R Us.

 

[SneakyLink]

If that’s the case, I am so glad they’re not doing retailer exclusive amiibo anymore.

Oh there’s retailer exclusive amiibo. The restocks that is.

Boy do I have news for you. It's exclusive to Toys R Us.

Too soon m8.

 

[Deleted member]

There is only one Banjo amiibo and it's guarded by a grizzly bear and a parrot who talks **** about Vergeben

 

[SneakyLink]

There is only one Banjo amiibo and it's guarded by a grizzly bear and a parrot who talks **** about Vergeben

The bear and parrot? Guarded by a witch with a tendency to rhyme on a dime.

 

[MissingGlitch]

The bear and parrot? Guarded by a witch with a tendency to rhyme on a dime.

That sounds like a crime.

 

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Down under here in Australia the BK figures are readily available, but not in massive numbers. You'd have no problem in seeking one out here though.

They're $20 AUD in stores.

 

[Mr. Stagg]

There was a theory that the higher ups are intentionally stifling the distribution of Banjo figures because the Amiibo is on the way...

Now that sounds too good to be true but I have to hear more about this. This super sounds like a legit Nintendo move.

 

[LogFrog]

Congratulations to @LoggoFrog on winning this TOTAKU duo of Rare heroes! Keep an eye out in the new year, when we'll have more #WinWednesday goodness to share... https://t.co/2vTCmcuZEG

— Rare Ltd. (@RareLtd) December 20, 2018

I actually got my Totaku figures from Rare themselves in one of their raffles.

 

[MissingGlitch]

I didn't even realize those figures were out yet. I have never seen them in stores.

 

[Rigumaro]

Think I can ask you guys in the Banjo camp to RT?

@XboxP3 Hey Phil, can you do all of us a solid? If Banjo-Kazooie is NOT in the running for Smash DLC can you please just let us down easy now and save us the agony of not knowing, so we can all move on? I'm sure Rare is sick of being bothered about it too

— Monkey D. Lenny | Vtuber (@MonkeyDLenny) February 16, 2019

I'm not the type of person who BEGS for RT's or likes but I figure if this blows up it might get some kind of notice. Now, I know what you're thinking "Why would Phil actually say anything and reveal their plans?"

Because Frank O' Conner came out back in December and flat out deconfirmed that Master Chief was ever a consideration for Smash DLC. If there's no plans for the duo there shouldn't be any problem in saying so

The best second thing to happen after Banjo&Kazooie getting in Smash, would be Phil confirming they wont be in it, so we can just move on. If he doesn't answer, we should try again to make sure he sees it. I'll do RTs and likes as much as necessary.

 

[Lycan Rex]

The best second thing to happen after Banjo&Kazooie getting in Smash, would be Phil confirming they wont be in it, so we can just move on. If he doesn't answer, we should try again to make sure he sees it. I'll do RTs and likes as much as necessary.

I'm worried he is in smash, but not in the way we want. Wayfoward stayed quiet about shantae only for her to be a spirit.

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

I'm worried he is in smash, but not in the way we want. Wayfoward stayed quiet about shantae only for her to be a spirit.

I don’t think they’d make Banjo’s debut appearance in Smash, after being highly requested for nearly 2 decades, just be a spirit

 

[Lycan Rex]

I don’t think they’d make Banjo’s debut appearance in Smash, after being highly requested for nearly 2 decades, just be a spirit

Eh...geno, Isaac, bandana dee, shovel knight.

Granted those probably haven't been requested for as long. But I fear sakurai might go with Steve and add a banjo spirit, mii costume, assist trophy, ect. as a consolation prize. Hope not

Edit: don't forget Ridley stage hazard and k rool mii costume

 

[Deleted member]

Eh...geno, Isaac, bandana dee, shovel knight.

Granted those probably haven't been requested for as long. But I fear sakurai might go with banjo and add a Banjo fighter spirit, steve mii costume, Mumbo assist trophy, ect. as a consolation prize. Hope not

Edit: don't forget Ridley stage hazard and k rool mii costume

Fixed it for ya

 

[Organization XIII]

Platinum status means it hit 400k, it's not the same milestone as the Nintendo equivalent. And on the 360, that's not particularly impressive. I mean, Perfect Dark Zero and Kameo sold more. Even if it eventually hit some higher numbers under the discount the status gave it, it'd still be an uphill battle to get to the point where the company is itching for a follow-up.

Well, that's not entirely accurate to make Platinum status it has to hit an outstanding sales threshold within 9 months if that's 400K it could have hit that within in the first 3 and been eligible whereas the reason PDZ and Kameo aren't because they only exceeded that threshold after 9 months. Also should point out there is actually no official word on what amount of sales qualifies a title for Platinum status(at least that I can find). But whatever. It wasn't that it hit 400K the point was the game still did decently and there's nothing to suggest sales wise they'd be hesitant to make another game in the series. There is a lot pointing to other factors though.

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

Eh...geno, Isaac, bandana dee, shovel knight.

Granted those probably haven't been requested for as long. But I fear sakurai might go with Steve and add a banjo spirit, mii costume, assist trophy, ect. as a consolation prize. Hope not

Edit: don't forget Ridley stage hazard and k rool mii costume

Isaac was already an assist trophy in Brawl, before he had the support he has now. Bandana Dee has already appeared in smash in multiple shapes and forms. Shovel Knight getting in as an assist trophy itself is surprising and probably the most we should expect for an indie character. And Geno, while being long requested, is a very obscure character at the end of the day and already had a mii costume in smash 4.

Banjo is a very important part of Nintendo’s history who’s been highly requested since Melee and has never had any presence in Smash. I think the bottom line is, they know that finally including him after all these years only as a spirit would only create a massive amount of backlash. They might as well not even include him at all at that point

 

[GravelerChamp60]

Eh...geno, Isaac, bandana dee, shovel knight.

Granted those probably haven't been requested for as long. But I fear sakurai might go with Steve and add a banjo spirit, mii costume, assist trophy, ect. as a consolation prize. Hope not

Edit: don't forget Ridley stage hazard and k rool mii costume

Well to be fair Geno is almost impossible because he is held captive by Square Enix. Isaac my only guess is that he didn't stand a chance against the likes of all the newcomers in Ultimate. Bandana Dee might have Sakurai bias tied against his inclusion. Shovel Knight is probably the one that surprises me the most, but it could be that Sakurai doesn't want to open the floodgates of putting in Indy fighters yet.

Banjo on the other hand is the most popular third party rep that doesn't have as many restrictions as the others so it's only a matter of whether both companies are willing to let it happen.

 

[Lycan Rex]

Isaac was already an assist trophy in Brawl, before he had the support he has now. Bandana Dee has already appeared in smash in multiple shapes and forms. Shovel Knight getting in as an assist trophy itself is surprising and probably the most we should expect for an indie character. And Geno, while being long requested, is a very obscure character at the end of the day and already had a mii costume in smash 4.

Banjo is a very important part of Nintendo’s history who’s been highly requested since Melee and has never had any presence in Smash. I think the bottom line is, they know that finally including him after all these years only as a spirit would only create a massive amount of backlash. They might as well not even include him at all at that point

Fair point. Like I said before, I think sakurai will throw us a bone and give a least one fan favorite. And with so many on the chopping block, hopefully it's best boy and best girl.

Speaking of best girl...do you guys think kazooie will mostly stay in the pack, completely out of sight, and come out for certain attacks, and taunts? (like in their games)
Or will sakurai make it so she sticks her head out over banjo's shoulder most of the time to emphasize she's his partner and not an "accessory"?

 

[Mr. Stagg]

Speaking of best girl...do you guys think kazooie will mostly stay in the pack, completely out of sight, and come out for certain attacks, and taunts? (like in their games)
Or will sakurai make it so she sticks her head out over banjo's shoulder most of the time to emphasize she's his partner and not an "accessory"?

Kazooie is just as important as Banjo so she should stick out of the backpack as often as she can. Taunts and idle animations she should stick out, maybe pop out after a few seconds of idleness. My dream is to have a stage where various characters can chime in about a ln opposing enemy and talk with the short sounds like in their games. Jamjars could possibly comment on how good a soldier snake is. Mumbo could comment how his magic is better than Robin's.

Any other ideas?

 

[Justin Little]

Glad to see someone else who knows of the chap. I wonder if his GBA game will get a re-release on something, one of these days.

Ha, yeah, I was also making a reference to Tooie where he was frozen in ice. Maybe his game can be added in RARE Replay for Switch.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I do hope Banjo gets in Smash (and I think he will too), and I especially hope that Banjo-Kazooie gets either remade or even just ported to the Switch, since I haven't played it before

I highly recommend checking out Banjo-Kazooie and it's sequel Banjo-Tooie, they are the best platformers on the N64 next to Super Mario 64. Tooie is my favorite out of the two, but most people like the first game more.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

I never ever hear anyone talk about Grunty's Revenge but I ****ing adore that game.

 

[Deleted member]

I get the feeling that Microsoft is testing the waters with Banjo more than anything else. They´re not dumb, they know the mascot is beloved among 90s gamers, and they wanna earn goodwill from the gaming community after the catastrophe that was the Xbox One.

Also, it should be noted that current Rare is nothing like old Rare, even the staff is totally different. Similarly, the people working within Rare have changed. For as much as people like to throw shade a Microsoft for Nuts and Bolts, a lot of that also rests on Gregg Mayles´ shoulders. Simply put, the guy generally doesn't wanna work on a classic Banjo-like game anymore. Call it old age, call it getting jaded, whatever the case might be, IF a new Banjo game ever gets made, it most certainly won't get handled by Rare. That said, I personally place more weight on a remake of Kazooie and Tooie coming before a Threeie ever gets made if I'm perfectly honest. Doubly so if we consider how well the Crash Remakes did. It'd generally take less effort to make, it'd be less risky, and it would capitalize well on the nostalgia. Plus, you wouldn't have to worry about making sure the game is well designed since you'd just update what's already there into HD.


As for Banjo in Smash, out of any possible Microsoft-owned character, Banjo has the highest odds simply due to the fact that it's a personal wish for Phil Spencer himself:

I know I get questions all the time on would I ever like to see Banjo in Super Smash Bros. and I’m, like, “yes, I would do that in a second”. And certain people think I’m saying that as some sort of PR answer and I’m, like, “why wouldn’t you?”.”

https://www.ausgamers.com/features/read/3564591

Making that three times he's said he wants Banjo in Smash now.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I get the feeling that Microsoft is testing the waters with Banjo more than anything else. They´re not dumb, they know the mascot is beloved among 90s gamers, and they wanna earn goodwill from the gaming community after the catastrophe that was the Xbox One.

Also, it should be noted that current Rare is nothing like old Rare, even the staff is totally different. Similarly, the people working within Rare have changed. For as much as people like to throw shade a Microsoft for Nuts and Bolts, a lot of that also rests on Gregg Mayles´ shoulders. Simply put, the guy generally doesn't wanna work on a classic Banjo-like game anymore. Call it old age, call it getting jaded, whatever the case might be, IF a new Banjo game ever gets made, it most certainly won't get handled by Rare. That said, I personally place more weight on a remake of Kazooie and Tooie coming before a Threeie ever gets made if I'm perfectly honest. Doubly so if we consider how well the Crash Remakes did. It'd generally take less effort to make, it'd be less risky, and it would capitalize well on the nostalgia. Plus, you wouldn't have to worry about making sure the game is well designed since you'd just update what's already there into HD.


As for Banjo in Smash, out of any possible Microsoft-owned character, Banjo has the highest odds simply due to the fact that it's a personal wish for Phil Spencer himself:



https://www.ausgamers.com/features/read/3564591

Making that three times he's said he wants Banjo in Smash now.

Pretty good points. Even Spyro has done pretty well enough with his remakes that a Switch release is seemingly in the pipeline. And I'm a bit morbidly curious as to how Witchyworld would look like in these circumstances.

There's also the thing about some remaining people at Rare having wanted to do their own pirate game for the longest time (if the NES port of Pirates! and the cancelled Project Dream are any indication). Sometimes you sell your soul to accomplish what you want to do.

That being said, here's to hoping the third time is the charm in regards to Phil's stated intent.

I was also making a reference to Tooie where he was frozen in ice.

Called it.

I didn't even realize those figures were out yet. I have never seen them in stores.

I did. Granted, I do have access to a shopping mall...

 

[Cap'n Jack]

A lot of people forget, Phil wants Banjo in Smash, like actively, not just that he’d allow it to happen. The previous post has a great point on that.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

if they were to ever “do a SEGA”, Microsoft would surely be the partner of choice

I like the way this man thinks.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

That is going to be one ****ing hard amiibo to get. I like you guys but don't expect me to play fair when that amiibo goes up for pre-order.

**** it's going to disappear like one millisecond after the pre-orders go up.

I never ever hear anyone talk about Grunty's Revenge but I ****ing adore that game.

I still haven't played Grunty's Revenge yet. I need to get around to playing it some time.

Edit: What in the world?! How did I reply to MissingGlitch after leaving the page? Oh... I see now.

 

[Mr. Stagg]

A lot of people forget, Phil wants Banjo in Smash, like actively, not just that he’d allow it to happen. The previous post has a great point on that.

It should also be mentioned that during the Battletoads interview that Phil brought up Banjo for Smash brothers all on his own accord. He was not asked about it, he mentioned his willingness and intentions without being prompted to. I highly doubt that Phil would've made those statements if he knew it was impossible.

 

[Swop]

Yup, its fair game everyone, as soon as that Pre-order for a Banjo amiibo goes up, your damn right im gonna be camping for 2 of them

 

[Cap'n Jack]

It just really seems like the next announced SLC will be Banjo in March

 

[Opossum]

At this point, there is no reason not to include western 3rd party characters in Smash. Almost all the big Japanese names are in Smash, and almost anybody left that isn't in yet that's on their level is western:

Banjo & Kazooie
Crash Bandicoot
Spyro
Rayman
Master Chief
Steve
Lora Croft (Even though she is owned by Square-Enix, she is a western character in origin just like , , and .)
Kratos
Ezio Auditore

Hmm... who else am I missing?



I would love to get Goemon, Banjo & Kazooie, Dixie Kong, and Porky in the Season Pass. But if we just get Banjo, I'm calling it a day because I already got and so just one more of my wants, notably Goemon or Banjo & Kazooie would satisfied me completely for the roster for this game.

For western ones you're missing, I'd say certain other Sony characters like Nathan Drake or Ratchet and Clank, as well as others like Chell due to how influential Portal was/is, Steve, the Dragonborn, and Tracer for a more modern icon.

For Japanese ones, the big franchises I can think of that are missing are Resident Evil, Monster Hunter, Tekken, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts (the opposite of Lara's situation: owned by a western company, developed by a Japanese company), and Ninja Gaiden (less of a big name in general, but has huge history with Nintendo) and Frogger let me dream.

I've undoubtedly forgotten several for both categories, but that was just off the top of my head.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

For western ones you're missing, I'd say certain other Sony characters like Nathan Drake or Ratchet and Clank, as well as others like Chell due to how influential Portal was/is, Steve, the Dragonborn, and Tracer for a more modern icon.

For Japanese ones, the big franchises I can think of that are missing are Resident Evil, Monster Hunter, Tekken, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts (the opposite of Lara's situation: owned by a western company, developed by a Japanese company), and Ninja Gaiden (less of a big name in general, but has huge history with Nintendo) and Frogger let me dream.

I've undoubtedly forgotten several for both categories, but that was just off the top of my head.

Retro already mentioned Steve.

It just really seems like the next announced SLC will be Banjo in March

Honestly, I'm not expecting anything to happen until April at the earliest, given how there's already Nintendo stuff set to release next month, so I'm not sure they'll feel the need to announce anything.

 

[Opossum]

Retro already mentioned Steve.



Honestly, I'm not expecting anything to happen until April at the earliest, given how there's already Nintendo stuff set to release next month, so I'm not sure they'll feel the need to announce anything.

Reading is very hard.

 

[Graizen]

What you guys think about this: http://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/451292168

People said this has crediblity.

Can someone explain this to me?