Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

[TheBeastHimself]

I’d love to see Conker but I just can’t picture them wanting to put him in. It’s one thing for Snake and Bayonetta to have guns and stuff, but I doubt they’d want a drunken pissing pooping swearing character running around. Definitely could see him make it as a Mii costume though

Nah my man Conker doesn't need any alcohol or swearing. He's got plenty o' T-rated moves that'd fit just fine without ruining his character. I mean you only do get drunk and piss on people twice, so it's not like an integral part of his character. And Conker's cursing is kept to a minimum as well. It's everyone that surrounds Conker that's really inappropriate. If Conker can appear perfectly in-character in a T-rated game (Project Spark) without having to drink and curse, then he can make it into Smash a-okay as well.

Either way, I'm here to support the bear, bird, and squirrel.

 

[Deleted member]

Nintendo, since Joker was never around for the ballot.



Just to make sure, how recent is that statement?

November

 

[MissingGlitch]

Erdrick and Joker are Nintendo picks. Banjo and Geno are Fan picks.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

November

Hmm, then I'm not sure how much water it holds, since no one knows the DLC.

 

[MissingGlitch]

Hmm, then I'm not sure how much water it holds, since no one knows the DLC.

I love how its a good mix of "no one knows the DLC" and "We've know it was Erdrick and Steve since last August"

 

[Justin Little]

I would love it if Conker got in. Bad Fur Day is my favorite game of all time, and I think he isn't nearly as M rated as Bayonetta is.

Plus, Diddy Kong Racing reunion, nuff said.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

You're missing Conker!

I'm sorry about that. How could I forget Conker though, seriously.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

Think I can ask you guys in the Banjo camp to RT?

There was a problem fetching the tweet

I'm not the type of person who BEGS for RT's or likes but I figure if this blows up it might get some kind of notice. Now, I know what you're thinking "Why would Phil actually say anything and reveal their plans?"

Because Frank O' Conner came out back in December and flat out deconfirmed that Master Chief was ever a consideration for Smash DLC. If there's no plans for the duo there shouldn't be any problem in saying so

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I really wish I was someone who wanted those two like so many others. Must be really nice to get people you're excited for lol

I've wanted and since Melee. It's was a dream come true for me when I saw those two finally got in because they were my two most wanted characters for 17 years.

 

[Violante]

On that subject, I found this golden oldie:

 

[Deleted member]

"We've know it was Erdrick and Steve since last August"

That’s fishy right there compare that to what sakurai said about jokers status after the game awards announcement

 

[TheAnvil]

Rare: "Look at our amazing history of games with this compilation. 30 awesome games for $30, what a legacy!"

Also Rare: "Nobody wants our old games anymore. Go play Hat in Time"

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Rare: "Look at our amazing history of games with this compilation. 30 awesome games for $30, what a legacy!"

Also Rare: "Nobody wants our old games anymore. Go play Hat in Time"

That's so true. But it's up to Phil Spencer and Nintendo if Banjo & Kazooie get into Smash, not Rare.

 

[LogFrog]

I kinda had a theory that Rare’s 2018 Christmas card might be hinting at their 2019/2020 lineup as they posted it on their twitter. Rash from Battletoads is in the clouds along with Banjo and Conker and we already know that a new Battletoads game is on the way this year. Maybe they’ll finally have new games for Banjo and Conker at E3, but who knows honestly. All of this could just be wishful thinking.

As for what Chris Marlow said regarding Banjo, it could be just Rare being cheeky or them being actually pissed off at the constant demands for a new Banjo game everytime they post something on twitter. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure Rare said they wouldn’t remake Banjo; however, they didn’t say they wouldn’t make a brand new one.

 

[N3ON]

You guys, that reason is obviously bs. Rare would be fine making a new Banjo if MS thought it a profitable venture. At this juncture, they don't.

It's like when Nintendo says they don't make F-Zero because they can't come up with new innovations, yet they made twenty NSMB games. It just comes down to profitability.

 

[Justin Little]

Sabreman is on that picture as well, but he is buried in the snow so you can't see him.

 

[JonSmash]

Sure I would support conker after banjo gets in & if banjo sells well & we show enuff support it might happen BUT 1st we need to come up with a moveset & have some draw it to show he could work

I'll take a crack at it

A jabs :Slaps with hand & finishes with a frying pan final blow

Smash attacks : attacks uses baseball bat

up smash: conker gets an idea ! a lightbulb apears abouve his head

down smash: spins around with flame thrower aimd at ground

Nutral air: dose a standerd spin attack but with a slowmo effect & sound effect like in the heist if some one gets his by it they too will be in slowmo but its only for a seconed or half a seconed for conker & for the opponet

F air & back air : sling shot like villager/issabelle

Down air: turns into an anvil & smashes down to the ground

Up air: truns into a bat upsidedown & farts (in his game he poops BUT if wario can fart so can conker)

B move: cross bow

side B move : trows a HUGE roll of toilet papper that will roll over people & burry them it shrinks as it rolls & if you stand on the paper you can trip

Down B move : throws cartoonish TNT that will blow up after fuse runs out or press down B again to use plunger to detonate it

Up B move : tail spin

FINAL SMASH ! the yellow robot at the end of the game maybe ?

special ability ! gass mask conker is immune to poison & gass based attacks when hit by those attacks his gass mask will apear on his face for a bit showing he is immune to the effects but can still have hitstun & knockback

these are just moves from bad fur day maybe some moves from pockett tails could work like maybe conker can run on all 4s like a real squirrle

 

[Organization XIII]

You guys, that reason is obviously bs. Rare would be fine making a new Banjo if MS thought it a profitable venture. At this juncture, they don't.

It's like when Nintendo says they don't make F-Zero because they can't come up with new innovations, yet they made twenty NSMB games. It just comes down to profitability.

I highly doubt it's so clear cut as "it won't make money" for either series. Especially in Banjo's case. Even with as much mixed reception as Yooka Laylee got it sold very well and Mario Odyssey shows 3D platformers can still make tons of money. If it really were to come down to one factor it would be Rare has no intention of using their older IPs at the moment. Which since most of the old guard is gone, their old IPs that are coming back aren't handled by them, and they are still working on Empty Seas makes far more sense.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I highly doubt it's so clear cut as "it won't make money" for either series. Especially in Banjo's case. Even with as much mixed reception as Yooka Laylee got it sold very well and Mario Odyssey shows 3D platformers can still make tons of money. If it really were to come down to one factor it would be Rare has no intention of using their older IPs at the moment. Which since most of the old guard is gone and they are still working on Empty Seas makes far more sense.

I think a certain team or the original team is important for continuing a franchise or keep it going constantly.

 

[N3ON]

I highly doubt it's so clear cut as "it won't make money" for either series. Especially in Banjo's case. Even with as much mixed reception as Yooka Laylee got it sold very well and Mario Odyssey shows 3D platformers can still make tons of money. If it really were to come down to one factor it would be Rare has no intention of using their older IPs at the moment. Which since most of the old guard is gone and they are still working on Empty Seas makes far more sense.

If it was a highly profitable IP they'd insist on someone handling it, even if the original devs no longer were at the helm, just as is the case with Halo, Gears, Crackdown and (potentially) Fable. MS owns the series, and if Rare legitimately didn't want to make it (which seems dubious to me), or MS found them incapable, they wouldn't just leave money on the table like that. Plus, they've loaned out Rare's IP before.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I really wish I was someone who wanted those two like so many others. Must be really nice to get people you're excited for lol

This happens for me at least once per game. :insert Joker icon here:

On that subject, I found this golden oldie:

Would be nice to have that game on Switch someday.

Rare: "Look at our amazing history of games with this compilation. 30 awesome games for $30, what a legacy!"

Also Rare: "Nobody wants our old games anymore. Go play Hat in Time"

Methinks they're out of touch like Cranky is.

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

Clearly Microsoft see's potential in Banjo-Kazooie they are merchandising the character after a decade so they see the potential the franchise has. No doubt they see the countless requests for them to be in Smash and just come back in general. I'm confident we will see something of Banjo-Kazooie come up sooner than later..

If MS really is having any discussions with Nintendo there's no doubt in my mind that the Banjo-Kazooie and by extension other older Rare IPs are coming up in the conversation. Nintendo loves nostalgia and can see the potential of having an old Rare game they no longer have ownership over re-appearing on a Nintendo platform after all these years. I wouldn't even be shocked if MS handed off some Rare IPs to smaller Devs to make games or remasters that are planded to show up on Switch under MS's Co-publishing. Rare doesn't even need to be involved anymore Killer Instinct is evidence of this, they only need a credit and that's it.

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

I kinda had a theory that Rare’s 2018 Christmas card might be hinting at their 2019/2020 lineup as they posted it on their twitter. Rash from Battletoads is in the clouds along with Banjo and Conker and we already know that a new Battletoads game is on the way this year. Maybe they’ll finally have new games for Banjo and Conker at E3, but who knows honestly. All of this could just be wishful thinking.

As for what Chris Marlow said regarding Banjo, it could be just Rare being cheeky or them being actually pissed off at the constant demands for a new Banjo game everytime they post something on twitter. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure Rare said they wouldn’t remake Banjo; however, they didn’t say they wouldn’t make a brand new one.

Maybe their plans are the new Battletoads game, Banjo in Smash/N64 Classic, and something else for Conker?

 

[UnknownJ25]

Hey I know I'm always coming here with my Conker nonsense, but I just wanted to ask you guys this. If Banjo gets in, would anyone be willing to support him? Banjo and Conker are both stagnant franchises and their futures are uncertain, I think it's best we stick together. I mean the franchises themselves are even sticking together now-a-days:

Count me in. Rare brothers till the end

 

[N3ON]

I think a certain team or the original team is important for continuing a franchise or keep it going constantly.

I mean... not in the case of most of MS's other notable IPs.

Clearly Microsoft see's potential in Banjo-Kazooie they are merchandising the character after a decade so they see the potential the franchise has. No doubt they see the countless requests for them to be in Smash and just come back in general. I'm confident we will see something of Banjo-Kazooie come up sooner than later..

Merchandising is an entirely different ballgame. Look at Castlevania, Mega Man, Bomberman, the FF7 cast, even Metroid. During all those droughts, the merchandising did not stop. It's investing on a totally different level.

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

I mean... not in the case of most of MS's other notable IPs.


Merchandising is an entirely different ballgame. Look at Castlevania, Mega Man, Bomberman, the FF7 cast, even Metroid. During all those droughts, the merchandising did not stop. It's investing on a totally different level.

It’s notable for Banjo though. When’s the last time we ever saw any Banjo merch before last year?

 

[N3ON]

It’s notable for Banjo though. When’s the last time we ever saw any Banjo merch before last year?

My point is exactly that just because a company sees potential in merchandising doesn't mean they see potential in creating new titles.

Are you anticipating a new Conker game?

 

[Organization XIII]

If it was a highly profitable IP they'd insist on someone handling it, even if the original devs no longer were at the helm, just as is the case with Halo, Gears, Crackdown and (potentially) Fable. MS owns the series, and if Rare legitimately didn't want to make it (which seems dubious to me), or MS found them incapable, they wouldn't just leave money on the table like that. Plus, they've loaned out Rare's IP before.

Well, even Nuts and Bolts was a platinum game for the 360 so even at Banjo's worst under the system it has always been profitable. Right now there's no drive from Rare to make a sequel and likely no company has made a pitch to Xbox to use the IP. If Microsoft wanted the series to continue yes they could indeed find someone to handle it but it's not that there's no potential profit in it. That's far more dubious.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Sabreman is on that picture as well, but he is buried in the snow so you can't see him.

Glad to see someone else who knows of the chap. I wonder if his GBA game will get a re-release on something, one of these days.

My point is exactly that just because a company sees potential in merchandising doesn't mean they see potential in creating new titles.

Sadly, that was the case for a certain other misused mascot a few years back.

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

My point is exactly that just because a company sees potential in merchandising doesn't mean they see potential in creating new titles.

Are you anticipating a new Conker game?

Don’t you think they look at merchandising results as a way to determine the series’ future? Metroid is getting a new game, Mega Man got a new game, Bomberman got a new game. All because I’m assuming their merchandise numbers were good enough to warrant new entries in their series.

 

[GravelerChamp60]

Well thinking about it more, I don't think Banjo's chances are hurt in anyway. Indie Chick's tweet says specifically that Nintendo is the one who approached Rare for content so if what she is saying is accurate then we have nothing to worry about.

 

[N3ON]

Well, even Nuts and Bolts was a platinum game for the 360 so even at Banjo's worst under the system it has always been profitable. Right now there's no drive from Rare to make a sequel and likely no company has made a pitch to Xbox to use the IP. If Microsoft wanted the series to continue yes they could indeed find someone to handle it but it's not that there's no potential profit in it. That's far more dubious.

Platinum status means it hit 400k, it's not the same milestone as the Nintendo equivalent. And on the 360, that's not particularly impressive. I mean, Perfect Dark Zero and Kameo sold more. Even if it eventually hit some higher numbers under the discount the status gave it, it'd still be an uphill battle to get to the point where the company is itching for a follow-up.

Also I didn't say there was no potential profit, the potential is always there. I'm positing that, for whatever reason, MS believes it won't achieve that potential.

Sadly, that was the case for a certain other misused mascot a few years back.

Exactly.

Don’t you think they look at merchandising results as a way to determine the series’ future? Metroid is getting a new game, Mega Man got a new game, Bomberman got a new game. All because I’m assuming their merchandise numbers were good enough to warrant new entries in their series.

Those are very false correlations, especially when the manufacturer handles the brunt of the costs and usually is the one to purchase the license. The impetus is rarely from the IP holder, so you're gauging intentions based on the wrong party.

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

Platinum status means it hit 400k, it's not the same milestone as the Nintendo equivalent. And on the 360, that's not particularly impressive. I mean, Perfect Dark Zero and Kameo sold more. Even if it eventually hit some higher numbers under the discount the status gave it, it'd still be an uphill battle to get to the point where the company is itching for a follow-up.

Also I didn't say there was no potential profit, the potential is always there. I'm positing that, for whatever reason, MS believes it won't achieve that potential.

Exactly.


Those are very false correlations, especially when the manufacturer handles the brunt of the costs and usually is the one to purchase the license. The impetus is rarely from the IP holder, so you're gauging intentions based on the wrong party.

You’re missing the point. If the merch performs well, AKA they see that there’s an obvious interest in the IP, don’t you think they look at that? If they see that there’s a distinct interest in their IP why wouldn’t they want to pursue the opportunity to profit off of it further?

 

[Cap'n Jack]

I honestly think Banjo is not profitable to the market that purchase XBOX and Phil knows, however to the Nintendo market, Banjo use to be an All-Star in one of the biggest financial hits for the N64

 

[Zipzter]

Sure I would support conker after banjo gets in & if banjo sells well & we show enuff support it might happen BUT 1st we need to come up with a moveset & have some draw it to show he could work

I'll take a crack at it

A jabs :Slaps with hand & finishes with a frying pan final blow

Smash attacks : attacks uses baseball bat

up smash: conker gets an idea ! a lightbulb apears abouve his head

down smash: spins around with flame thrower aimd at ground

Nutral air: dose a standerd spin attack but with a slowmo effect & sound effect like in the heist if some one gets his by it they too will be in slowmo but its only for a seconed or half a seconed for conker & for the opponet

F air & back air : sling shot like villager/issabelle

Down air: turns into an anvil & smashes down to the ground

Up air: truns into a bat upsidedown & farts (in his game he poops BUT if wario can fart so can conker)

B move: cross bow

side B move : trows a HUGE roll of toilet papper that will roll over people & burry them it shrinks as it rolls & if you stand on the paper you can trip

Down B move : throws cartoonish TNT that will blow up after fuse runs out or press down B again to use plunger to detonate it

Up B move : tail spin

FINAL SMASH ! the yellow robot at the end of the game maybe ?

special ability ! gass mask conker is immune to poison & gass based attacks when hit by those attacks his gass mask will apear on his face for a bit showing he is immune to the effects but can still have hitstun & knockback

these are just moves from bad fur day maybe some moves from pockett tails could work like maybe conker can run on all 4s like a real squirrle

I made a Conker moveset that I posted here, but was told to post it in a Conker thread. May I bring it back? :3

 

[Zipzter]

I honestly think Banjo is not profitable to the market that purchase XBOX and Phil knows, however to the Nintendo market, Banjo use to be an All-Star in one of the biggest financial hits for the N64

Now THIS is a fair point! 2010+ Xbox isn't an adventure-platform console, and has -2010 Xbox ever really been? They had their share back when it was wildly popular, but because of the greater graphics, it's been largely more realistic games.

 

[MissingGlitch]

Even if there is no game planned. I'm sure a smash appearance will kick start a production of one

 

[TheZoologist]

Even if there is no game planned. I'm sure a smash appearance will kick start a production of one

It helped Mega Man get a new game eight years later after the last official installment and brought Cloud's introductory game that never made it onto a Nintendo console before finally make it on the Switch! It would hopefully absolutely bring Banjo & Kazooie back into the spotlight with either a remaster or a new sequel. One of the numerous reasons why Banjo & Kazooie should be in Smash.

 

[Deleted member]

I do hope Banjo gets in Smash (and I think he will too), and I especially hope that Banjo-Kazooie gets either remade or even just ported to the Switch, since I haven't played it before

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Imagine the first two games also being ported to the Switch due to a deal between Nintendo and Microsoft.