Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

[TheAnvil]

My point exactly. And like I said, I have a hard time believing it was just a mistake when it’s never “accidentally” happened in any other Smash game. Why suddenly now, in a time where a Rare character is extremely highly requested?

Banjo has been one of the highest requests for 20 years, people are just being slightly louder than before now because his competition (Ridley/K. Rool/Megaman) have all already been included and Nintendo have an official working relationship with Microsoft so it seems like an obtainable goal.

I find it very hard to believe that they'd accidently include rare spirits from JFG and Blast Corps. Firstly, because both were just included in Rare Replay a couple years ago and secondly because there's never been any confusion over who owns what. It'd be a bit different if someone found some Diddy Kong Racing spirits in Smash, I could see how a Nintendo employee would get confused and think that Wizpig or Timber is under Nintendo ownership.

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

I'm not sure we'll ever know what the Rare spirits were about unless they end up being DLC. I'm almost positive Nintendo will never ever say "Just to clarify the results found by illegal datamining, we thought be owned these Rare games but we totally didn't, lol, and we decided to leave the text references to be found by hex editors!"

So yeah, unless they end up being DLC, we'll never know what their deal was.

At the very least, I feel like they’d remove them completely from the game now that it’s public knowledge if they were only there by mistake. If they were accidentally there without Rare/Microsoft’s permission and it’s out in the public, I’m sure that’s not a good look for Nintendo

 

[Deleted member]

I just wanna mention at this point that out of all the characters that i wanted or im interesed, Banjo is the only one im rooting for now. Everybody else has been confirmed (K.Rool, Simon, Ridley) Decomfirmed (Shadow, Isaac, Waluigi) or are in Spirit Limbo (Bandanna Dee, Paper Mario, Geno) which i consider a "Soft" decomfirm until proven otherwise. That Spirit datamine is a small glimmer of hope for me, but it's not conclusive enough for me to say "Oh yeah, he's coming".

 

[PK-remling Fire]

As much as I want the Rare spirits to hint to something more, it might very well just be some data that was left unused. Smash Bros does have a history of keeping unused data in their games.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Instead of the Forbidden Seven would this be the forbidden...Two?

In any case we're still completely in the dark about anything, if one ignores all the hoopla over Brave.

 

[EpicElliot]

Been a long time banjo buddys

I was waiting to film my reaction during the game awards just incase we got a smash revile (witch I didn't think was gunna happen)
it was getting late near midnight & I hade to go pick up my aunt to go get are midnight release of smash ultimate.
so I head over to her house & when I get there my other aunt is freaking out screaming "I heard him scream OH MY GOD ! go check on him he might be hurt" so I go to check on my cousin who IS SCREAMING & FLIPPING HIS **** ! & says joker is in smash ! & I'm like WHAT!?!?!?

turns out I missed the revile by like a minute ! & didn't get my reaction (wish I got my cousin's reaction tho GOLD)

I never played persona (had friends in highschool obsessed with persona 4 tho ) & my cousin almost or did 100% P5 so he said I could barrow it one day to try it out

over all seams like a cool character & no one saw it coming especially when the stars fell into place for a banjo revile AGAIN lol

can't wait to see what he plays like

 

[volbound1700]

The Brave metrics reminded me a little of Sora. I can see Sora being "brave" based on how he moved. Still it is wide open.

 

[MissingGlitch]

I know I am letting my guard down on this. But it's kinda scary how perfect Brave's stats fit Banjo. The rare spirits being found adds more credibility and an awful lot of ballot picks have been added. If Banjo isn't added as DLC I will be flabbergasted.

ESPECIALLY if it's Steve instead.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I know I am letting my guard down on this. But it's kinda scary how perfect Brave's stats fit Banjo. The rare spirits being found adds more credibility and an awful lot of ballot picks have been added. If Banjo isn't added as DLC I will be flabbergasted.

OMG don't give me false hope please! I don't need to end up disappointed.

 

[MissingGlitch]

OMG don't give me false hope please! I don't need to end up disappointed.

Think about it. Sakurai said he had no work done on Joker when he was asked to reveal Joker at the game awards. So isn't it kinda suspicious how we have another character in the game files that has been worked on? If we take into consideration Joker wasn't the first one to be worked on. Who was the first one to be worked on? Probably brave. Maybe brave was supposed to be shown off at the game awards. And you know who else was at the game awards? Microsoft. So basically my theory is
1. Brave was being worked on first
2. Brave was supposed to be announced first
3. Brave stats match Banjo almost perfectly
4. Brave is supposed to be Banjo

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Think about it. Sakurai said he had no work done on Joker when he was asked to reveal Joker at the game awards. So isn't it kinda suspicious how we have another character in the game files that has been worked on? If we take into consideration Joker wasn't the first one to be worked on. Who was the first one to be worked on? Probably brave. Maybe brave was supposed to be shown off at the game awards. And you know who else was at the game awards? Microsoft

I mean people thought that Isaac (Rathalos picture, herb item, absence of assist trophy), Skull Kid (Chairs and pillows, moon assist and absence of assist trophy) and Shadow (Knuckles being shown and absence of assist trophy) were locks due to supporting evidence and look how that turned out...

 

[MissingGlitch]

I mean people thought that Isaac (Rathalos picture, herb item, absence of assist trophy), Skull Kid (Chairs and pillows, moon assist and absence of assist trophy) and Shadow (Knuckles being shown and absence of assist trophy) were locks due to supporting evidence and look how that turned out...

Yeah I wouldn't necessarily say I have evidence for my claims. But it is just a theory based around circumstances. Oh yeah, I also forgot to mention that the CEO of Xbox said he had a meeting with Nintendo at E3. I wonder for what? Nothing has come out about that meeting yet. And If I am right about Brave being supposed to be shown off first at an event that Microsoft was also attending...

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Yeah I wouldn't necessarily say I have evidence for my claims. But it is just a theory based around circumstances. Oh yeah, I also forgot to mention that the CEO of Xbox said he had a meeting with Nintendo at E3. I wonder for what? Nothing has come out about that meeting yet. And I am right about Brave being supposed to be shown off first at an event that Microsoft was also attending...

Orrrr its probably just a coincidence and simply something else. Ever thought about that?

You're looking too deep into this honestly and those three shows we should had learned from it.

 

[MissingGlitch]

Orrrr its probably just a coincidence and simply something else. Ever thought about that?

Well this is the Banjo speculation thread. So that's what I am doing lol

 

[JoyStar]

I mean people thought that Isaac (Rathalos picture, herb item, absence of assist trophy), Skull Kid (Chairs and pillows, moon assist and absence of assist trophy) and Shadow (Knuckles being shown and absence of assist trophy) were locks due to supporting evidence and look how that turned out...

At least Skull Kid and Isaac got Mii Costumes and Skull Kid's looks just like him so I'm happy for that. Plus that means they could easily add him since a 3D model seems to be the brunt of the work. Real bummer that they weren't officially playable though yet.

 

[shocktarts17]

At the very least, I feel like they’d remove them completely from the game now that it’s public knowledge if they were only there by mistake. If they were accidentally there without Rare/Microsoft’s permission and it’s out in the public, I’m sure that’s not a good look for Nintendo

But it's not "in the game", it's barely in the code. Outside of the very small community of people who follow that kind of information it's definitely not "public knowledge" in the sense that the larger Smash community has any idea. The fact of the matter is that most likely this small error is so insignificant that it's there because the developers just don't care, it's not worth taking the time to patch it out because it shouldn't matter at all. If it were any other game, or a game that shared a different developer people wouldn't care (based on the fact that no one cares that Devil's Third is also there).

I'm not trying to be a killjoy or anything, I think Banjo has a great shot at the DLC I just don't think you should be trying to look for conspiracy theories to prove that.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Banjo has been one of the highest requests for 20 years, people are just being slightly louder than before now because his competition (Ridley/K. Rool/Megaman) have all already been included and Nintendo have an official working relationship with Microsoft so it seems like an obtainable goal.

I find it very hard to believe that they'd accidently include rare spirits from JFG and Blast Corps. Firstly, because both were just included in Rare Replay a couple years ago and secondly because there's never been any confusion over who owns what. It'd be a bit different if someone found some Diddy Kong Racing spirits in Smash, I could see how a Nintendo employee would get confused and think that Wizpig or Timber is under Nintendo ownership.

So you don't consider (Steve/Crash/Rayman/Battletoads) as competition for Banjo & Kazooie? Because in my opinion, if we get one of those four before Banjo & Kazooie, his chances will really drop.

Think about it. Sakurai said he had no work done on Joker when he was asked to reveal Joker at the game awards. So isn't it kinda suspicious how we have another character in the game files that has been worked on? If we take into consideration Joker wasn't the first one to be worked on. Who was the first one to be worked on? Probably brave. Maybe brave was supposed to be shown off at the game awards. And you know who else was at the game awards? Microsoft. So basically my theory is
1. Brave was being worked on first
2. Brave was supposed to be announced first
3. Brave stats match Banjo almost perfectly
4. Brave is supposed to be Banjo

I really hope it is Banjo & Kazooie, but I doubt it. Also, wouldn't Banjo & Kazooie be the same height as Mario or a little taller? Brave is shorter than Mario after all, so that would lean me to think it's not Banjo & Kazooie because of that.

 

[MissingGlitch]

I really hope it is Banjo & Kazooie, but I doubt it. Also, wouldn't Banjo & Kazooie be the same height as Mario or a little taller? Brave is shorter than Mario after all, so that would lean me to think it's not Banjo & Kazooie because of that.

Well. I've never considered Banjo that big of a bear. I mean, Kazooie is about as big as Banjo is.

 

[JonSmash]

well acording to diddy kong racing banjo is just a bit taller then diddy kong so he would be around mario hight

 

[MissingGlitch]

well acording to diddy kong racing banjo is just a bit taller then diddy kong so he would be around mario hight

I really don't consider this an accurate representation of Banjo to be completely honest with you.

Linking it because for some reason embedding isn't working for this image on mobile: https://i.imgur.com/F06y4hi.png

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Well. I've never considered Banjo that big of a bear. I mean, Kazooie is about as big as Banjo is.

I think them being a duo would make them heavier and slightly taller than Mario in height as a full fledged character if you know what I mean.

 

[Megadoomer]

I don't think Brave is Banjo for a variety of reasons, but I still hope that Banjo and Kazooie make it into Smash. I don't know how likely it is, but between Nintendo and Microsoft cooperating (Microsoft characters as Minecraft DLC on Nintendo consoles, crossplay) and the leftover data for Blast Corps. and Jet Force Gemini content (maybe they weren't aware that Microsoft owned those franchises, but it seems like some oddly specific references), I have some hope.

Banjo-Kazooie was the first Nintendo 64 game that I played - when we got our N64, it came with Banjo-Kazooie and Ocarina of Time, and it really says something that my brother and I got much more playtime out of B-K. If we got Banjo and Kazooie, then I'd have no complaints about anything else that we get out of the fighter's pass, even if it's nothing but characters that I don't want or have no familiarity with.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I don't think Brave is Banjo for a variety of reasons, but I still hope that Banjo and Kazooie make it into Smash. I don't know how likely it is, but between Nintendo and Microsoft cooperating (Microsoft characters as Minecraft DLC on Nintendo consoles, crossplay) and the leftover data for Blast Corps. and Jet Force Gemini content (maybe they weren't aware that Microsoft owned those franchises, but it seems like some oddly specific references), I have some hope.

Banjo-Kazooie was the first Nintendo 64 game that I played - when we got our N64, it came with Banjo-Kazooie and Ocarina of Time, and it really says something that my brother and I got much more playtime out of B-K. If we got Banjo and Kazooie, then I'd have no complaints about anything else that we get out of the fighter's pass, even if it's nothing but characters that I don't want or have no familiarity with.

I really want Goemon and Porky. But if I can get Banjo & Kazooie, I'll be completely satisfied with the DLC because I will have 3 out of the 8 of my most wanted characters confirmed in Ultimate. The others that are already confirmed are and .

 

[Luigifan18]

Wait, why would Brave be Banjo? Courage isn't really a major theme of his series.

 

[MissingGlitch]

Banjo is the character for me to where if we get him. They can make the rest of the fighter pass be Steve, Dragon Quest, and a Fire Emblem rep and I wouldn't mind one bit.

 

[fleshdude.gov]

ignore this I'm an idiot

 

[Luigifan18]

I actually have an answer to that that I think a lot of people have been ignoring the possibility of.

Namely, that the codename "Brave" is referring to their status as a character developed and owned by Americans, because America is the "land of the free, home of the Brave."

Rareware is British, though...

 

[fleshdude.gov]

Rareware is British, though...

Microsoft is American, though.

 

[MissingGlitch]

Rareware is British, though...

Man why isn't embedding working for me.

 

[ryuu seika]

Microsoft is American, though.

Microsoft isn't Banjo's home, though.

 

[shocktarts17]

Microsoft isn't Banjo's home, though.

Yeah, his home is in our hearts.

 

[ryuu seika]

Yeah, his home is in our hearts.

Home of our beloved heroes but, unfortunately, not specifically the brave.

 

[MissingGlitch]

Fine fine. Banjo isn't brave. Geno is Brave and Banjo is coming directly after him.

 

[ryuu seika]

Yeah. Me having no confidence in him being the next DLC character doesn't mean that I don't still hold hope for him being on the list. Banjo deserves this more than anyone and, with the traction he gained in the run up to the game's release, I think it's safe to say that he'd bring the excitement, too.

 

[Mr. Stagg]

https://mobile.twitter.com/PushDustIn/status/1087124989239734272

Some possible good news here. This confirms from a recent Sakurai interview that the big newcomers were decided by the ballot. Nintendo is good at keeping their ear to the ground and based on the reception of Riddles, K.Rool, and the Belmonts I am confident it will influence the DLC too.

 

[MissingGlitch]

https://mobile.twitter.com/PushDustIn/status/1087124989239734272

Some possible good news here. This confirms from a recent Sakurai interview that the big newcomers were decided by the ballot. Nintendo is good at keeping their ear to the ground and based on the reception of Riddles, K.Rool, and the Belmonts I am confident it will influence the DLC too.

Optimistic me says Nintendo looked at the ballot and made their list based off that. Pessimistic me says they made the list based off upcoming releases to promote them.

 

[Ovaltine]

https://mobile.twitter.com/PushDustIn/status/1087124989239734272

Some possible good news here. This confirms from a recent Sakurai interview that the big newcomers were decided by the ballot. Nintendo is good at keeping their ear to the ground and based on the reception of Riddles, K.Rool, and the Belmonts I am confident it will influence the DLC too.

I very nearly read that as Piddles, and I was imagining a timeline where Nuts & Bolts' Piddles got into Smash before the actual dynamic duo.

... That is a very scary timeline.

 

[dlewis53]

https://mobile.twitter.com/PushDustIn/status/1087124989239734272

Some possible good news here. This confirms from a recent Sakurai interview that the big newcomers were decided by the ballot. Nintendo is good at keeping their ear to the ground and based on the reception of Riddles, K.Rool, and the Belmonts I am confident it will influence the DLC too.

That's pretty awesome! It demonstrates even more that the fans themselves were the ones to finally get their requested characters in Smash Ultimate. Now hopefully the same will happen with Banjo-Kazooie.

 

[Don_102]

So give it to me straight bros, does he actually have a decent shot?

 

[MissingGlitch]

So give it to me straight bros, does he actually have a decent shot?

We really like to think so! The odds are looking pretty good this time around.