Banjo-Kazooie Mafia: Grunty's Back! Game Over! Did Grunty win in the end?

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

It is inherently bad because Rake could be mafia. If Mafia has thread control, Mafia wins.

Shun Goku Satsu Rake I'll ask again. Read on Orbo?

slight town lean on orbo. Him not contesting bardull doesnt overly concern me. Still null on moosy like i said in my big post

 

[Zaixl]

Rake: Obviously trying to feel out the newbies. First post was aimed at the people who confirmed in thread; aka Moose.
Second post was questions aimed at me but by the time I saw them he was focused on Moose, so I let him forget about them and observed. Seeing as he's feeling out alignments he's either town or trying to act the part. Null.
Bardiculous: Seems to be posting but not quite contributing. Got nothing but gut feeling for him right now, and it's leaning towards Mafia. But based on pure facts, Null.
MooseyDoosey: Impulsive. Hotheaded. Downright stupid at times. But the strongest town read I have. Or a darn good Mafia. Town.
RadicalRat: Fairly good player from what I've seen and unreadable. Null.
Orboknown: Also a very middle of the road Switzerland player. Don't trust him at all. Null.
Generichandle: See RadicalRat.
Gheb_01,Thekingofkoopas,Maven89, SneakyTako: Fairly inactive. Null.
Zaixl: Confirmed Mafia kill him in the face

 

[Kaladin]

Rake: Obviously trying to feel out the newbies. First post was aimed at the people who confirmed in thread; aka Moose.
Second post was questions aimed at me but by the time I saw them he was focused on Moose, so I let him forget about them and observed. Seeing as he's feeling out alignments he's either town or trying to act the part. Null.
Bardiculous: Seems to be posting but not quite contributing. Got nothing but gut feeling for him right now, and it's leaning towards Mafia. But based on pure facts, Null.
MooseyDoosey: Impulsive. Hotheaded. Downright stupid at times. But the strongest town read I have. Or a darn good Mafia. Town.
RadicalRat: Fairly good player from what I've seen and unreadable. Null.
Orboknown: Also a very middle of the road Switzerland player. Don't trust him at all. Null.
Generichandle: See RadicalRat.
Gheb_01,Thekingofkoopas,Maven89, SneakyTako: Fairly inactive. Null.
Zaixl: Confirmed Mafia kill him in the face

This seems pretty spot on. Town read on you, even if you are confirmed scum.

 

[RadicalRat]

MooseyDoosey: Impulsive. Hotheaded. Downright stupid at times. But the strongest town read I have. Or a darn good Mafia. Town.

May I ask what leads you to have a Town Read on Moosy?

I've got him as a null read myself, but a lot of what he's doing is just stirring up confusion, which lines up with Mafia goals. Of course, he also does come across as just speaking whatever's on his mind with no filter, which while isn't ideal is Town... is just plain idiotic as Mafia.

Have you caught a pattern I'm missing?

 

[MoosyDoosy]

May I ask what leads you to have a Town Read on Moosy?

I've got him as a null read myself, but a lot of what he's doing is just stirring up confusion, which lines up with Mafia goals. Of course, he also does come across as just speaking whatever's on his mind with no filter, which while isn't ideal is Town... is just plain idiotic as Mafia.

Have you caught a pattern I'm missing?

Nope. It's just very simple. If someone is free to say what he thinks that means he's relaxed. Mafia tends to care a lot about how they present themselves and construct their posts a ton which is why their posts turn out mechanical. On the other hand, townies don't have this pressure and their posts feel a lot more natural.

-poke-

Part of the reason why I'm suspicious of you.

 

[Kaladin]

Nope. It's just very simple. If someone is free to say what he thinks that means he's relaxed. Mafia tends to care a lot about how they present themselves and construct their posts a ton which is why their posts turn out mechanical. On the other hand, townies don't have this pressure and their posts feel a lot more natural.

-poke-

Part of the reason why I'm suspicious of you.

His posts sound mechanical when he's town, if the mini game is any indication.

 

[MoosyDoosy]

slight town lean on orbo. Him not contesting bardull doesnt overly concern me. Still null on moosy like i said in my big post

10 points to whoever realizes why the reasoning behind this null read on me is bad.

 

[RadicalRat]

Nope. It's just very simple. If someone is free to say what he thinks that means he's relaxed. Mafia tends to care a lot about how they present themselves and construct their posts a ton which is why their posts turn out mechanical. On the other hand, townies don't have this pressure and their posts feel a lot more natural.

-poke-

Part of the reason why I'm suspicious of you.

You do have a solid point. But the Town has a lot to benefit from carefully constructing their own posts as well. That way we don't make slips that were really just !@#$-ups( Of which I made LOTS last game ), for the scum to jump on.

Motivation is everything. You have to be able to tell if this is a carefully manufactured TOWN post, or a carefully manufactured SCUM post. Same goes for super-natural posts.

 

[TheKingofKoopas]

Will start posting tomorrow when I have access to a notepad. Writing down thoughts just makes the game 10x easier instead of trying to keep it all in your head, then try to reply at 4 in the morning with your iPhone.

 

[Orboknown]

Nope. It's just very simple. If someone is free to say what he thinks that means he's relaxed. Mafia tends to care a lot about how they present themselves and construct their posts a ton which is why their posts turn out mechanical. On the other hand, townies don't have this pressure and their posts feel a lot more natural.

-poke-

Part of the reason why I'm suspicious of you.

but mechanical isnt scummy. What makes radrats posts scummy besides the mechanical aspect, because thats just how some people play this?

10 points to whoever realizes why the reasoning behind this null read on me is bad.

How do you think he should be reading you?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

How does 141 relate to Bardul?

"Tell me what you make of Bardull hating on Rake and supporting Moosey."

I didn't ask that question for no reason.

Orbo defending Rake is not that surprising regardless of alignment. They're big friends.

Cool story bro?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Could people kindly start voting Bardull already? Please?

 

[Zaixl]

Moosy seems town cause he lacks any coordination whatsoever. If he were Mafia his teammates would be able to guide him in their chat. Ergo, quite town.

 

[Zaixl]

Also, my gut's with gheb about Bard, but staying with a null until evidence.

 

[Kaladin]

Or really bad mafia. Are there any other inexperienced players?

Gheb, I don't like your rush to attack Bardul and get him lynched so quickly. It'd be fine if we were closer to the deadline, but we're not. Let the Day play out -- unless you're afraid of something being revealed with time?

 

[Zaixl]

If he were really bad Mafia other two teammates would guide him. And I'm new to your Mafia but not inexperienced in general. I'm about as close to a 'bad' player as we have right now, other than moose.

 

[MoosyDoosy]

Or really bad mafia. Are there any other inexperienced players?

Gheb, I don't like your rush to attack Bardul and get him lynched so quickly. It'd be fine if we were closer to the deadline, but we're not. Let the Day play out -- unless you're afraid of something being revealed with time?

This and:

but mechanical isnt scummy. What makes radrats posts scummy besides the mechanical aspect, because thats just how some people play this?

How do you think he should be reading you?

I'm not talking about how he should be reading me. -.- I'm trying to point out that his reasoning behind his null read on me is bad.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Moosy seems town cause he lacks any coordination whatsoever. If he were Mafia his teammates would be able to guide him in their chat. Ergo, quite town.

1.) What does "lack of coordination" even mean in this context?
2.) How does Moosy come across as such?
3.) Why would mafia want to come across as such?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gheb, I don't like your rush to attack Bardul and get him lynched so quickly. It'd be fine if we were closer to the deadline, but we're not. Let the Day play out -- unless you're afraid of something being revealed with time?

You're not gonna win the game as town if you make things more complicated than they have to be. Bardull has exhibited suspicious behavior, therefore it's OK to vote him.

 

[MoosyDoosy]

-sigh- No one seems to get it.

This was Rake's reasoning for the -1:

However, you get a -1 for failing to see my intent to bait you into a reaction. And failing to see why i'd say you were reactionary, which is basically the most base opinion I can have.

When I asked him what he got out of his "bait" Rake claimed I was mad:

you got mad and voted me coz of it

But I had repeatedly said that I wasn’t serious. If I wasn’t serious then there was no way I was mad at his post or taking it seriously.

Meh, overall it’s a weak reason to -1 someone. There was no way anyone wouldn’t see it as the joke it was and respond in kind. Also, it shows Rake isn’t exactly paying close attention to the thread if he didn’t catch the 3 or so times I said my post wasn’t serious.

 

[Zaixl]

Moosy has been swinging on whoever's closest and making himself a target. Mafia would tell him cut that out in the Mafia only thread if he were Mafia. Mafia does not want to come across as such, he's a town read.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Too many assumptions. Take his play for what it is - nothing more, nothing less.

 

[MoosyDoosy]

Moosy has been swinging on whoever's closest and making himself a target. Mafia would tell him cut that out in the Mafia only thread if he were Mafia. Mafia does not want to come across as such, he's a town read.

hey hey buddy. 2 things:
1. Nice profile pic FFVII remake hype and Advent Children was hype too.
2. That's just how I play. I spot things I don't like and pressure on those points.

And a question.
1. Thoughts on Gheb?

 

[MoosyDoosy]

1.) What does "lack of coordination" even mean in this context?
2.) How does Moosy come across as such?
3.) Why would mafia want to come across as such?

I feel like this implies I'm Mafia.

Who else are you looking into besides Bard?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I feel like this implies I'm Mafia.

??????????????????????????????

 

[MoosyDoosy]

??????????????????????????????

You're asking why Mafia would try and be all over the place which is what I'm doing. Hence, you're implying I'm Mafia.

So...who else are you looking into?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You obviously don't understand what I'm doing.

Just wait until Zai answers.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You're asking why Mafia would try and be all over the place which is what I'm doing. Hence, you're implying I'm Mafia.

Also, this makes absolutely no sense. Because I'm questioning his logic of what a mafioso would do ... I'm implying you're mafia?

Yeah that makes no sense. Just wait until he answers my question.

 

[Zaixl]

Gheb: I did answer. #181 bruh
Moosy: Gheb seems to be willing to point fingers but not back it up. Leaning scum.

 

[RadicalRat]

Now, there IS the possibility that he just isn't listening to his mafia buddies. This would match the stubbornness he's showing in here.


However, at this point we don't have enough to determine that. I'll go ahead and give him a Town Lean, but I'm not gonna Read him just yet...

 

[RadicalRat]

Unvote

Until something else pops up...

 

[Kaladin]

Moosy is wildly swinging at anything that moves. This could be interpreted positively or negatively. Slight town lean, but that could change.

Gheb seems desperate to cut the Day short... Slight scum lean.

Rake is janky. Null.

Bardull... I don't see the scum, but I don't see the town, either. Null.

Zaixl puts out solid town content. Town.

Anyone want to hear my thoughts on another given player?

 

[MoosyDoosy]

Unvote

Good idea

 

[MoosyDoosy]

Moosy is wildly swinging at anything that moves. This could be interpreted positively or negatively. Slight town lean, but that could change.

Gheb seems desperate to cut the Day short... Slight scum lean.

Rake is janky. Null.

Bardull... I don't see the scum, but I don't see the town, either. Null.

Zaixl puts out solid town content. Town.

Anyone want to hear my thoughts on another given player?

Rat

 

[Kaladin]

Rat is hard to read imo. Last game he was town, and his posts sound really similar/he makes similar content, but idk. Mostly null. I'd like to observe him more, however.

 

[MoosyDoosy]

GenericHandle, you're slipping down the scale from my null read.

 

[Orboknown]

Zaix reads town.
Think i like gheb so far
Rats nulltown.

 

[sneakytako]

Let's do this

Vote: Bardull

Uhhhhh hungover mafia is hard.

 

[sneakytako]

@orbo Does Zaix lean town simply for 181?

 

[Kaladin]

GenericHandle, you're slipping down the scale from my null read.

I don't really care what you think, so yeah. I'm more concerned with finding actual scum.