Otoad64
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my most wanted first parties are BWD and Toad but at this point I feel like the most likely 1st parties are promo fighters. Could easily be wrong though
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Bandana Dee, the Legend of Dee - Our Star Ally as DeeLC?! (v(- ' ' -)>↑
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Who thought ARMS had a chance before March 2020? Some people even thought it would secretly be an ARMS 2 ad because they couldn't let go of the idea that a first-party DLC fighter had to promote a super recent game.
Mamboo07
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Sadly, I don't think those two have a chance of being DLC.
The first party line-up is just depressing... we got four Nintendo reps:
- Two are from a franchise that the Smash fandom has a hatred for. (Corrin and Byleth)
- A Mario enemy (Piranha Plant)
- A character to rep a game with springy arms due to not getting in base roster. (Min-Min)
Otoad64
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arms is still a reletively recent game. I feel like Rex & Pyra are the most likely first parties honestly. Really hope i'm wrong though.
basically I don't see them adding pre switch first parties. Again, really hope i'm wrong
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I mean I'm realistic in that if there are first party reps its most likely going to be a Gen 8 Pokemon or a Xenoblade fighter, but Smash has zigged just enough when it was expected to zag that I can't entirely dismiss Dixie or BWD as possibilities.
Kirby Dragons
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Bandana Waddle Dee is the main first-party I'm interested in. If we get him, I'll be less wary about all the third-parties we're getting. Though for the most part, I wouldn't mind more first-parties after him.
SharkLord
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Hey guys, for the sake of recording stuff does anyone have that interview where they said Bandana Dee was going to have an extra mode? I need that link for another conversation.
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What monstrosities will unfold this time?
the same ones as ever
SharkLord
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Well for one, the big writeup I'm doing for the little guy
well after a write up like that I think you’ve become bandana fan of the year
Doc Monocle
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It looks like our favorite waddle dee is in for the encounter of his life! I was just thinking about the Krystal support thread, and how she is a spear user... What if, to boost the reception of Bandana Waddle Dee (I only use capital letters if I believe the character is non-generic), a reveal 'trailer' advertises him as a formidable opponent to the already 'confirmed,' seasoned space warrior? I can imagine his small size and a potential spear twirling reflector being able to make him a hard target for ranged attacks.
she uses a staff
Oracle Link
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Weird how Bandana dee didnt get a Plush!
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Long time since I posted here eh?
As I said in the RTC thread I think there’s some things worth keeping an eye on for Dee and it’s not as doom and gloom as it may seem. I also want to say try not letting the people against Dee bring your spirits down, I know it can be overwhelming (especially in times like these) but I find it’s best to stick to your guns and block people like those out, as long as you know what Bandana Dee means to you that’s really all that should matter. Don’t lose sight of that.
As I said in the RTC thread I think there’s some things worth keeping an eye on for Dee and it’s not as doom and gloom as it may seem. I also want to say try not letting the people against Dee bring your spirits down, I know it can be overwhelming (especially in times like these) but I find it’s best to stick to your guns and block people like those out, as long as you know what Bandana Dee means to you that’s really all that should matter. Don’t lose sight of that.
Doc Monocle
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Not a spear. Got it. I still think it would help his chances if everyone had a sneak peak of what he could do.
i would but im to busy being miserable
Kirby Dragons
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I don't spend enough time in Smash stuff to see the Dee haters, but even if I did, knowing how popular Dee generally is would help me deal with that.
True Blue Warrior
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And there are still people acting like
is a promotional pick just to act like she belongs in the same category as when really she is an outlier.some people would say any nintendo character must be a shill pickAnd there are still people acting like
Oracle Link
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Hey do you Want to know Bandana Waddle Dee´s German Name ? its Waddle dee Assistent (Waddle dee Assistant)!
I dont Know why the KSSU Translators changed it, i mean Bandana is used in Germany for the exact same thing ,Probbably the same Reason why the Words Revenge(Rache)/Galacta(Galaxischer?) and Soul(seele) were Changed to Ultra!
I dont Know why the KSSU Translators changed it, i mean Bandana is used in Germany for the exact same thing ,Probbably the same Reason why the Words Revenge(Rache)/Galacta(Galaxischer?) and Soul(seele) were Changed to Ultra!
well to be fair he was pretty much Kirby’s assistant in triple deluxe and planet robobot
Oracle Link
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I know but Bandana Sounds just more Personal and Nice
Do you want to know some other Things in German i am your Man for That
ill bare that in mind, I do enjoy video game trivia
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I find it funny that 1st and 2nd party picks are somehow seen as advertisements or shill picks because they come from...Nintendo. Like, what??? That makes no sense in the dlc smash community. Even calling Byleth that is a bit of a stretch because Three Houses was likely already considered to have some form of representation.
That being said, the idea that a Nintendo pick is purely advertisement based is stupid. Corrin was added because Fire Emblem's popularity has skyrocketed after Awakening and they felt the new game would probably have similar success, even if it didn't. Makes me wonder how people would act if a Sword and Shield rep got in smash, considering the gigantic divide in community it brought with it.
That being said, the idea that a Nintendo pick is purely advertisement based is stupid. Corrin was added because Fire Emblem's popularity has skyrocketed after Awakening and they felt the new game would probably have similar success, even if it didn't. Makes me wonder how people would act if a Sword and Shield rep got in smash, considering the gigantic divide in community it brought with it.
oh im sure they would still call sword and shield a shill pick. although according to sakurai corrin got in cause the whole smash team was playing fates at the time. also sakurai loves fire emblem. but if nintendo were wanting to shill their own characters then surely all the dlc characters would be nintendo characters?
Otoad64
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people don't see them as advertisements just because they come from nintendo, it's because they come from very recent games. if they had added a Fire Emblem character from an older game people would have less of a problem with it because it doesn't look like an advertisement, it doesn't look like nintendo are just putting them in because they want little timmy to go into the store and buy three houses or sun & moon because they recognize one of the characters from smash bros. if they added a sword & shield rep they would react the same way, because even if they also got in for other reasons it's still pretty clear they also want to shine the spotlight on characters from the most recent pokemon and most people would rather one of the older pokemon get added.
though if they are calling the very idea of a first party a shill then that's pretty stupid
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One thing to keep in mind is that when Corrin was announced, Fire Emblem Fates hadn't been released anywhere in the world but Japan at that point. (plus, Corrin was explicitly included to promote an upcoming game)
As for Byleth, the whole "advertising" aspect seems to come from the fact that Rex (whose game was announced January 2017 and released December 2017) was too late to be included in Smash, while Byleth (whose game was announced (as a placeholder, meaning that they likely weren't far in development) January 2017, revealed (given an actual title and details) on June 2018, and released July 2019) made it in, which (coupled with Roy and Corrin) makes it seem like they're once again using Smash to promote Fire Emblem.
With Min Min, it seems like a stretch to call her a promotional pick, but the lead up to her announcement likely got more people talking about ARMS than the game itself ever did, which seems like it could have been their intent.
While characters like Bandanna Dee, Dixie Kong, etc. likely wouldn't be dismissed as a promotional pick (they've got a long history behind them rather than being tied to one specific game, there's no games that they'd be promoting, etc.), Nintendo seems to have a track record when it comes to new first party DLC characters. (seeing as three of the four newcomers could be arguably seen as promoting something, and the fourth is Piranha Plant)
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It's just easier to say "Min Min isn't a shill" than "Min Min didn't debut super-super-super-super recently".
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YoshiandToad
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...I see what you did there.
RetrogamerMax
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It's funny how certain people call DLC Nintendo characters as promotional picks, but never call any 3rd party characters as promotional picks. Joker came out near Persona 5: Royal's release, Hero came out near Dragon Quest XI's release on the Switch, and Sephiroth came out near the releases of the FF7's Switch port release. But no, it's only Nintendo characters who are promotional or shill picks.
to be fair going by that video if sephiroth was promoting anything it was advent children
RetrogamerMax
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True. But he did came out near the time Square-Enix ported FF7 to the Switch.
Paraster
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No he didn't. FF7 Switch came out March 26, 2019. Close to 2 years prior.
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RetrogamerMax
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My bad than.
has it been that long already?
Oracle Link
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I love this thread its so friendly!
I better put my (sadly still German) Kirby Comic here
It takes place before Kirbys Dreamland 1
If you dont read German look at the pictures:
For everyone Wodering The 2 Poopy Bros sr are Kirbys Adoptive Parents in this version (because Poppy bros are called Pippo Peng and the Sr ones are called Papi Peng (Daddy Peng) Peng is basicly Bum)
The Yellow kirby is Keeby (who isnt really a Character in the games but its a Fan comic so yeah) and is "female" uses Sie/she
And Buddy Waddle Dee he is no important character nooooooo and his initials dont mean anything
I better put my (sadly still German) Kirby Comic here
It takes place before Kirbys Dreamland 1
If you dont read German look at the pictures:
For everyone Wodering The 2 Poopy Bros sr are Kirbys Adoptive Parents in this version (because Poppy bros are called Pippo Peng and the Sr ones are called Papi Peng (Daddy Peng) Peng is basicly Bum)
The Yellow kirby is Keeby (who isnt really a Character in the games but its a Fan comic so yeah) and is "female" uses Sie/she
And Buddy Waddle Dee he is no important character nooooooo and his initials dont mean anything