Bandana Dee, the Legend of Dee - Our Star Ally as DeeLC?! (v(- ' ' -)>↑

[GreyJinjo]

i got the dopest idea

So Bandana Waddle Dee gets in and stuff
and they use Palutena's Guidance on him
and then out of nowhere King Dedede comes in
and he has his voice actor from Right Back at Ya
that's it

 

[FancySmash]

i got the dopest idea

So Bandana Waddle Dee gets in and stuff
and they use Palutena's Guidance on him
and then out of nowhere King Dedede comes in
and he has his voice actor from Right Back at Ya
that's it

That's assuming Palutena's Guidance comes back, which will be quite the time consuming process considering we're looking at 70+ Characters.

That said, I do enjoy anime Dedede from time to time, even if I felt he was quite out of character to his game counterpart.

Though I'm now a little upset that the internet hasn't created Bandana Dee in the Right Back at Ya style...

 

[Organization XIII]

i got the dopest idea

So Bandana Waddle Dee gets in and stuff
and they use Palutena's Guidance on him
and then out of nowhere King Dedede comes in
and he has his voice actor from Right Back at Ya
that's it

That's the best idea I've ever heard and the second best thing I've ever heard next to Plantation Dedede of course.

 

[Awesomeperson159]

How about we all just start posting Dee memes (with context) so we can all laugh this off?

Did someone say memes?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Something that hit me, if the DLC characters are only now being worked on, then BWD could easily use the elemental team up powers from Star Allies.

 

[Mogisthelioma]

MOONSTRUCK BLOSSOM CONFIRMED

 

[WaddleMatt]

MOONSTRUCK BLOSSOM CONFIRMED

What, where?

 

[Mogisthelioma]

What, where?

Right here, my dude.

Also nice pfp.

 

[WaddleMatt]

Right here, my dude.

Also nice pfp.

Thanks, for both things

 

[Jubileus57]

What, where?

That actually had been talked about for several days ago on the Confirmed Music thread. One of the most Hype new songs, it seems.

But the real question remains: where is P.R.O.G.R.A.M.?

 

[WaddleMatt]

That actually had been talked about for several days ago on the Confirmed Music thread. One of the most Hype new songs, it seems.

But the real question remains: where is P.R.O.G.R.A.M.?

I'm sure it is just a waiting game. Either for base or hopefully in a package with a certain Bandana boy.

 

[Jubileus57]

I'm sure it is just a waiting game. Either for base or hopefully in a package with a certain Bandana boy.

I sure do hope so. That's the single best battle soundtrack in gaming history and nothing will change my mind on that.

 

[Mogisthelioma]

That actually had been talked about for several days ago on the Confirmed Music thread. One of the most Hype new songs, it seems.

But the real question remains: where is P.R.O.G.R.A.M.?

Most likely In the base game and we just have to wait and see. I'd be surprised if Planet Robobot wasn't part of the soundtrack.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Marx would be cool, period. Heck, any Kirby character would be super cool, they're all unique.

I think I accidentally made the post that started that without realizing it........

Thanks for the pictures! I'm glad they work as a trio and not like the animal friends, it would suck if I could only use one of them as 1/3 of their moveset.

It makes sense too, when you consider that they attack you all at once on the Another Dimension mode.

I stand by Skull Kid having it the roughest.

Didn't even get shown in the direct. Just hidden away on the website. The most we accomplished was a more detailed mii costume


I hope we do get season 2 that upgrades popular assist trophies


Bandana Dee feels like my last hope for a most wanted now, the only character I got that I really wanted was Ridley.

Although King Boo has had a bit of a rise in popularity. And Banjo fans still seem to be holding on to some hope I guess.

You think Skull Kid has the roughest. He's still not Tingle.
>start as stage obstacle
>"You're getting promoted to an assist trophy!"
>"Just kidding, you're an obstacle again"
That being said, King Boo is my safest expectation at this point after Poochy.

Most likely In the base game and we just have to wait and see. I'd be surprised if Planet Robobot wasn't part of the soundtrack.

On that note, I think we're in the same position as the Dixie fanbase right now: too much music and there won't be much reason for the Dee to show up if there isn't any to package him with left.

How could that be their theory?

Well, they thought that between Toad getting constantly getting passed over other Mario characters and Sakurai apparently making him a bigger part of Peach's moveset after being "treated" as a meat shield/hostage for a long time and the reasoning for it being seen as flimsy, that must mean Sakurai doesn't like Toad at all.

Amazing how a compromise can lead people to jump to this kind of conclusion...

 

[Mogisthelioma]

On that note, I think we're in the same position as the Dixie fanbase right now: too much music and there won't be much reason for the Dee to show up if there isn't any to package him with left.

Is that the Dixie logic? Makes sense. Also it's possible that we wouldn't have PR music since it may have come out too late in development, but who knows.

Well, they thought that between Toad getting constantly getting passed over other Mario characters and Sakurai apparently making him a bigger part of Peach's moveset after being "treated" as a meat shield/hostage for a long time and the reasoning for it being seen as flimsy, that must mean Sakurai doesn't like Toad at all.

Amazing how a compromise can lead people to jump to this kind of conclusion...

I mean, Sakurai anti-bias against Kirby can be made as an argument, but the man has no reason to hate toad for whatever reason. I have nothing against Toad or his supporters....but those are just bogus arguments.

 

[WaddleMatt]

Is that the Dixie logic? Makes sense. Also it's possible that we wouldn't have PR music since it may have come out too late in development, but who knows.

We have XC2 music and other stuff more recent than Planet Robobot so I doubt it will be an issue.

 

[Mogisthelioma]

We have XC2 music and other stuff more recent than Planet Robobot so I doubt it will be an issue.

I had no idea XC2 was part of the soundtrack. Raises my hopes!

It should be noted that we could get PR music but not PROGRAM. Intermezzo Without a Leader (phase 2) or Vagrant Counting Song of Retrospection (phase 3/NOVA) are equally likely for boss themes, but PROGRAM is pretty awesome regardless.

 

[WaddleMatt]

I had no idea XC2 was part of the soundtrack. Raises my hopes!

It should be noted that we could get PR music but not PROGRAM. Intermezzo Without a Leader (phase 2) or Vagrant Counting Song of Retrospection (phase 3/NOVA) are equally likely for boss themes, but PROGRAM is pretty awesome regardless.

Lol yea, the November 1st direct had a whole segment on it.

Honestly just give us any new Kirby music its all great!

 

[Mogisthelioma]

Lol yea, the November 1st direct had a whole segment on it.

Honestly just give us any new Kirby music its all great!

All I noticed was Rex mii outift, kind of killed it for me.

Also, I hate saying this, but Sakurai himself said XC2 wasn't going to be part of the DLC since it came out too late. He also said no echo DLC, and assist trophies won't be playable either (although he never said that last one, it's pretty much true). How come so many people are speculating otherwise?

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

All I noticed was Rex mii outift, kind of killed it for me.

Also, I hate saying this, but Sakurai himself said XC2 wasn't going to be part of the DLC since it came out too late. He also said no echo DLC, and assist trophies won't be playable either (although he never said that last one, it's pretty much true). How come so many people are speculating otherwise?

People are clinging to their last shred of hope and assume that ATs aren't that hard to reprogram. Smash 4 should have been enough to prove that this isn't the case. Also, that since Nintendo called the shots recently, that must mean "hey, Rex has a chance" to some, yet nobody considered that we'll most likely just get characters from before 2015.

As for ignoring no Echoes? Probably because it's the only way some characters (like Coco and Ms. Pac-Man) can get in, although seeing that disproved would be neat.

Did someone say memes?
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Luckily that first one isn't likely, since ATs haven't been downloadable before and since.

 

[WaddleMatt]

All I noticed was Rex mii outift, kind of killed it for me.

Also, I hate saying this, but Sakurai himself said XC2 wasn't going to be part of the DLC since it came out too late. He also said no echo DLC, and assist trophies won't be playable either (although he never said that last one, it's pretty much true). How come so many people are speculating otherwise?

Yea seeing Rex 'deconfirmed' was unexpected everyone thought he was going to be DLC. Also I can explain people's reasonings:

1. There is a bit of confusion whether Sakurai meant he couldn't make it in the base roster or DLC. It seems like he might have added the costume in as a compromise but Nintendo might have chose him as DLC later on. We still don't officially know when Nintendo chose the DLC characters it could have been shortly before Sakurai's tweet for all we know. Either way I'm not expecting him.

2. Sakurai only said the Fighter Pass wouldn't include echoes, there could be standalone echo DLC possibly. I wouldn't expect it though.

3. I mean he never said Assist Trophies deconfirm right? At the end of the day it is still a fan rule. I may be biased but there is some evidence to suggest Isaac was cut from the base roster but I don't think anything is sufficient enough as of yet. People will hope and if anything hope is needed to keep some of these fanbases alive, the Isaac fanbase is coping quite well right now which is what we need.

 

[Jubileus57]

On that note, I think we're in the same position as the Dixie fanbase right now: too much music and there won't be much reason for the Dee to show up if there isn't any to package him with left.

While I can see the reasoning behind that, I wouldn't get too worried since both Kirby and DK have far more than enough AMAZING music tracks to cover new DLC stages while still have plenty of new music tracks in the base game. I could honetsly coulld fill 3 stages worth of music with the Tropical Freeze soundtrack ALONE, and since we have a finite amount of possible tracks in the base game (800 give of take several IRC), there are bound to be many more great musics left for eventual DLCs.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

While I can see the reasoning behind that, I wouldn't get too worried since both Kirby and DK have far more than enough AMAZING music tracks to cover new DLC stages while still have plenty of new music tracks in the base game. I could honetsly coulld fill 3 stages worth of music with the Tropical Freeze soundtrack ALONE, and since we have a finite amount of possible tracks in the base game (800 give of take several IRC), there are bound to be many more great musics left for eventual DLCs.

That is pretty fair. Hell, there's a ton of Kirby games that probably didn't even get their songs in Smash, so I bet they could even pool from Block Ball if they wanted to.

Also, how much music has Crunchii been able to rip, anyway? They apparently couldn't get the full version of Guile's remix, yet has no problem getting most of the rest.

 

[Jubileus57]

That is pretty fair. Hell, there's a ton of Kirby games that probably didn't even get their songs in Smash, so I bet they could even pool from Block Ball if they wanted to.

Even Kirby games with representations don't come even close to being drained of their soundtrack potential. Be it the actual battle themes usually fitting for smash or all the other tracks that could get an upbeat remix for the occasion.

Here is a fragment of all the Kirby themes I would like to see in Smash, remixed of not (some might be a little too calm for some people's tastes but still).

Spoiler: Long string of videos

(would sound great on Fountain of Dreams I think)

(or any Nova remix)
And of course...

And those are only the recent Kirby games (plus Air Ride)

 

[11th]

Also, how much music has Crunchii been able to rip, anyway? They apparently couldn't get the full version of Guile's remix, yet has no problem getting most of the rest.

None, because they're only uploading songs that were ported into Ultimate from other games other than the menu (partial) theme, which was probably given to them by someone who was granted access to it by Nintendo. No one will have access to any of the new remixes in full until the game is released (or leaked).

It's nice to see more songs popping up, but it's too bad that they all appear to be ports. (Not that the originals are bad, of course, it's just nice to have new mixes.) So far we only have two new remixes confirmed, right? ("City Trial" and the KDL1/KSS staff roll mix.) I wonder if the DLC will focus on remixes for the first-party characters (if there are any) since they won't have to get additional music rights like they will for third-parties...

 

[Mogisthelioma]

None, because they're only uploading songs that were ported into Ultimate from other games other than the menu (partial) theme, which was probably given to them by someone who was granted access to it by Nintendo. No one will have access to any of the new remixes in full until the game is released (or leaked).

It's nice to see more songs popping up, but it's too bad that they all appear to be ports. (Not that the originals are bad, of course, it's just nice to have new mixes.) So far we only have two new remixes confirmed, right? ("City Trial" and the KDL1/KSS staff roll mix.) I wonder if the DLC will focus on remixes for the first-party characters (if there are any) since they won't have to get additional music rights like they will for third-parties...

Well, Nintendo did give Crunchii permission for the menu themes.

Also I cannot fathom how the Captain Toad fanbase can argue that Sakurai is biased against them.

 

[Teeb147]

It just doesnt make sense not to add more kirby characters to the new smash.
I say there's still good chances to get one

 

[Mogisthelioma]

Dee would be Smash's first fighter to use both a spear and a parasol. He's the most unique DLC candidate I can think of.

 

[PokéfreakofBACON]

He didn't say there's no echo DLC in general, he just said that the fighter pass is entirely unique characters. Echoes completely seperate from the fighter pass is still a possibility.

 

[Mogisthelioma]

He didn't say there's no echo DLC in general, he just said that the fighter pass is entirely unique characters. Echoes completely seperate from the fighter pass is still a possibility.

That's true. Potential echoes? I'm thinking Dixie, Galacta Knight, Octoling, Hilda, or maybe even another version of Link are in the realm of possibility. But remember that echoes also include amiibo, which each take a year to develop, and they're already developing 77 figures, plus 5 DLC characters.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Dee would be Smash's first fighter to use both a spear and a parasol. He's the most unique DLC candidate I can think of.

That's for sure. Let's just hope he's realisable enough for DLC resources.

None, because they're only uploading songs that were ported into Ultimate from other games other than the menu (partial) theme, which was probably given to them by someone who was granted access to it by Nintendo. No one will have access to any of the new remixes in full until the game is released (or leaked).

It's nice to see more songs popping up, but it's too bad that they all appear to be ports. (Not that the originals are bad, of course, it's just nice to have new mixes.) So far we only have two new remixes confirmed, right? ("City Trial" and the KDL1/KSS staff roll mix.) I wonder if the DLC will focus on remixes for the first-party characters (if there are any) since they won't have to get additional music rights like they will for third-parties...

I for one am glad they kept bangers like the SML underground theme and the best Dedede remix this side of Star Allies, among others. Some Kirby songs are so good as is that it's tough to want them remixed.

He didn't say there's no echo DLC in general, he just said that the fighter pass is entirely unique characters. Echoes completely seperate from the fighter pass is still a possibility.

Probably, but until then it's pure conjecture. We can't rule out Sakurai's "one and done" game dev philosophy that Nintendo is steadily drifting away from.

That's true. Potential echoes? I'm thinking Dixie, Galacta Knight, Octoling, Hilda, or maybe even another version of Link are in the realm of possibility. But remember that echoes also include amiibo, which each take a year to develop, and they're already developing 77 figures, plus 5 DLC characters.

Yeah, at most I could expect a Ms. Pac-Man Echo inclusion, aside maybe Dixie.

 

[PokéfreakofBACON]

That's true. Potential echoes? I'm thinking Dixie, Galacta Knight, Octoling, Hilda, or maybe even another version of Link are in the realm of possibility. But remember that echoes also include amiibo, which each take a year to develop, and they're already developing 77 figures, plus 5 DLC characters.

I'm not saying I EXPECT echo DLC... But I totally expect echo DLC.

 

[Organization XIII]

I wonder if echoes would really be DLC? There's no way they'd be free but they also wouldn't be able to charge full price for them. Maybe they could do echo bundles like they did with mii costumes. As for now though I only expect the 5 newcomers we're getting though I do hope for a second season.

 

[Megadoomer]

Dee would be Smash's first fighter to use both a spear and a parasol. He's the most unique DLC candidate I can think of.

That seems... overly specific. It's like saying that Aeron from Pandora's Tower should be a playable character because he's the only one who uses a giant chain as a weapon, or that Cranky Kong should be playable because he'd be Smash's first fighter to use a cane.

 

[PokéfreakofBACON]

I wonder if echoes would really be DLC? There's no way they'd be free but they also wouldn't be able to charge full price for them. Maybe they could do echo bundles like they did with mii costumes. As for now though I only expect the 5 newcomers we're getting though I do hope for a second season.

They could be free though. If they're more like Lucina or Daisy where they're pretty much alt skins with slightly different properties, that could very easily be something they just give to us to keep the game alive longer. The Duck Hunt stage was free, and also Splatoon 2 keeps doing this. It's really not as ridiculous as you might think.

If they were more like Ken or Dark Samus though... maybe not free.

 

[Mogisthelioma]

That seems... overly specific. It's like saying that Aeron from Pandora's Tower should be a playable character because he's the only one who uses a giant chain as a weapon, or that Cranky Kong should be playable because he'd be Smash's first fighter to use a cane.

We don't have a fighter who uses a spear. let's start with that. A parasol now? That's pretty cool. But spear for starters.

 

[PokéfreakofBACON]

We don't have a fighter who uses a spear. let's start with that. A parasol now? That's pretty cool. But spear for starters.

To be less specific, we don't have a fighter with a very long range melee weapon that can't be bent. Whips are obviously very different from spears.

 

[Mogisthelioma]

To be less specific, we don't have a fighter with a very long range melee weapon that can't be bent. Whips are obviously very different from spears.

Especially since the Belmonts' whips are designed to be slow but powerful, kind of the opposite of a spear.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Especially since the Belmonts' whips are designed to be slow but powerful, kind of the opposite of a spear.

Given that, it would make for some tense and exciting pitched combat matches.

 

[GoodGrief741]

That seems... overly specific. It's like saying that Aeron from Pandora's Tower should be a playable character because he's the only one who uses a giant chain as a weapon, or that Cranky Kong should be playable because he'd be Smash's first fighter to use a cane.

Real talk, I’d love Aeron to be in Smash.