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Bandana Dee, the Legend of Dee - Our Star Ally as DeeLC?! (v(- ' ' -)>↑
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Hollywoodrok12
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Yeah. They made a whole video on it about why Bandana shouldn't be in Smash because he's a "Hat Goomba" and have also bashed him during discussions.
Shadow Keebey
Smash Hero
Something important should probably be brought up. If the DLC newcomers were decided after the spirits were put in the game, it's hard to say that spirits deconfirm DLC fighters. After the uproar of promo characters for the last game (Bayo was incredibly broken and hated, Corrin had massive uproar for such a noticeable promo choice), there's a low chance of the same mistake twice. Nintendo made the list, which likely means that Bandana Waddle Dee was on the table. And not to mention, there's always the possibility of a spirit being retooled into a Fighter Spirit, like what Meta Ridley has, but for DLC.
SupriceSupplies
Smash Journeyman
I’ve taken a backseat to smash speculation, but obvious circumstances had me decide I’d throw in my two cents.
This really isn’t much of a surprise to me, I fully expected him to be revealed as a spirit at launch or earlier, but damnit, does it hurt. I’m at least glad he’s been recognized, and while I’d like to believe spirits aren’t deconfirmations... I’m not holding my breath. I’m not switching sides just because my most wanted has been revealed as one.
I think I can finally leave smash speculation behind me. I’ll keep on hoping but... unless we get a first party DLC reveal, I’m not getting my hopes up.
T’was a good ride. But I’ll throw in the towel here.
This really isn’t much of a surprise to me, I fully expected him to be revealed as a spirit at launch or earlier, but damnit, does it hurt. I’m at least glad he’s been recognized, and while I’d like to believe spirits aren’t deconfirmations... I’m not holding my breath. I’m not switching sides just because my most wanted has been revealed as one.
I think I can finally leave smash speculation behind me. I’ll keep on hoping but... unless we get a first party DLC reveal, I’m not getting my hopes up.
T’was a good ride. But I’ll throw in the towel here.
Royalty1702
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>Forgets about Luigi's Mansion 3
Hollywoodrok12
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I wouldn't rely on Nintendo being "Too Smart to do X", since with Box Theory, everyone said that "Nintendo's too smart to show off how many fighters they have left so far from release, especially with them being so predictable", but Box Theory ended up being real, so I wouldn't say that Nintendo's going to learn from their mistakes. If anything, they'll go out of their way to make sure they happen again.
I think it's time to give up on anyone that isn't Byleth, Gen 8 or leaked by Vergeben or Hitagi.
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[Maple]
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"Hat Goomba"
It might be the dumbess argument. He has his own fighting style and is playable alongside Kriby, Metaknight and King Dedede.
I'm not a Bandana Dee fan myself (to be honest I don't really like kirby's games) but he would complete the quatuor perfectly and is super cute with his spear.
Shadow Keebey
Smash Hero
There's also this Spirit.
This doesn't even look like the other Wii Fit Spirit, which is a pose. This is basically just her standing there. This one doesn't even have a name.
This doesn't even look like the other Wii Fit Spirit, which is a pose. This is basically just her standing there. This one doesn't even have a name.
Jubileus57
Smash Ace
TBH if spirits disconfirmed characters entirely there would not be room for ANYBODY except 3rd parties. And a full 3rd party DLC roster would be quite preposterous.
I still believe that the most requested Nintendo character (our Bandana Boy if the polls are to e believed) will not fall behind some outsiders.
I still believe that the most requested Nintendo character (our Bandana Boy if the polls are to e believed) will not fall behind some outsiders.
Chandeelure
Bandana Brigade Captain
We should continue with the support, asking Nintendo, making art and explaining why Bandana Waddle Dee would be a great newcomer choice.
— 🍎 Bandana Dee Brigade 🍎 (@BandanaDeeSSBU) November 19, 2018
This will obviously not be the last Smash, we don't even know if Spirits disconfirm or how many DLC waves Ultimate will have, so don't give up!
Please, don't give up.
Ridley or K. Rool fans didn't and they got what they wanted after years of support.
UnknownJ25
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So hypothetically if Spirits do deconfirm characters (which I doubt) who would even be left for first party characters?
Jubileus57
Smash Ace
I'm not sure many would have given up anyways. I like to believe the support will stay at it's peak. Spirits or not. Besides I'm pretty sure that such a conspicuous absence in the the spirits list would be too much of a big giveaway of who would be the surprise 5 DLC.
Bandana Dee's situation is nowhere as concerning as if, say, he was an AT.
Shadow Keebey
Smash Hero
Honestly, I can't think of any serious choices in that case. Taranza? Adeleine? Those are the only ones that I can think of for Kirby that have no known appearance as Ultimate Spirits.
Hollywoodrok12
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They'd all be promotional, just like Smash 4's DLC. I wouldn't expect anyone beyond an FE3H rep, a Gen 8 Rep and MAYBE a Metroid rep.
SupriceSupplies
Smash Journeyman
Characters from upcoming games. A FE 3 houses character and a gen 8 Pokémon are the most common names. (Even if I feel they aren't as particularly likely as alot of people say.)
At this point I believe in my initial prediction that all DLC content will be third parties from franchises without any content. I don't think it's much of a strange thought as 3/4 newcomers in 4 DLC were third party as well.
Jubileus57
Smash Ace
That would be some utter garbage DLC then ^^'. Not to mention costly to Nintendo in royalties. Only time will tell but I can't imagine Nintendo handing Sakurai a pick list containing only 3rd parties.
Chalo5000
Smash Lord
Eh, can't say I'm surprised really, literally every character with any kind of Official Art seemed to be a spirit and considering how obscure some characters are, I already knew a BWD spirit was bound to happen. 
However, I've always been part of the "Being a spirit doesn't deconfirm a character" club so I don't feel too bad right now.
In fact, here's an idea I had, remember how in Smash 4 Lucas and Mewtwo were trophies before becoming playable? Well, I do think that if Bandana Dee was to be added as DLC they'd just add another BWD spirit using the Star Allies render that would work as the Fighter Spirit for the newly playable Dee.
Either that or they'd just change the spirit that's already in into a Fighter Spirit, they can do anything they want really.
For now, just don't lose hope guys.
However, I've always been part of the "Being a spirit doesn't deconfirm a character" club so I don't feel too bad right now.
In fact, here's an idea I had, remember how in Smash 4 Lucas and Mewtwo were trophies before becoming playable? Well, I do think that if Bandana Dee was to be added as DLC they'd just add another BWD spirit using the Star Allies render that would work as the Fighter Spirit for the newly playable Dee.
Either that or they'd just change the spirit that's already in into a Fighter Spirit, they can do anything they want really.
For now, just don't lose hope guys.
I'm 100% sure Taranza and Adeleine are spirits too, we just haven't seen them.
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Shadow Keebey
Smash Hero
Oh I can easily see Taranza as a spirit, same with Adeleine. But we haven't seen anything to do with them.I'm 100% sure Taranza and Adeleine are spirits too, we just haven't seen them.
Jubileus57
Smash Ace
With the sheer amound of spirits we are getting, some of which being really obscure, I kinda doubt these two wouldn't show up.
Which is also the reason why I kinda expected big characters like Elma and BWD shoiwing up while not ending their chances as DLC. I don't remember the Dixie or Geno fans giving up when revealed to be spirits.
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Chalo5000
Smash Lord
If it has official art, it's a Spirit, that's the kind of reasoning I'm going with.
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PsySmasher
Smash Hero
Unless you have actual photographic evidence, no one is going to believe you.
Plus how would you even know this info?
The general public has not tried anything related to Spirits.
So you either have insider info (which you have to prove beyond words) or you're straight up lying.
And until I see tangible proof from your sources or another official source, I'm going to assume the latter.
Chalo5000
Smash Lord
I honestly think regular Waddle Dee evolving into Parasol Waddle Dee or any of the many other Waddle Dee variations makes more sense.
TreeBranch
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Bandana Dee seriously has to be DLC. He's EXTREMELY popular inside and outside the smash bubble, and could promote any new Kirby game coming out. This guy would sell for sure. How could Nintendo pass up the opportunity?
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Edit: the damn picture wont post but here it is
https://twitter.com/steveng86/status/1064544448082784256
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I hope this is the "Wolf is guaranteed" of SSBU.
Shadow Keebey
Smash Hero
That doesn't mean Waddle Dee evolves. Just that there is a BWD and a Waddle Dee spirit.
WaddleMatt
Smash Lord
Well I mean, at the time you didn't have evidence so can you blame us?
Also yea, this isn't surprising to me. Honestly with Spirits I don't know if they deconfirm. Put it this way, if the spirits for important characters were missing that would pretty much CONFIRM they were DLC. I don't think they would do that plus Trophies last game.
PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP!!!
I'm still going to support our boy to the very end and heck I'm even still supporting Isaac who is an Assist Trophy! Giving up like this proves nothing, don't give up please. So far we have just got lucky to evade anything so far but now we must feel what other fanbases have felt and still do feel.
The other fanbases haven't given up and neither will we!
We will get our boy in the end.
What was Cloud's inclusion advertising?
Hollywoodrok12
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I was talking specifically about first parties. All of the 1st party DLC was pronotional. We are probably going to get a few other 3rd parties, but anything else is going to be promotional.
WaddleMatt
Smash Lord
So you mean literally just Corrin.
Hollywoodrok12
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Not just Corrin, but also the fact that literally everyone else was either a Veteran or a 3rd party. That's not good at all for existing First Parties like Bandana Dee.
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smileMasky
Smash Ace
You know something I'm at least happy he got recognized. Just hoping he's in the DLC pack. I like 3rd party and all but if we don't at least see some first parties....
Flyboy
Smash Hero
I really feel that with the vets out of the way first-parties have slightly better odds. We really do not know and have no way of predicting what route they'll go with for the DLC. For all we know these are just characters that were on the plan and pushed to a pass, or they're all third parties, or they're all for games not out yet. Or they're none of this. We really don't know yet.
MrArska
Smash Cadet
Honestly, I'm kind of pleased that we got SOME kind of representation. I had a slight fear that we'd just get absolutely left behind.
However, Spirits aren't a 100% deconfirm just yet.
Keep on Dee-living! We aren't out of the running just yet!
However, Spirits aren't a 100% deconfirm just yet.
Keep on Dee-living! We aren't out of the running just yet!
waddledeeonredyoshi
Smash Lord
If a character who has a spirit ends up being DLC, the Spirit COULD still be removed when the game installs that character after buying them, correct?
PsySmasher
Smash Hero
Thank you for providing the source.
Well looks like he is in the game as a spirit, but I don't think that deconfirms any character (we'd be left with very few options if all spirits were out of the picture).
MrArska
Smash Cadet
Anyways, now that BWD is confirmed a Spirit, what could a possible Spirit battle against him be?
Acemania
Smash Apprentice
So if spirits really do deconfirm characters, WHO IS LEFT?!?! I can't help but feel like the devs didn't think this whole spirit thing through...
KeyOh
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Yeah guys, let's just stay calm for now.
The ballot pretty much gave them a list of characters that that they absolutely had to include as spirits at the very least. It would be incredibly odd if a popular first party, a character with no rights issues, was left out in what is Ultimate's equivalent to trophies. Of course, we had reasons to be suspicious due to select characters not being seen before now, but that ended up just being a coincidence. If I had to guess, the bulk of spirits were decided way before DLC was being locked down. For right now, there's no reason to think we can't see something like Lucas and Mewtwo's trophies in 4 happen.
Even if this is truly bad news, let's be happy we actually got through to Sakurai this time. Remember that Bandana was absolutely nowhere to be seen in Smash 4. It's entirely possible that his presence on the ballot is what assured his role as a primary spirit rather than a supporter. Just look at what happened with K. Rool, at first the fans were given something that wasn't quite what they wanted but everything turned out fine in the end.
The ballot pretty much gave them a list of characters that that they absolutely had to include as spirits at the very least. It would be incredibly odd if a popular first party, a character with no rights issues, was left out in what is Ultimate's equivalent to trophies. Of course, we had reasons to be suspicious due to select characters not being seen before now, but that ended up just being a coincidence. If I had to guess, the bulk of spirits were decided way before DLC was being locked down. For right now, there's no reason to think we can't see something like Lucas and Mewtwo's trophies in 4 happen.
Even if this is truly bad news, let's be happy we actually got through to Sakurai this time. Remember that Bandana was absolutely nowhere to be seen in Smash 4. It's entirely possible that his presence on the ballot is what assured his role as a primary spirit rather than a supporter. Just look at what happened with K. Rool, at first the fans were given something that wasn't quite what they wanted but everything turned out fine in the end.