BaganSmashBros and ko.'s Kustom Kontent - King K. Rool, Kraid and...Metal Face?!

[Zombie Saurian]

If it comes down to it, Down B could just be him releasing a burst of electrical shocks around him. When grounded, could be useful for keeping space as it wouldn't be laggy nor does it do a tremendous amount of damage, just knockback.

Maybe have him pull out two electric pods in each hand and have their shock knock people back.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

I have one done (Tropical Freeze), and I will do the others tomorrow. Are there other ones you want me to do?

Nothing related to K. Rool at least.

I don't think K. Rool should be super slow, he's actually a pretty athletic character and usually fast.

Not really possible with this model. At least not without looking ridiculous.

His walk should be slow like in DK64. His run should resemble his speed in DKC1.

How slow was his walk in 64?

If it comes down to it, Down B could just be him releasing a burst of electrical shocks around him. When grounded, could be useful for keeping space as it wouldn't be laggy nor does it do a tremendous amount of damage, just knockback.

Maybe have him pull out two electric pods in each hand and have their shock knock people back.

Unless you mean he should put those on the ground, it can be done.

 

[Kazooie56]

k.rool was slow in dk 64 and mario sluggers but fast in dkc games and barrel blast. im thinking you make him have average ground speed

 

[BaganSmashBros]

k.rool was slow in dk 64 and mario sluggers but fast in dkc games and barrel blast. im thinking you make him have average ground speed

Can be done only when running. Im limited by model in some parts, so, he either is slow, but looks natural or he is fast, but it looks like animation is too fast/short.

 

[SuperSmashSean]

I finished two of the victory themes. I did the Bonus Lose and the beginning of the Finest Hour theme (Audacity gave me way too much crap by ruining most of the files I clearly saved ). I'll do more if these are good.

Here are the .wav files for you BaganSmashBros , and please give me your honest opinion. If they suck or not then tell me:

 

[BaganSmashBros]

I finished two of the victory themes. I did the Bonus Lose and the beginning of the Finest Hour theme (Audacity gave me way too much crap by ruining most of the files I clearly saved ). I'll do more if these are good.

Here are the .wav files for you BaganSmashBros , and please give me your honest opinion. If they suck or not then tell me:

Bonus Lose is fine, but Finest Hour is not. Audio quality is just bad.

 

[Cpt.]

Sorry I've been gone for a while BaganSmashBros !

I've been checking in occasionally and I just saw that you were working on K Rool and Metal Face! I'm hyped! Awesome stuff. I'll be sure to make some "how to add _ to PM" videos once these characters are done!

 

[SuperSmashSean]

Bonus Lose is fine, but Finest Hour is not. Audio quality is just bad.

I'll try it again and see what I can do. Audacity is just terrible, it even corrupted the Bonus Lose MP3 I downloaded to use.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

I'll try it again and see what I can do. Audacity is just terrible, it even corrupted the Bonus Lose MP3 I downloaded to use.

Good news. I decided to re-visit Maya again and i finally noticed that animImportExport plugin wasn't turned on even though i did so at some point while trying to make it work. So, i'll spend a lot less time on keeping feet on the ground. This applies to both K. Rool and Metal Face (who has no toes and his feet are thin and they also have heels, so, its more useful for him). But i'll be ignoring MF until K. Rool is at least playable.
Also, its possible to use SSB for 3DS animations. And coding takes a lot less time than animations. Just sayin'.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Double post.

 

[SuperSmashSean]

Good news. I decided to re-visit Maya again and i finally noticed that animImportExport plugin wasn't turned on even though i did so at some point while trying to make it work. So, i'll spend a lot less time on keeping feet on the ground. This applies to both K. Rool and Metal Face (who has no toes and his feet are thin and they also have heels, so, its more useful for him). But i'll be ignoring MF until K. Rool is at least playable.

How are you able to get Maya and/or 3DS Max without spending $185 a month for each one. Autodesk's products are fantastic, but I don't want to pay that much for software I will only use for insanely specific things.

Sorry for it being off topic, but it is something I just had to ask now that you brought it up.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

How are you able to get Maya and/or 3DS Max without spending $185 a month for each one. Autodesk's products are fantastic, but I don't want to pay that much for software I will only use for insanely specific things.

Sorry for it being off topic, but it is something I just had to ask now that you brought it up.

Spoiler

Im not exactly...pure, you know? I don't want to pay for a whole car if all i need is one bolt from it. There are torrents for this stuff.

 

[Kazooie56]

i think that bonus loss would be just fine, do you have a down b for k.rool yet? i still think it should be the ground slam

 

[BaganSmashBros]

i think that bonus loss would be just fine, do you have a down b for k.rool yet? i still think it should be the ground slam

Not really and i still haven't really decided what exactly i'll use.

 

[drogoth232]

You can just get the student version of Maya. It's not that hard. You don't even need to torrent anything and you can always download the latest Maya/Max updates from Autodesk without having to risk getting a virus or something stupid.

Seriously.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

You can just get the student version of Maya. It's not that hard. You don't even need to torrent anything and you can always download the latest Maya/Max updates from Autodesk without having to risk getting a virus or something stupid.

Seriously.

Whats the difference between student version and normal Maya?

 

[drogoth232]

Whats the difference between student version and normal Maya?

Literally nothing. Except you don't have to do anything illegal.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Literally nothing. Except you don't have to do anything illegal.

Where's fun in that? And modding isn't legal either.

 

[drogoth232]

And modding isn't legal either.

IDK where you got that idea from, but modding is in a legal gray area. Hell, some companies even support and encourage modding (such as Skyrim).

 

[BaganSmashBros]

IDK where you got that idea from, but modding is in a legal gray area. Hell, some companies even support and encourage modding (such as Skyrim).

Wikis. That and this is Brawl modding. Nintendo doesn't likes modding (and few other good things). Look at what happened to PM. Im not even talking about what happened recently. Banning people for mentioning it even if they meant Paper Mario or X:YZ PM? That means something.

 

[drogoth232]

Wikis. That and this is Brawl modding. Nintendo doesn't likes modding (and few other good things). Look at what happened to PM. Im not even talking about what happened recently. Banning people for mentioning it even if they meant Paper Mario or X:YZ PM? That means something.

You've got a lot to learn.
What happened to PM had nothing to do with it.
Back to scheduled program of things pls

 

[Zombie Saurian]

The fact that Rockstar publisher, Take 2, sent detectives to a modder's house to intimidate him tells us something.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

The fact that Rockstar publisher, Take 2, sent detectives to a modder's house to intimidate him tells us something.

...its a good thing i live in the middle of no-f***ing-where.

You've got a lot to learn.
What happened to PM had nothing to do with it.
Back to scheduled program of things pls

Not the last thing about them and yes, back to scheduled program of things.


...f***, i've got nothing related to K. Rool to show outside of updated textures and updated running animation.

Still think its missing something. Used Zangief's running animation as a base, then made him swing his arms less. He kinda shakes here, but its not noticable when whole screen shakes with each step (and it sounds like something big is coming after ye). Yeah, screen didn't shake when he was running in DKC, but if Bowser can do it while simply walking, then why not K. Rool, who is bigger and actually fat?

 

[Kazooie56]

i think it might be his neck or chest. When i look at this image of k.rool

your k.rool has a much longer neck and his torso seems to be much boxier i guess compared to this one. Also im just going to get a few nitpicks out of my head right now
the jewel on his chest could be slightly bigger
the cape could be a bit taller
those rings around the legs should be gone
and his mouth or lips should be thicker and less curved
heres another cool image i found for costumes if you dont want to make a pirate, boxer, scientist ect

 

[HypnotizeOverdrive]

heres another cool image i found for costumes if you dont want to make a pirate, boxer, scientist ect

I'm digging these recolors. Where did you find these pics?

 

[Zombie Saurian]

I'd prefer at least one for two color pallete swaps reserved for a Kaptain and Baron costume. But whether or not it's going to take more time I don't know.

 

[drogoth232]

Animation feels stiff and robotic.

 

[Zombie Saurian]

Only major gripe is that the arms seem too big overall. Otherwise this is a great start, just needs to be more loose and fluid

 

[BaganSmashBros]

i think it might be his neck or chest. When i look at this image of k.rool

your k.rool has a much longer neck and his torso seems to be much boxier i guess compared to this one. Also im just going to get a few nitpicks out of my head right now
the jewel on his chest could be slightly bigger
the cape could be a bit taller
those rings around the legs should be gone
and his mouth or lips should be thicker and less curved
heres another cool image i found for costumes if you dont want to make a pirate, boxer, scientist ect

You're compating different designs. K. Rool on image is mostly Nintendo's design. Our K. Rool is mostly using Rare's design.

2 different things. Our K. Rool is more top-heavy, but still.
And those recolors could work except things like crown should remain gold.

Animation feels stiff and robotic.

Does this looks better:

Yeah, i didn't really make this (but its not present in PM in any way), but i don't like making looping animations with character walking or running in them and i always fail at them. If this is better, i'll use this. If it isn't, i'll use previous animation.

Only major gripe is that the arms seem too big overall. Otherwise this is a great start, just needs to be more loose and fluid

After looking at original design more, yeah, they are too big. But i think its more because of shoulders than arms themselves.

 

[Zombie Saurian]

The new animation closer represents the classic run cycle of DKC, I like it! Maybe some tweaks here and there but it's on the right direction. Anyway to get the cape to flow in the wind? I remember talks about rigging it to match Ganon's?

 

[Kazooie56]

I'm digging these recolors. Where did you find these pics?

i found them on google images. i tried to find them again but all i found were inflation images from deviantart

 

[BaganSmashBros]

The new animation closer represents the classic run cycle of DKC, I like it! Maybe some tweaks here and there but it's on the right direction. Anyway to get the cape to flow in the wind? I remember talks about rigging it to match Ganon's?

It already flows in the wind. Its just not possible to see outside of game itself.

I'm digging these recolors. Where did you find these pics?

Missed this post. Its from Smashboards' K. Rool thread.

 

[SuperSmashSean]

It looks fine when playing a serious match, as you don't really focus on what the hell your character's running animation is. With a few more tweaks it will be good enough in general.

 

[drogoth232]

idk, but animation doesn't seem to fit KRool imo. Maybe add some more tweaks to it, but it's easier to add your own details when you make it from scratch.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

idk, but animation doesn't seem to fit KRool imo. Maybe add some more tweaks to it, but it's easier to add your own details when you make it from scratch.

I tried making it from scratch. Looked stiff as you said.

 

[drogoth232]

Then try harder.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Then try harder.

I effort hard
but i can't effort running and walking animations

 

[drogoth232]

You'll never make good animations with that attitude.

Look at videos of people walking and running. Look up videos of how crocodiles move. Look up videos of how KRool runs. Download the video and slow it down frame by frame, see what moves and how it moves. Look up other walking and running cycles and study them.

You need to actually try if you want to get good.
Maya is a powerful tool for animating, but unless you're willing to study and actually use the tools it's useless. Trust me, my animations were literally garbage when I started using Maya.

When using any animating tool, the first try will never be good. Neither will the second or third. I wish I could tell you how many revisions I made to my animations before I submitted it to the PMDT, and even then there were things that stuck out and were really bad and unnatural.

Put in the effort, practice, and you'll see results. Otherwise, you won't get very far. Trust me.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

You'll never make good animations with that attitude.

Look at videos of people walking and running. Look up videos of how crocodiles move. Look up videos of how KRool runs. Download the video and slow it down frame by frame, see what moves and how it moves. Look up other walking and running cycles and study them.

You need to actually try if you want to get good.
Maya is a powerful tool for animating, but unless you're willing to study and actually use the tools it's useless. Trust me, my animations were literally garbage when I started using Maya.

When using any animating tool, the first try will never be good. Neither will the second or third. I wish I could tell you how many revisions I made to my animations before I submitted it to the PMDT, and even then there were things that stuck out and were really bad and unnatural.

Put in the effort, practice, and you'll see results. Otherwise, you won't get very far. Trust me.

I don't think videos of crocodiles moving would help when dealing with a guy who barely looks like one, but i'll try. I'll effort. I'll be the very best.

 

[Zombie Saurian]

I suggest studying the DK64 running cycle, try mixing that with his run cycle in DKC 1. Whatever you feel is right.