BaganSmashBros and ko.'s Kustom Kontent - King K. Rool, Kraid and...Metal Face?!

[BaganSmashBros]

Does anyone know where this image/model came from?

I'm comparing K. Rool's legs here to the ones in the mod. I get the impression that perhaps making them thicker would give a more natural look to them? Especially to fill in the ''rings'' that are seen right around the spot where the mod's legs and main body connect. Also, this image keeps the legs further apart from each other (maybe its more practical this way)?

It won't help. Problem with them (when animating at least) is that they are too short, not too thin or too close to each other.

I agree with the hands and shoulders. The hands especially are way too freakish-looking at the moment.

They do look freakish, but this is Brawl and K. Rool (or any of the Kremlings) isn't supposed to look pretty.

How much can the model be changed Bagan? Perhaps being too faithful to K. Rool's original design (as in, the Rare CG artwork you posted earlier) is making it harder to implement in a fighting game environment that offers so much free-movement? Not sure if I explained that last sentence well.

In any case, I wish you good luck!

I can move around verticles and things like that, but no major changes (shoulders will remain wide, legs won't get longer, etc). The only thing thats more difficult with this design is movement, but everything else is fine.

And thanks.

Here's a bunch of GIFs I made in order to help you have references to make proper animations for K. Rool.

#1 - Intro (possible) -

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-20-2015/JKrQOF.gif

Can be done. Chain can be something from Flying Kroc or whatever that thing in DKC3 was called.

#2 - Idle Animations -

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-20-2015/mAIbYm.gif

What exactly he is doing here?

#3 - Run Cycles -

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-20-2015/Cau_pb.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-20-2015/LYhRx2.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-20-2015/NJQOPf.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-20-2015/NnCe1D.gif

Run cycles from the front without side view don't help much, but thanks for those at least.

#3 - Shield Break/Tripping? Walking Animation -

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-20-2015/qCiw_I.gif

Thats a big one...Will take a look at it later.

 

[Zombie Saurian]

In idle, he looks back and forth, periodically punches the air in preparation for a fight.

I couldn't find any direct side views.

 

[MazeDIs]

Still here if you need animtion help. The Animation Bank is back up anyways

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Still here if you need animtion help. The Animation Bank is back up anyways

Y'know, how about making running animation for now?

 

[Zombie Saurian]

Here's a few more gifs for sprinting and walking/jogging. I tried getting a side view the best I could. The game doesn't allow good side shots, but his run is not very complex, it's basically a fat man run but more "athletic", I guess is a way to describe it.

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-21-2015/30mMgD.gif

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-23-2015/axl1zF.gif

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-23-2015/gH158R.gif

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Here's a few more gifs for sprinting and walking/jogging. I tried getting a side view the best I could. The game doesn't allow good side shots, but his run is not very complex, it's basically a fat man run but more "athletic", I guess is a way to describe it.

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-21-2015/30mMgD.gif

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-23-2015/axl1zF.gif

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-23-2015/gH158R.gif

Thanks for those.

 

[MazeDIs]

Y'know, how about making running animation for now?

Ok, Still don't have the model

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Ok, Still don't have the model

Will be fixed.

 

[latinking]

Here's a few more gifs for sprinting and walking/jogging. I tried getting a side view the best I could. The game doesn't allow good side shots, but his run is not very complex, it's basically a fat man run but more "athletic", I guess is a way to describe it.

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-21-2015/30mMgD.gif

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-23-2015/axl1zF.gif

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-23-2015/gH158R.gif

Can you make a gif of this video below for Bagan? It's the perfect example of what K.Rool's slowest walk animation should be in the mod

 

[Zombie Saurian]

BAM! Here ya go, a cool slow walk animation.

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-24-2015/7Jtqc2.gif

 

[Kazooie56]

did you pick to make those four characters just because there big? also is there any character you want to play as that you dont want to make because i've always wanted petey piranha and regirock

 

[Zombie Saurian]

Regirock would actually be pretty amazing.

 

[Kazooie56]

i thought i was the only one who thought that. just saying it makes me want to learn how to make characters

 

[SuperSmashSean]

Can you make a gif of this video below for Bagan? It's the perfect example of what K.Rool's slowest walk animation should be in the mod

BAM! Here ya go, a cool slow walk animation.

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-24-2015/7Jtqc2.gif

Here are two more gifs for it, so Bagan has different angles to work with:

Also, I agree, this would be an awesome reference for his walk.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

BAM! Here ya go, a cool slow walk animation.

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-24-2015/7Jtqc2.gif

Here are two more gifs for it, so Bagan has different angles to work with:

Also, I agree, this would be an awesome reference for his walk.

...not gonna question it. Just...ok then.

did you pick to make those four characters just because there big? also is there any character you want to play as that you dont want to make because i've always wanted petey piranha and regirock

No. Kraid is here because last time he appeared was in 2005, K. Rool is here because he is highly requested character like Ridley that isn't playable because lol Sakurai and Metal Face is here because why not? And no, there are no characters like that.

 

[Kamineigh]

Yeah, it's just a coincidence that all four of them are humongous. A fortuitous coincidence, but a coincidence none the less.

 

[Zombie Saurian]

Someone should tackle Tyrantrum as a character. We could always use a Dinosaur pokemon in Smash.

 

[Kamineigh]

Oh hell yes! Its Final Smash would totally be Draco Meteor!

I always found it funny that it could learn that move, since it was an asteroid that finished off the non-avian dinosaurs.

 

[Kazooie56]

uhh anyways... kirbys metal face cannon looks very large, can you show kirby with metal faces ability next to metal face? Also can i see metal face getting eaten by kirby in a gif or something

 

[BaganSmashBros]

uhh anyways... kirbys metal face cannon looks very large, can you show kirby with metal faces ability next to metal face? Also can i see metal face getting eaten by kirby in a gif or something

He still uses ROB's beam...and why would you need that of all things?

 

[Kazooie56]

you want your characters to fit in with the rest of the cast then they all should look normal when eaten by kirby, and since metal face is really big i was wondering how he would look eaten by such a small character

 

[Wolley2xjd]

So are you planning to give K,rool a Satan alt? Because that would be awesome!

OR even better, K.rool dressed has Satan riding Metal Face has a slead and they're being pulled by Ridley!

 

[BaganSmashBros]

you want your characters to fit in with the rest of the cast then they all should look normal when eaten by kirby, and since metal face is really big i was wondering how he would look eaten by such a small character

Oh, that. It looks fine.

Metal Face is big, but not in same way as Kraid or K. Rool. He is just tall.

So are you planning to give K,rool a Satan alt? Because that would be awesome!

OR even better, K.rool dressed has Satan riding Metal Face has a slead and they're being pulled by Ridley!

Um...Are you sure its not "Santa"? But that is a good idea...except i can't do modelling stuff.

 

[MazeDIs]

Perfect Walk animation image. And, i'd hate to be 'THAT' guy, but Bagan, the K Rool Model that you sent me was extremely inconvenient to animate for me because he was literally too small. Dunno if it's the Brawlbox version i'm using or what.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Perfect Walk animation image. And, i'd hate to be 'THAT' guy, but Bagan, the K Rool Model that you sent me was extremely inconvenient to animate for me because he was literally too small. Dunno if it's the Brawlbox version i'm using or what.

Just set its TopN bone scale to 1, 1, 1 and it will be a lot bigger. I keep it so small by default to see how animation looks like without messed up lighting and for stuff not related to modding.

 

[Kazooie56]

how big is kraid gunna be

 

[Jmanthesmasher683]

how big is kraid gunna be

Spoiler

too big.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

how big is kraid gunna be

Depends on the model. Frayark is kinda busy right now, so, im not going to have it until at least January-February.

 

[MewLucaRoy]

Hmm, very interesting character mods you have here.

Could I test, if possible?

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Hmm, very interesting character mods you have here.

Could I test, if possible?

All of them and can you use heavy fast-falling characters? And only Metal Face is available right now (hopefully will be fixed very soon).

 

[MewLucaRoy]

All of them and can you use heavy fast-falling characters? And only Metal Face is available right now (hopefully will be fixed very soon).

Of course I can.

Oh? I'd love to test Metal Face.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Of course I can.

Oh? I'd love to test Metal Face.

Ok then.

 

[Zombie Saurian]

I noticed Ridley has no fast fall like all the other characters, will that be fixed in the future?

 

[kalvinwithak]

A little bit late to the testing scene, but I would love to test all of them. Just got Xenoblade so I'm excited to see Metal Face.
1. I can use heavy characters
2. I can do all you listed
3. I can test on Wii and Dolphin
4. All of them, but mainly K. Rool
Huge fan of your work. Ridley is great, I bet these guys will be too.

 

[Kazooie56]

whats k.rools taunts

 

[BaganSmashBros]

I noticed Ridley has no fast fall like all the other characters, will that be fixed in the future?

He can do it, but it barely matters. Kinda like with Samus.

A little bit late to the testing scene, but I would love to test all of them. Just got Xenoblade so I'm excited to see Metal Face.
1. I can use heavy characters
2. I can do all you listed
3. I can test on Wii and Dolphin
4. All of them, but mainly K. Rool
Huge fan of your work. Ridley is great, I bet these guys will be too.

Ok then.

whats k.rools taunts

Nothing yet.

 

[Zerkanator]

Good to know that.

I am too.

 

[Dastardly Ridleylash]

About Tyrantrum, since Zombie Saurian brought it up; that's a project I'd like for us to do at some point, but right now I'm more focused on testing what we have on our plate right now. It's definitely on my mind for a future project, though; and I already have a moveset planned out because of Smash 4 speculation, which saves us time.

I just need textures and a model that's usable with BrawlBox and I can start working on the aesthetic parts (skins, CSS textures, etc). From there, though, it's going to have to be a team effort. Though since Project M won't be getting any more updates, this makes it so I'll have less time to fret about updates to the game, and thus can keep it on the backburner.

It's definitely something that, if not started as a group effort, will be posted on separately.

 

[Kazooie56]

i was sooo close to getting my characters made, shoot.

 

[kalvinwithak]

Any updates on Krool?