Bad Idea Mafia Vol. 3 - Ovah!?

[Riddle]

When someone votes like 20 posts after posting a reasoning I assume that theres an additional reason behind the vote. Why didn't you just vote in that post?

 

[Omni]

cuz i was waiting for chibo to respond
which he hasnt
btw good job ignoring
the point i was making
about this post

Plus its really hard to figure out what you're saying because of how youre posting >.>

it wasn't a big deal at first
but the fact that you're ignoring it
bothers me
which specific post(s) is really
hard for you to figure out
riddle (also, post on your hydra)

 

[BilboBaggins]

None of the posts are hard for me to figure out. If I look at them and try to comprehend them I have no trouble with it. The problem comes when i read through 3 pages fairly quickly. Your posts tend to stick in my brain less.

 

[Chuckie]

What does you (Vandy) say?

I agree with what I said Kat said . But I usually look to see if Swiss has intent/motive to what he's saying and if he doesn't he's probably scum.

The following up is what I dislike. Town Swiss usually has some sort of aim and I'm able to pick up on his reasoning eventually. Even in RVS. But the questions he's been asking seem to me like he is just asking them to be asking them and doesn't have any intention to gain something behind them. Like in his #25 and #28. He said he didn't follow up because his cpu shut down but that was way after. And I feel he is trying to force his playstyle. Like with the calling himself scum. That's something that he always does but it seems like he is forcing it because he has to.

That's basically what I meant. Not sure if you're agreeing/elaborating on what I said, but I agree.

I dunno about his laptop johns, but he shouldn't be using it as an excuse for his play a day before he announced it.

-Chuckie + Mentos =/= scumbuddies
-Chuckie + Omni =/= scumbuddies
-Could see Swiss-Chibo/Swiss-Omni (Knife).

Good to know.

Swiss hate is justified but has probably gone too far. It's also too universal to make me comfortable.

Why do you think the Swiss hate is too universal? Iirc theres only like 5 people who've commented on him being scummy so far (Kevin, Tanny, Us, Ronike?, Zen) other than you.

You must think that scum is on his "wagon" so to speak. Who then out of these players?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

@Mod: can we post our hydra communication logs and our QT posts? (say yes say yes say yes say yes!) Wii'd be able to give better insight in how we function with this power-up.

Hydras are allowed to post communication logs as they are considered one player. Therefore the information is not shared privately with a different player. Posting it in public will not affect this and is acceptable by the mod's standards.

 

[CT Chia]

hm
idk
why do you ask

Tbqh I felt like asking someone a ques to get my thoughts rolling and in reading your avatar stuck out the most in my mind, but the sub reasoning which prompted it beyond that I can't tell because of an ongoing game

But there isn't some crazy hidden agenda to it or anything, just curiosity and getting to learn ppl

 

[Tandora]

you misunderstand



is this based off previous games with Swiss
or are you taking his joke literally

A little of both.

what are you thinking about him atm?, and Tandora/Nich?

I haven't made a definite stance on him yet. Swiss' lack of access is making my call harder.

Want to see more Zen. Lurker Zen = Scum Zen.

Also, Chuckie, I thought about NBC. You did complain you wanted to hold my hand after I asked if anyone wanted to hand hold, but that was after both hands were taken. I'd like to think only Town Chuckie would OFFER his hand sincerely. So, I accept your offer if you still want me.

*holds out hand*

 

[BilboBaggins]

Why do you think the Swiss hate is too universal? Iirc theres only like 5 people who've commented on him being scummy so far (Kevin, Tanny, Us, Ronike?, Zen) other than you.

You must think that scum is on his "wagon" so to speak. Who then out of these players?

S2 and maybe others that I'm missing have also commented on him being scummy, I believe. It honestly just bothers me, because quite a few people "wagoned" him over something that seems pretty small imo. I might be overreacting though because I have no idea how suspicious everybody is of him, because of the lack of voting system. THIS is why I'm in favor of one, since fmpov, Swiss could be the equivalent of L-1 or he could just have a bunch of FoS's on him that don't mean much or he could be anywhere in between. I just have no idea which is the case.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Regarding the quickshoot thing, yes, my stance on it was an empty threat. The idea was that by maintaining such a firm stance on it (and the threat of another mislynch), it would prevent idiot townies from quickshooting, but since you guys have blown it up, there's no point in pretending any more. (Although it would still work in preventing future quickshootings, in this small of a game I think you lose more than you'd gain with that tactic. Would probably still work in a large game, but that's irrelevant.)

 

[Swiss]

A little of both.



I haven't made a definite stance on him yet. Swiss' lack of access is making my call harder.

Want to see more Zen. Lurker Zen = Scum Zen.

Also, Chuckie, I thought about NBC. You did complain you wanted to hold my hand after I asked if anyone wanted to hand hold, but that was after both hands were taken. I'd like to think only Town Chuckie would OFFER his hand sincerely. So, I accept your offer if you still want me.

*holds out hand*

This is exactly the same as how you played in DnD.

Too careful, planned, reasonable.

In detail, what about Chuckie means you're willing to hold his hand?

 

[Swiss]

I agree with what I said Kat said . But I usually look to see if Swiss has intent/motive to what he's saying and if he doesn't he's probably scum.

My posts are legit as scum. Goddamn, the whole reason I **** on you two everytime is because they're legit. Look, unless you are gonna quickshoot me you're never gonna kill me when I'm scum (not a scum slip). So you might as well assume I'm town - right?

Cool.

I dunno about his laptop johns, but he shouldn't be using it as an excuse for his play a day before he announced it.

Kat actually has the exact time my laptop broke because I called him to ask for techno help. He never picked up, though.

*******.



/postwithnorealcontentbutheyitllbenicetoseepeopletryandreadscumintoitasimusingwifomwhichicanonlydoasscumright?

 

[Rockin]

S2 and maybe others that I'm missing have also commented on him being scummy, I believe. It honestly just bothers me, because quite a few people "wagoned" him over something that seems pretty small imo. I might be overreacting though because I have no idea how suspicious everybody is of him, because of the lack of voting system. THIS is why I'm in favor of one, since fmpov, Swiss could be the equivalent of L-1 or he could just have a bunch of FoS's on him that don't mean much or he could be anywhere in between. I just have no idea which is the case.

You know, you could just easily see where other's stances are in terms of said person. Or you can specifically ask him of it,

The vote system isn't that big of a deal.

 

[Chuckie]

Can we assume the vote system IS a big deal and just go with it? Are people afraid to place down votes? It would be wasteful to say you like a voting system if it isn't actually employed! Wii don't mind assuming the role of votekeeper because there's 2 of us around both extremes of the clock. But by all means if we reach the top of a new page people should follow the template and post it themselves.

VOTE COUNT:

[2] Chibo: Chuckie, Omni

[0] Omni
[0] Swiss
[0] Bilbo
[0] Ronike
[0] KevinM
[0] Mentos
[0] Rockin
[0] Chuckie
[0] Nicholas
[0] Zei
[0] Sold
[0] Tandora

[11] Not Voting: Swiss / Bilbo / Ronike / KevinM / Mentos / Rockin / Nicholas / Chibo / Zei / Sold / Tandora

Rockin who would you be going for then at this very point in time (assuming you have your eye on some players, which you should be)? You don't have to vote with all the bold syntax and stuff... this is just a means of recording stances and it's something easily spotted when people reread the thread.
_

@Zei: Here's a Vanz post from the beer garden to clear up our stances on Swiss:

Swiss on the other hand, I like his immediate move to stop people from quick shooting (which is inherently pro town, but everyone should have this viewpoint so it's a null point). But he's asking pointless questions like he did in Halo mafia which gives bad vibes. Does he normally start a game like this? Seems like a real poor way to get the ball rolling, and time will show if he actually cares about getting the game going.

I like Kevin, I've never seen his town play but so far his logic is sound in questioning Swiss' system.

Chibo always confuses me.

This is one of mine:

Swiss seems Town? I don't know about that... he seems really energetic. Scum imo are being quiet.

^That actually makes it look like I think Swiss is scum lol, but I don't atm or at least I'll need more tells. I think Swiss' immediate dive into the game with his anti-quickshoot proposal is something he wouldn't do as scum so early in the game. I'm much more interested in Ronike, Nich and Chibo, maybe others atm.

Why are you waiting on distinct tells from Nich btw?
Why did you ask Chibo for his character?

@Omni: Actually I did come up with that independently - I didn't rely on your reasoning to reach the same conclusion, which makes me feel somewhat better about you too. I did and do agree with you just to be super clear in case it wasn't previously implied. I want Chibo to explain himself concerning Swiss. Also, about Tandora and Mentos... what do you make of their current contributions to the game? And what do you think of the buildup against Swiss?

@Swiss: our time wil totally come Could you answer my previous question plz and make this a quick and painless experience? And I'm sorry I missed your call btw, I didn't want my ears to bleed.

@Bilbo: out of curiosity what have you discussed so far with Frozen? Are you willing to share hydra communication logs or posts?

@Nich: Why would you reveal the fact it was an empty threat btw?

Wii kinda really wanna hear more from Ronike, Sold and Mentos, oh and Chibo about his stance on Swiss.

 

[BilboBaggins]

I am perfectly willing to share logs, but we haven't actually spoken since he's V/LA.

 

[Rockin]

Rockin who would you be going for then at this very point in time (assuming you have your eye on some players, which you should be)? You don't have to vote with all the bold syntax and stuff... this is just a means of recording stances and it's something easily spotted when people reread the thread.

Well no one, really.

There isn't anyone that really catches my attention or rubs me wrong way.

 

[Xivii]

im not sure
that's why i said "hm"
but i did feel the need to point it out
and im curious to kateif's response
hm
what do you think, Zen

Nothing.

just felt like it
no reason really

I don't see why you would play like this for no reason. I agree with bilbo that your posts take more attention to see where you are at. You said earlier that yu don't think it takes away from your ability to contribute to town, but to me it does and it just makes you harder to read which really only benefits scum not town.

interesting
do you find me scummy

Suspicious enough to think you could be scumbuddies. This just speculation though. This was mainly because of Swiss' questioning you in #28 I think and then not talking to you after that. It looks to me like Swiss asking his scumbuddy some basic questions and then just dropping it. I just see no other reason for that post if he didn't even care about the answers.

A little of both.



I haven't made a definite stance on him yet. Swiss' lack of access is making my call harder.

Want to see more Zen. Lurker Zen = Scum Zen.

This isn't true. Actually it is, but I'm not lurking. It's odd for you to call me out for this when you just explained to Omni that you weren't lurking and you've posted about as much as I have this game.

Also, Chuckie, I thought about NBC. You did complain you wanted to hold my hand after I asked if anyone wanted to hand hold, but that was after both hands were taken. I'd like to think only Town Chuckie would OFFER his hand sincerely. So, I accept your offer if you still want me.

*holds out hand*

How would being that "Both hands were taken" make a difference? I don't see the logic in this.

S2 and maybe others that I'm missing have also commented on him being scummy, I believe. It honestly just bothers me, because quite a few people "wagoned" him over something that seems pretty small imo. I might be overreacting though because I have no idea how suspicious everybody is of him, because of the lack of voting system. THIS is why I'm in favor of one, since fmpov, Swiss could be the equivalent of L-1 or he could just have a bunch of FoS's on him that don't mean much or he could be anywhere in between. I just have no idea which is the case.

Suspicions isn't the same as having hardcore thoughts on someone being scum. I think votes should be used for more set stances on where people are at. Also the universalness of a wagon shouldn't a reason not to think someone is scum if they are being scummy. If many people feel someone is being scummy then scum need to also express that and distance themselves.

Why are you waiting on distinct tells from Nich btw?

Why did you ask Chibo for his character?

By distinct tells I mean meta. And because I feel I can get a good read on him based on how he plays as compared to other games ongoing and offgoing.

Me asking Chibo his character is a joke from an ongoing game.

 

[BilboBaggins]

Suspicions isn't the same as having hardcore thoughts on someone being scum. I think votes should be used for more set stances on where people are at. Also the universalness of a wagon shouldn't a reason not to think someone is scum if they are being scummy. If many people feel someone is being scummy then scum need to also express that and distance themselves.

I don't know what youre trying to say in the first part. I agree that thats not a reason to think someone isn't scum, I don't think Swiss is town because a lot of people are voicing suspicions. When did I say I did?

 

[Xivii]

Like you're saying that a lot of people think he is scum, but no one is voting for him.

And I thought you were saying that you didn't the suspicion on Swiss because a lot of people were exprssing suspicion on him. Is that not what you're saying? #111 is what I'm refering to.

 

[vanderzant]

My posts are legit as scum. Goddamn, the whole reason I **** on you two everytime is because they're legit. Look, unless you are gonna quickshoot me you're never gonna kill me when I'm scum (not a scum slip). So you might as well assume I'm town - right?

Cool.

Name one game where we haven't proclaimed from the mountains that we think you to be scum.

It's cool that you think you're awesome and all, but you're
1. not responding to my claims,
2. not giving me any reason to believe you're town

So if you won't even give me the time of the day to respond to my posts you might as well be confirmed scum.

Seriously, "my posts are legit as scum." How ******** are you? I know you know how to play scum. Why would you think I'd be so intent in making you respond to stuff if I didn't think that?

Scrub

 

[Chuckie]

@Bilbo: Ok

@Tan: Chuckies hand is sticky from eating too many sweets . Lets just be friends and make fun of Swissipoo :D

 

[DtJ S2n]

Do it then.

Challenge accepted .

Explain why plz?

Because out of everyone here, sans hydras, mentos is probably the hardest person to read. Pretty sure plenty of other people have expressed concerns about how straight-fact his posts are in other games/threads that I don't feel like linking. It was an odd choice.

What does everyone define as quickshooting? This is the other side of the Chuckie brain btw and I've just finished up reading

I thought it meant like, shooting without consent or warning.

It honestly just bothers me, because quite a few people "wagoned" him over something that seems pretty small imo.

I unno I kinda thought that was the most significant thing thus far this game, given we're only 10 pages in. Is there something bigger in your opinion we should be looking at? Unless this is what was bigger in itself: the people wagoning Swiss.

 

[Rockin]

Because out of everyone here, sans hydras, mentos is probably the hardest person to read. Pretty sure plenty of other people have expressed concerns about how straight-fact his posts are in other games/threads that I don't feel like linking. It was an odd choice.

Yeah that's true that people have said that. However, I feel I can read him pretty good just by looking at some of his habits within his posts. Yeah, a few others have also played with him. I rememember some of those same people say that I'm hard to read and really I feel I'm like one of the easiest OGs players to read XD

 

[Omni]

@Omni: Actually I did come up with that independently - I didn't rely on your reasoning to reach the same conclusion, which makes me feel somewhat better about you too. I did and do agree with you just to be super clear in case it wasn't previously implied. I want Chibo to explain himself concerning Swiss. Also, about Tandora and Mentos... what do you make of their current contributions to the game? And what do you think of the buildup against Swiss?

ok
tandora is mm, idk.
i wanted her to go into detail
about Swiss and reference another game
where she has seen scum Swiss do the same thing

mentos hasn't done anything
which isn't a surprise
he usually plays slow and steady
until end game

regarding Swiss
ive just been looking for people
who find him scummy
it's an easy out to push "scum"
onto the person who is the most aggressive/talkative
and tho i found a lot of his questioning to be fluff
i didn't see it to be direct reason to
condemn him as scum

I don't see why you would play like this for no reason. I agree with bilbo that your posts take more attention to see where you are at. You said earlier that yu don't think it takes away from your ability to contribute to town, but to me it does and it just makes you harder to read which really only benefits scum not town.

i'm being lazy
but i believe i am contributing
very well
and especially by comparison
to most of the players in the game
my stances are clear
i just rather leave all fluff
out of my posts for now

Suspicious enough to think you could be scumbuddies. This just speculation though. This was mainly because of Swiss' questioning you in #28 I think and then not talking to you after that. It looks to me like Swiss asking his scumbuddy some basic questions and then just dropping it. I just see no other reason for that post if he didn't even care about the answers.

not seeing any other reason
is not like you Zen
but agree that Swiss dropping his questions
was awkward. not necessarily scummy tho

Why would anyone assume you felt Chibo was scum for that? All you did was ask him a question. You never mentioned you felt he was scummy for it or even suspicious. It doesn't show this at all.

slow down
i never said Chibo was scum
nor did i imply it
you're jumping the gun, Zen

Based on your #107 I would expect that your point to be that you voted chibo because the " I don't like it, but it's not that scummy..... I would like to either see him be the one to shoot someone today" which you mention in the post you're quoting the question from. But the reasoning you're stating here doesn't flow with that and I don't see how you would assume people would think you felt Chibo was scummy from that.

reexamine what has been said here
and in my previous posts
i voted Chibo because i asked him two sets of questions
which he failed to answer for a certain time period
how have you been able to look
so much further than that?

Why did you give the former as your reasoning to Riddle instead of the latter?

im sorry, Zen
but why do you care?
what is the point of this question?
because it was clear that Riddle was the one
that was on at the time
and im sure you should be able deduce that
so wtf, Zen?

 

[BilboBaggins]

Like you're saying that a lot of people think he is scum, but no one is voting for him.

And I thought you were saying that you didn't the suspicion on Swiss because a lot of people were exprssing suspicion on him. Is that not what you're saying? #111 is what I'm refering to.

I was saying that the people on the wagon may need to be scrutinized. Though, without the vote system I can't tell how suspicious people are of him, so I don't know how important it is.

I unno I kinda thought that was the most significant thing thus far this game, given we're only 10 pages in. Is there something bigger in your opinion we should be looking at? Unless this is what was bigger in itself: the people wagoning Swiss.

Idk whats bigger, but they both need to be looked at for sure.

 

[Tandora]

This is exactly the same as how you played in DnD.

Too careful, planned, reasonable.

In detail, what about Chuckie means you're willing to hold his hand?

I don't think this is how I played in DnD at all, but obviously we have different perspectives on that. I always felt in DnD I was much more active early on and that I tended to buddy up/hide behind Cello.

Also, I think I am being careful this game simply because it is a different set up than I am used to. Certain assumptions and hard givens aren't going to be around because we don't have the same kind of pressures to respond to or look for.

I cannot wait until L-1 to claim. I might be dead before I can do anything. Or I can go off half-cocked and just kill a dude. It changes how you deal with things when you have that kind of power to use or be used against you.

I was thinking about how Cello said I wouldn't ruin months of townie play by falsely offering my hand in NBC. I thought about how Chuckie complained he wanted to hold my hand that game, but never actually TRIED to hold my hand. In retrospect, knowing he was scum that game, it kinda gives away he never really wanted to hold my hand. He just wanted the appearance of it.

I feel that Chuckie would also not hurt his townie rep by falsely offering hand holding, which is why I accepted his offer after some thought.

Seems like a light nudge from you, Swiss. Normally, you hit a lot harder back.

This isn't true. Actually it is, but I'm not lurking. It's odd for you to call me out for this when you just explained to Omni that you weren't lurking and you've posted about as much as I have this game.
How would being that "Both hands were taken" make a difference? I don't see the logic in this.

My comment was more intended as "I feel I could get a more solid read from more posts from Zen", not "He already lurking." And look you posted. <3

@Tan: Chuckies hand is sticky from eating too many sweets . Lets just be friends and make fun of Swissipoo :D

Uh, huh....

Why did you initially offer hand holding if you gonna back out now? What you up to, sir?

I was saying that the people on the wagon may need to be scrutinized. Though, without the vote system I can't tell how suspicious people are of him, so I don't know how important it is.

I just kinda feel this is scummy play. You're criticizing the wagon without contributing scrutiny. If the wagon needs scrutinizing, then scrutinize it. It's not like your players are the type to need permission to get something done. If you're scum, you either know Swiss is town and you wanna look good by not contributing or you know Swiss is scum and you want to try to deflect attention from him.

I'd be inclined to shoot you and if you flip scum, have Swiss shot.

Points My Gun at Bilbo

 

[Xivii]

i'm being lazy
but i believe i am contributing
very well
and especially by comparison
to most of the players in the game
my stances are clear
i just rather leave all fluff
out of my posts for now

Eh. Fine. Not sure why this requires the need to post in blocks though. Just makes your posts hard to read.

not seeing any other reason
is not like you Zen
but agree that Swiss dropping his questions
was awkward. not necessarily scummy tho

What? How could I see no other reason if there is none? He showed no reason for asking you.

slow down
i never said Chibo was scum
nor did i imply it
you're jumping the gun, Zen

That's generally what votes mean. You vote someone when you think they are scummy. You stated you had reasoning for voting him. So I'm not really jumping the gun.

What I'm saying is that you made it seem like it should have been obvious as to why you were voting Chibo. But then gave a reason that was not obvious at all. I'm simply saying that your response to Riddle was like you've explained your thoughts but you didn't really.

reexamine what has been said here
and in my previous posts
i voted Chibo because i asked him two sets of questions
which he failed to answer for a certain time period
how have you been able to look
so much further than that?

I really don't think you get what I'm saying. No one can read your mind. You never pointed out that you felt Chibo was scummy for the post you quoted.

im sorry, Zen
but why do you care?
what is the point of this question?
because it was clear that Riddle was the one
that was on at the time
and im sure you should be able deduce that
so wtf, Zen?

I wasn't talking about Riddle at all with this. I'm not sure how you got that from my question... I was refering to your post that you quoted to Riddle. The reasoning you gave to him was:

i asked earlier
what was the point of this question
why did u never follow up
and also
why did you only ask me

Which I now see what you mean, but what I was saying is that you gave this reasoning and wondered why you di not give this reasoning:

u don't find him scummy
but u want him to shoot
aka what we should be trying
to force scum to do

Which I assumed was your reasoning when you voted for Chibo because of your #107. I didn't think Chibo's question toward you was scummy and I thought when you quoted this that was the reasoning you were giving to Riddle. But I misunderstood the first quote and thought your reasoning was because of the question itself.

 

[Xivii]

@Tanny: I see.

Also I don't think Chuckie ever offered hand holding.

 

[Xivii]

I was saying that the people on the wagon may need to be scrutinized. Though, without the vote system I can't tell how suspicious people are of him, so I don't know how important it is.

Why do you think the people on his wagon that doesn't exist need to be scrutinized if you don't think he is town?

 

[Xivii]

EBWOP: I'm not understanding your thought proccess behind people questioning/pressuring him as a bad thing.

 

[Omni]

What? How could I see no other reason if there is none? He showed no reason for asking you.

what i mean is you assuming that he is a scum trying to fake-question a scumbuddy
i dont understand why that was the only conclusion u were able to draw
when there are plenty

That's generally what votes mean. You vote someone when you think they are scummy. You stated you had reasoning for voting him. So I'm not really jumping the gun.

you are
voting doesn't necessarily mean you find someone scum (which you claimed i did)
and you know voting can be used for many reasons outside of calling people out on being scummy
like bandwagoning and pressuring
and my reasoning for voting him should have been clear
i asked him two questions in which he never responded and then i voted him
very common pressure vote

What I'm saying is that you made it seem like it should have been obvious as to why you were voting Chibo. But then gave a reason that was not obvious at all. I'm simply saying that your response to Riddle was like you've explained your thoughts but you didn't really.

i was assuming i was dealing with veteran mafia players who can see what a pressure/stop being inactive vote looks like

I really don't think you get what I'm saying. No one can read your mind. You never pointed out that you felt Chibo was scummy for the post you quoted.

so you misunderstod. that's fine.

Which I assumed was your reasoning when you voted for Chibo because of your #107. I didn't think Chibo's question toward you was scummy and I thought when you quoted this that was the reasoning you were giving to Riddle. But I misunderstood the first quote and thought your reasoning was because of the question itself.

ah, okay
yea, i voted Chibo cuz i was tired of him not answering

anyway, that aside what are your thoughts on Chibo so far

 

[Swiss]

Name one game where we haven't proclaimed from the mountains that we think you to be scum.

Name me a game you managed to get me lynched

It's cool that you think you're awesome and all, but you're
1. not responding to my claims,
2. not giving me any reason to believe you're town

So if you won't even give me the time of the day to respond to my posts you might as well be confirmed scum.

Seriously, "my posts are legit as scum." How ******** are you? I know you know how to play scum. Why would you think I'd be so intent in making you respond to stuff if I didn't think that?

Scrub

What more do you want? I have literally no time online, and the time I DO have you're making me use trolling you or explaining that I only have enough time for a few sentences STOPPING me from adding in legit MLGPRO content.

U mad bro?



Swiss info - Chuckie you two should know this. ahigh% of the time I ask questions, it's not the answer as such I'm interested in. I don't follow stuff up if I don't need to.

But as Omni said it's just 'weird' as opposed to scummy. Anyway last time I was accused of this I was town (Castlevania). As scum I cover my tracks more. Too pro.



Is an entire post defending myself with no real content a scum tell? Lets hope it's awkward.

 

[Swiss]

And I think Tan is scum.

Try not to shoot her before I get back.

 

[CT Chia]

...because currently I don't understand your intentions for wanting Swiss to shoot/die if you don't find him scummy... that is, unless you wanted to out him as something else? U scum? Can you elaborate on #84 a bit more plz then?

The way he handled the whole joke from Skype was really awkward. He could have easily played it off as a joke, which he still sort of it, but not really all the way, and it's incredibly loaded with wifom. Just read back to his earlier posts in the day about it, and I would rather not keep that wifom floating in place. We'll never know if he can kill or not if he keeps the act up, so we put him in the situation to either shoot or be shot.

So pretty much I want to clear up his ability as a gunslinger sooner than later to get rid of the questionable doubt I'm sure some of us have (I know I do), and it potentially helps rid town of a hazard. Either he's scummy in this whole mess and we control his NK + put cool down on the scum killer, or he's town and he add cooldown to his brash play. I know I don't want someone like him (needlessly aggressive) having the ability to shoot at the start of any day, it just somewhat prevents him from being a liability.

 

[vanderzant]

And I think Tan is scum.

Try not to shoot her before I get back.

Look I just said you play had been weird so far. I said some things about your meta. And said I'd be fine if someone shot you at this stage (really early too btw).

And you went into swiss troll mode. Or maybe you weren't even trolling, you just were overreacting hardcore. As if me finding your weird posts scummy in the slightest is total blasphemy.

Like, I understand if you don't have a laptop or whatever.

But when you troll me I feel the need to respond to whatever exaggerated banter you say.

I don't care that much, and am not mad, and am not even that sure of your alignment. I just think you need more content, and expect that when you can post that you will.

Name me a game you managed to get me lynched

Well you've never gotten me lynched before.

Ever.

Spoiler

Newbie 7 obv doesn't count because we were both town, and cos of Cello lol.

 

[Chuckie]

^ Wrong acc sorry

@Tan: I said let's be friends in my first post because I didn't really feel a need to ask a question as I'm familiar with your play enough as it is. I didn't mean it as in we should blindly trust each other. I'd probably rather wait for a scum flip or at least a day before agreeing to that,

I've never actually hand held except for when I've been about 90% sure they are town (i.e. Zen/MK in Villains mafia). Dunno about Kat.

 

[Tandora]

And I think Tan is scum.

Try not to shoot her before I get back.

See, Swiss saying I'm scum seems like a town thing because he always sees me as scum. But he's really not pushing the issue at all.

^ Wrong acc sorry

@Tan: I said let's be friends in my first post because I didn't really feel a need to ask a question as I'm familiar with your play enough as it is. I didn't mean it as in we should blindly trust each other. I'd probably rather wait for a scum flip or at least a day before agreeing to that,

I've never actually hand held except for when I've been about 90% sure they are town (i.e. Zen/MK in Villains mafia). Dunno about Kat.

Yeah, I realized my misunderstanding of your intent as I was reading today. It's part of the reason that I'm only an okay player because I read something and interpret it as something else.

 

[Ronike]

Sorry I'm not here, I had to watch my siblings and my moms dog these last few days, plus I got laden down with hw and work, plus v-day. So yeah, I've been reading, but havent been in the right mindset and I hate posting in games on my phone. [/johns]

So yeah, anyways, hand-holding is fine, but clearing someone because they do it because "they wouldn't tarnish their townie rep"? W/e tan, you Wanna go that route d1 go for it, but I better not see you carrying it too far.

The return of troll Swiss makes me feel a bit better, but I still got my eye on you man.

Zen, chill out on omni man. If he wants to post like that, why not? Posting like that just means you have to read a bit more carefully, which means it'll stick with you a bit longer, so what's wrong with that ? And before you say you can't read it again, I call bs. You obviously have a good enough reading ability, you're on a forum, and I would hope you have the logic necessary as well since you are playing a game of logic. So stop *****in man, or I'm gonna start thinkin you're just looking for an easy wagon.

 

[KevinM]

This is a complete aside but Swiss I feel as if you think not being able to be read as town or scum = good play. But in reality you're useless currently as town and doing nothing otherwise.

You're still my number one shot pick if not just to rid the garbage from the game so I can play it easier not wondering if I'm just trying to outguess someone playing for themself rather then to win it for the town.

Zen strikes me weird because he's focusing on a lot of stuff that isn't super important which is a huge red flag for me, because normally pressuring weak stuff is something a worse scum player will do.

Tan is a null read since I can't tell if she's just newish or if she doesn't know where to go without using meta from previous games.

Sup Ronike wanna yell at each other in another game .

 

[DtJ S2n]

Swiss info - Chuckie you two should know this. ahigh% of the time I ask questions, it's not the answer as such I'm interested in. I don't follow stuff up if I don't need to.

So what is it exactly that you are interested in? This is worded oddly, I'd like some clarification bro.

Tan is a null read since I can't tell if she's just newish or if she doesn't know where to go without using meta from previous games.

Is meta a bad place to start?

Happy heart day!

 

[Xivii]

Swiss when you get the chance respond to my #108.

what i mean is you assuming that he is a scum trying to fake-question a scumbuddy
i dont understand why that was the only conclusion u were able to draw
when there are plenty

I never said it was >_>. I said I saw no other reason for Swiss' questions.

ah, okay
yea, i voted Chibo cuz i was tired of him not answering

anyway, that aside what are your thoughts on Chibo so far

He's playing the same way I've seen in another game- Clueless and missing the points. He also opened up with a random question there with no follow up and has presented the same avoidence of posts. So that bit I'm not sure about but I agree that his saying that he didn't think Swiss was scummy and that he would want him shot or to shoot was scummy.

Zen, chill out on omni man. If he wants to post like that, why not? Posting like that just means you have to read a bit more carefully, which means it'll stick with you a bit longer, so what's wrong with that ? And before you say you can't read it again, I call bs. You obviously have a good enough reading ability, you're on a forum, and I would hope you have the logic necessary as well since you are playing a game of logic. So stop *****in man, or I'm gonna start thinkin you're just looking for an easy wagon.

I'm not sure why you're calling me this when I just said it was fine ( #146). How would it be looking for an easy wagon when I never even said it was particuarly scummy. Asking someone a question isn't saying something is scummy. You ask the questions to uncover if it is scummy. I never accused him of being scum for the way he is posting.

This is a complete aside but Swiss I feel as if you think not being able to be read as town or scum = good play. But in reality you're useless currently as town and doing nothing otherwise.

You're still my number one shot pick if not just to rid the garbage from the game so I can play it easier not wondering if I'm just trying to outguess someone playing for themself rather then to win it for the town.

Zen strikes me weird because he's focusing on a lot of stuff that isn't super important which is a huge red flag for me, because normally pressuring weak stuff is something a worse scum player will do.

Tan is a null read since I can't tell if she's just newish or if she doesn't know where to go without using meta from previous games.

Sup Ronike wanna yell at each other in another game .

So then what important things should I be focusing on? Also what are your thoughts on Chibo. And you never answered me about bombs btw.