Bad Idea Mafia Vol. 3 - Ovah!?

[Nicholas1024]

Quick correction, it's not quite game over if Tan does shoot again, but it'll put us back into LYLO, with 2 clears dead (likely Omni and Nix, if he's telling the truth), which is pretty bad anyway.

 

[Nix2100]

Swiss is cleared by me, would think scum would go after him over Omni

 

[Omni]

nich asked that question earlier in the Day
it wasn't specified how mafia's NK's go
in the rules
the assassin himself specializes in daykilling
cuz he has a gun like regular townies

not that i dont wanna answer your questions but
lets wait for that CC and if it doesnt come soon
then Nich or anyone
i need you to kill Mac

@nich: ah ur right. doing my math wrong

 

[Nicholas1024]

Swiss is cleared by me, would think scum would go after him over Omni

Wouldn't actually matter much. Omni's clear as well, and with the assassin outed, cooldown timers wouldn't be a big deal. At any rate, there's not much point in discussing this scenario, let's focus on bagging the 3rd scum.

@Tand
I'd like your response ASAP please. Preferably before your cooldown expires.

 

[Nicholas1024]

@Omni
I should be able to get on before Tand's cooldown expires tomorrow (I'm done anywhere from 3-5 PM EST, but I can probably cut it a little short or just use my iphone), but it would be nice to have a backup.

 

[Omni]

cool beans
try to make it a few hours before her cool down expires
but if Mac is scum
then mafia assassin won't shoot Day 5
since it will be 1:4
so i guess it doesnt matter

 

[Swiss]

No CC. Only Gord left if I've skimmed correctly.

Omni good call on Zen, did not suspect much at all.

Assuming Omni is town and not scum assassin doing exactly what I'd do.

Sorry about my inactivity, interviews over for the week and am reading up now.

Happy with Mac as scum, would have shot him toDay anyway. But this way we can have someone else shoot Mac (in case he flips assassin) and then clear Tan as town. Happy to assume she is assassin if Mac is goon. Would find it hard to believe Nich is scum, but I have been wrong before.


1.) Omni
2.) Swiss
3.) Macman
4.) Gordito
5.) Nicholas
6.) Nix
7.) Tandora

These are confirmed/might as well be confirmed townies.

Gord can shoot Mac. If Mac is assassin then Nich must be the final scum, assuming Gord shot.

If Mac is assassin, he can quickshoot someone toDay, so we should move reasonably quickly.

Fail to see why the other scum didn't NK. As far as I know they're not stopped from doing so. Did they not consider the cop would claim? Rookie play. Barring ******** scum that makes Omni the assassin. But like I say lets gloss over that for now. Because he isn't that sadistic. So ******** scum.

Probably.


Apart from me getting Nix and Zen the wrong way round, I think we have this game won. Tan scum, Mac scum.

Let me re-read and see if Gord is town.

 

[Omni]

I really want to hear Gord say, "No CC."
but i really want someone to just
shoot Macman right now
i have faith in Gordito
his anaylsis post placed Zen as yellow
and Mac as Red
and all the right people as green

Please do.

Also what about Nich's posts seem to give off town intentions to you? And what stood out with Tandora's interactions with Omni and Chibo? You realize Tandora has proposed multiple times that she wants to shoot. So I'm not seeing how she is avoiding getting her hands dirty.

that was a response to Gordito's post.
zen seems to be psuedo-protecting protecting Tan

anyway, Goridito COULD be cop but i doubt it
tbh, Nix was in my 3-pool scum list (not including Zen)


SO

we can wait for Nix to say "no CC"
or we can just be ballers and shoot Mac now
im fine with either but prefer the former

 

[Omni]

actually... hm...

if we're working under the assumption
that Mac is goon and Tan is possible mafia assasin
then we're fine
we don't have to rush this
because Tan would be dumb to shoot to kill at this point

let's just wait for Gordito

 

[Swiss]

Do you mean wait for Gord to say No CC?

 

[Tandora]

btw, just post "no CC" if ur not cop
so we're not just waiting on nothing

we actually need to do this ASAP
because if Tan is maf assassin which is possible
we cannot let her establish her cooldown period
or the game over as soon as she can shoot again

Clearly no CC,but putting it out there anyway.

I'm not scum assassin, so please don't rush today because of me.

Wouldn't actually matter much. Omni's clear as well, and with the assassin outed, cooldown timers wouldn't be a big deal. At any rate, there's not much point in discussing this scenario, let's focus on bagging the 3rd scum.

@Tand
I'd like your response ASAP please. Preferably before your cooldown expires.

I'd say Gordito. Reasons below.

1.) Omni
2.) Swiss
3.) Macman
4.) Gordito
5.) Nicholas
6.) Nix
7.) Tandora

As stated by Swiss, the above people are town or scum assuming Nix is truthfully claiming cop. I feel Nich has been very active and protown all game, so I wouldn't peg him as scum. And finally, I know I'm town, but here's my reasons why.

Zen did buddy me once I had claimed shooter. He knew he could keep me alive and very easily manipulate me into shooting who scum wanted. It would be like having another shooter for mafia without outing the shooter.

My main motivation for wanting to shoot someone was to show I could. I felt I had tired to work with town by announcing who I wanted to shoot and why. I even pushed back the time limit I had self imposed so we could have more time to discuss what to do. When I did shoot Kuz, it was because I thought he was scum and activity had pretty much died.

 

[Omni]

Gordito hasn't been on since Tuesday.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Skimmed, I don't CC, I'll post content in a few hours. Can't concentrate with my sister here. Mac's guilty is nothing but MORE reassurance of my scum read on em. I mean, after Zen's scum flip, this was nothing but telling:

Also find it interesting that Ronike defended Omni against me and now Mac is defending me against Omni.

But that doesn't matter there's a guilty ^_^.

I think Tandora's scum atm for that horrible shot. There seemed to be much more weight toward a Nix shot and a Mac shot (and oh hey he's got a cop guilty). I'll read more into the D4 posts later on and respond accordingly.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Now that Gord's confirmed no CC, any objections against me shooting Macman, Omni?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

We can get plenty out of the Day dude. Don't be so antsy to shoot.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Unless we choke, the game should be pretty much locked down. Mac is almost certainly scum since Nix hasn't been CC'd.

Omni and Swiss are clear (unless Nix is lying). I know I'm clear. That leaves just you and Tand, and we have a misshot to burn.

 

[Omni]

shoot mac, no question
nice knowing ya Nix

actually
actually
wait

mac could be cop
but i seriously doubt it

id just shoot him for being lame
and not being active

 

[Nicholas1024]

Shoot: Macman

Just one more to go.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Macman, Mafia Goon, has been Daykilled.

Night 4 starts.

Due to me going V/LA until Sunday all Night Actions are to be sent to Xiivi until the last minute of Saturday, March 12th.

 

[Xiivi]

Nix2100, Cop, has been killed during the night. Day 5 starts!

Cooldowns: Tandora, Omni, Nicholas1024

 

[Swiss]

Omnassin
Swissaiii
Dat Gorf
Nichotown
TandorawtfareyoudoingyoumustbescumrightnotanotherKevplease


Coolio.

So we have two confirmed town and five players left. So we only actually need one town read to win. Nich is town, I might have mentioned this before.

Aweeeesome guys.

So scum is Tan or Gord. I really want it to be Tan because it means she isn't terri-bad at this game. Never had a solid read on Mentos.

So Tan shoots Gord, pushing her cooldown up another 24hrs. Then we have 24hrs grace in which to shoot Tan toMorrow if Gord is town. If both players are town then that means Nich is scum and I need to learn to play mafia, or it means Omni is scum assassin playing like a boss.

Omni how boss are you? You boss enough?

So everyone hunkerydunkerydoodaa cool with this plan yeah? More safe than a cage with a lock and some other things on it.

 

[Swiss]

Tan you can shoot Gord straight away after your cooldown btw.

No need to wait for other people.

 

[Nicholas1024]

@Swiss
That's completely correct. The other option is to have Gord shoot Tand, as I believe Gheb was doing the cooldowns such that earlier shots had theirs expire an hour or two earlier. But your way is also fine.

 

[Swiss]

I'd rather us have 24hrs leeway than less.

If Gord and Tan are both town then I'll rage quit mafia. No reason to shoot Tan first, even though she deserves it.

 

[Tandora]

Omni, are you okay with me shooting Gord?

I'm not 100% certain when my cooldown is.

 

[Omni]

I am not okay with you shooting Gord, Tandora, at this moment.

I don't want to rush today. Give me a chance to do one last reread.

 

[Swiss]

He's joking Tan.

Shoot away.

 

[Omni]

I feel slightly uneasy. It seems way too easy.

 

[Swiss]

We are clear.

Nich is town.

Tan or Gord is scum.

It's only easy because I'm soothing in my accuracy

 

[Nicholas1024]

I'm pretty sure this is locked down for town, but I'm fine with waiting a bit if Omni's uncomfortable. After all, wouldn't want to throw away a BIM town victory.

 

[Tandora]

Omni, I'm waiting. Take your time.

Gord, where are you in all this? What are your thoughts?

 

[Omni]

Tandora, why are you fine with this plan?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Hold on guys, at a buddies house. I'll be home later on tonight and set you guys straight as to why Tan is obvscum, and why Nich HAS to be scum if Tan's not. Just... wait .

 

[Omni]

Interesti ng.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Hey Gord, didn't I make the case for Tand-scum yesterday?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I skimmed that post and I have my own thought process as to why she's obvscum. If it has some of the same s*** as your case then it's probz cuz she's scum. But -__-... 1 AM. Expect something from me around that time.

 

[Omni]

nich, how positive are you that tand is scum

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

K. Making this post kinda tired, if you got any questions, ask em after I post this and I'll clarify after sleep if it sounds ******** or whatever .

There are three HUGE things that can make me think Tandora is scum- 1, is the (relatively) quick wrap up of D2 that she caused. 2, the selfish choice to DK Kuz, a relatively unpopular choice of DK's compared to Nix and Macman (hey look flipped scum). And 3: Her absolute eagerness and desire to shoot all game.

Looking at a Tandorasin view, what's the best way to wrap up the game after it's gone plenty of time without getting the most info town can get? Shooting once a general conclusion is agreed upon. Yes, it was a majority decision to have Tandora shoot. But that didn't mean she had to shoot right then and there, and I bet all of town wasn't just looking to get it over with there. We needed to get claims, info, scum picks, bla bla bla, from the shot player. An organized shooting. But, what Tandora decides to do is try to get the Day over with quick and easy. Mad scummy.

At the last vote count of shooter/shot, it was a three way tie between Mac, Kuz, and Nix as the shot player. After kuz, nich, and nix all voiced their preference of who can get shot (the only mention of kuz in any of those were nich's choices, which were Nix, th3, Tan and Macman), it seemed pretty clear, at least to me, that the shot was between either Nix or Mac. But what does Tandora do? Waste zero time in DKing Kuz. Which only her, Zen (oh hai flipped scum), and kinda Nich were on board with. It seemed like she was try'na get away with murder by doing that. And all it was, was a slip.

And finally, her extreme desire to shoot. It seems like it'd be the perfect thing for a scum assassin to do. In the assassin's head, shooting can make em seem clear, cuz hey, what are the chances of me being assassin :D?! In laments terms, it's a bad scum sin move to try their best to give a shot. It's not about being the one that shoots in order to confirm yourself as town, it's about getting the next scum pick to be the one that shoots, in order to get either a shot out of em, or a claim out of em making em unable to shoot. I can continue with what makes her try'na volunteer herself as shooter being bad, but it'd be mad repetitive and I don't wanna dwell into repeating myself.

I say Nich shoots Tandora, and if not Nich, then I guess me. It doesn't make a difference ultimately, seeing as we're both shooters, but I don't want Nich getting those 24 hours toMorrow.

 

[Omni]

so why does Nich "HAVE" to be scum
if tan flips town

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Cuz you're town,
and it's either between him and swiss,
and I'm confident in my swiss town read.
(even though I'm always wrong MLG swissai).