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yeah peach is a very neutral game heavy character in most match ups too (exluding spacies and falcon). Its more important for her than a lot of characters.
In some matchups, like Charizard or Fox (they made double lasers easier qq) Dreamland sux
Dreamland is... small ? wot
Those are two really bad habits of Peach players. D-Smash is not a safe edgeguard and there are better and safer options to finish stocks. Also, people past a certain level will start punishing you for this D-Smash on plataforms habit. Watch out.
And she gets killed a lot faster too. It's a double edge'd sword since she lives a lot longer than other characters.
My route was kinda the same. I started as ICs main and after asking to a friend for some tips ("You should learn how to wavedash LMAO") I decided to play Peach and I started winning a lot more than I was before (though I would play 1000 friendlies and only win one against someone's 3rd character, so any improvement would be huge lol).
It's kinda hard to tell right now who she is does well against because of all the changes in 3.5. I personally think she does well against everyone (I don't think she has an MUs that are worse than 50-50), you just need to know Peach fundamentals/tech and to do and not to do against the character. Peach is really good in P:M, it's just that barely anyone actually uses her and therefor her meta isn't developing quickly.
MK is still hard, C. Falcon is harder than Melee, Fox is harder than Melee, Ivysaur while less ****ty might still be annoying as ****, Zelda definitely edges Peach, Pikachu I didn't play enough but I suppose Pika wins, Marth and Roy are still complicated but feasible.
No chain grabs plus the fact that, the Fox is designed, he will never have a bad stage, while you can't say the same for Peach.
MK is much easier now in 3.5, it's still hard though I agree. I like to play the turnip camping game until he approaches like you have to do with Marth in Melee (and P:M to a lesser extent)
Hmm, this sounds awesome, as I've not yet played a Zelda on 3.5 but I did in the last version and it did not go well. Hopefully I get to play a Zelda the next time I go to a PM tourny/smashfest.
it's weird how bad the match up used to be (although still only 45-55 at best) her float game and her turnip game just got stopped so bad to Din's traps, now it's practically a reversed match up, being 55-45 in her favor. I also still agree that Mewtwo, Fox, C.Falc, And Marth's can give her a hard time, but it's still in her favor. I admite Peach because she takes effort and dedication to play, and if you are dedicated, you can win all of those match ups.
If only more people were dedicated *sigh*
Ehh maybe in pervious versions, but I think she is worth it in 3.5. That statement is definitely not biased at all, though.
Eh I think it's 50/50 like in Melee (I think it's 50/50 in Melee, idk what it actually is). It's still hard though because fox is so much faster than Peach, just like in Melee.
I definitly don't feel like it's that bad. But yeah I know, a lot of people disagree with my assessment of Peach's match ups I'm sure, but I don't care
. Whenever you face a Fox, get him to mess-up punish him for it and do not miss your edgeguards!
This can be said for facing any character, and not even just P:M but Melee as we!l. Peach does not excell in many places, but she is one of, if not the best edge-guarder in the game. If you mess up an edgeguarde you deserve everything that comes because of it.
It's always worth it. That's what makes her a Main. I know she's capable of way more than anything people've seen in P:M as of yet, And Melee I've seen pure Crazy.. But no one tries. Wish I could
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You have NO clue on what you are talking about.
He is easier to play (execution is a big part of punishing), he is faster and moves easily, he has more wide stages to run around, you don't have the chain grab to punish him for doing dumb stuff on your shield or for getting dash attacked.
Just keep playing, practicing, and trying new things. Crazyness will happen with Peach in P:M just like it did in Melee. At some point there will be an Armanda for P:M Peach, and that could be anyone.I know she's capable of way more than anything people've seen in P:M as of yet, And Melee I've seen pure Crazy.. But no one tries. Wish I could
Okay. That is your opinion. I've given my reason for why I don't think Fox is as bad as everyone says it is, I don't actually think that Peach Fox is 50/50, I've been exagerating a little bit when I've said that (Same as before when I said I don't think she has any matchups worse than 50/50). I should've explained that I was slightly exagerating, and that was my fault.
I felt like that at first, but I started dash dance wave dashing differently (I'm not sure how else to describe it, it's not faster or slower really, it's just like different timing) thanI do in Melee and she feels fast enough to me. Even still, her being slow isn't the main problem, as she really isn't that slow, but relative to, for instance, spacies, she's slow. She is fast enough, I think, for her to get to where she needs to be on most stages in most situations.
Because she has really strong points and in exchange she gets really bad characteristics ?
You don't need to be such a pessimist. Like I said, she can totally overcome her bad characteristics, it's just a matter of people getting out of that mindset and figuring out how to overcome her bad characteristics.
Characters are tools.
Well, friend, I think we have fundamentally different views of Smash and the characters in it.
Yeah, I know being a Peach main is rough. I've gotten my ass handed to me time and time again and hit "walls" and the works. It sucks, yes, it's not fun in any way. But if you can't take it maybe you shouldn't main Peach.
Her double jump is exactly the same as it is in Melee. Same with her wavedash, parasol, and float. I think the game in general is a tad more floaty in terms of physics than Melee, so maybe that is it. Or maybe it just feels like it to me.
Does it have a bad sound effect now? I've actually never listened to it before (I listen to music when I play) haha
I'm afraid that I can't help with the Wario matchup, as the amount of times I've fought a Wario is exactly 0. CG on spacies,well, it's just about timing. I've always found it difficult in Melee to get the dash off in order to get the following grab. Just practice practice practice, try to practice when you're at a tourny or smashfest with that way you can have someone else DI so you can get the timing down for it.
