Awkward Moments Mafia - Game over! Scum wins! Will a SD game ever see a town victory?

[th3kuzinator]

Thank god I finally feel good about a lynch this game. YesterDay was kind of a disaster. Glad I was still able to swing this despite my inactivity.

 

[Kantrip]

@Armor and Red Ryu: I want to know both of your thoughts on the FM wagon.

@FragMental: What do you think of kuz's case against you? Also your top 2 scumpicks, please.

 

[Fynal]

Sister wants iPad back

Will check later when/if I can

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

I have been busy and won't be available until later tonight. But Armor you're completely missing the point of me asking for people to explain the town read on Kantrip/Asdioh and the slight town read on Fragmental. I did it because I didn't feel confident in all three of those slots being town or even null town for that matter. I'll try to offer a better response latter, but I'm tied up in a couple of things at the moment.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Just know that you are completely wrong on reading my intent with regards to that post and I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.

 

[felipe_9595]

Hey gova doesnt exist now, i am Felip >: c

xD

Vote: FragMental

Just jumping on the wagon, i am on page 35.

 

[Kantrip]

felipe, why are you jumping on the wagon if you're still reading?

 

[Armor]

Just know that you are completely wrong on reading my intent with regards to that post and I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.

O_O I read the post without looking at it twice, and made huge judgments based on it. I'm terribly sorry.

@Armor and Red Ryu: I want to know both of your thoughts on the FM wagon.

Hmm... We're lynching her for being fence-sitty?
If so, I don't have any right to judge.

 

[Kantrip]

O_O I read the post without looking at it twice, and made huge judgments based on it. I'm terribly sorry.

Hmm... We're lynching her for being fence-sitty?
If so, I don't have any right to judge.

Well, reading kuz's case, are you inclined to agree or disagree? Do you believe FM is scum?

 

[th3kuzinator]

If you just think I'm getting at FM for being fence sitty then you havn't read my post.

 

[th3kuzinator]

FM is at L-1 btw. Claim it up.

 

[Kantrip]

Wait FM is at L-1? I thought it was L-2.

I want responses from Red Ryu before FragMental claims.

 

[th3kuzinator]

With FM's activity asking him to claim now is perfectly fine.

Remember when I said we need at least 24 hours to judge a claim? Thats still cutting it close and with this game's inactivity in general 48 hours is something of necessity.

 

[Asdioh]

*comes back from work*

*SUDDENLY FM WAGON*

...

*WHY?*

 

[Asdioh]

O_O I read the post without looking at it twice, and made huge judgments based on it. I'm terribly sorry.

Suddenly my confusion about that is gone.


FM's gonna come to this thread and be like


Finished reading, saw Kuz's case, looked pretty good. I had a townish read on FM for some reason, looks like it's time to reread him/her.
(TTK was female, FM is male?)

 

[FragMental]

Yay, I come back to this.

 

[FragMental]

I'm the pound/shake conundrum, VT, by the way.

 

[FragMental]

Have you played with Ryker before/had a history with playing with Ryker as Koopa did? Also, why did you ignore the main point of July's post which stated that you were being very picky in your responses to gambit and were being very reactive? You chose to comment on something that July already said was null and then made sure you acknowledged it was null instead of addressing her actual argument on you being scum.

I have. What of it?

Fair enough. Because I could see her perspective on the issue. I can easily see how one could say I'm "picky" or "non-committal." That's why I didn't feel the need to comment on it.

This heavily reeks to me. Most of the content FM has defaulted to now is very non-committal and fence-sitty. He makes the point that July should have been pushing for her main scumpick's lynch regardless of the deadline approaching but then literally avoids commenting on how that affects his view of her alignment. Not only does he put himself in a position where he can side with either view (he says he might understand what she was trying to do even though he doesn't agree with it) he ends the point by suggesting that what she did makes her looks half-hearted. He's too afraid to make a single assertion and would prefer to passively throw the idea out in the open and hope someone else capitalizes on it. This is pretty much textbook safe scum play because it puts out information others might agree with yet doesn't actually directly involve him in conflict with July.

He uses language such as I personally believe (so if someone disagrees with him he can use that as an out) and then quickly transitions off attacking July to sympathizing with her. He then talks about Ryker and pretty much does the same thing, says Ryker is null for three sentences. Pretty much the only thing useful I gained from this chunk is the last sentence which states that he doesn't think that Gova and Ryker are mates. As helpful as knowing that he doesn't think two people are scummates is, I havn't learned **** else about anything.

More like I prefer to keep my mind open and indulged in various possibilities. I'm not one to commit too strongly to an idea inherently. You probably guessed that response though, right? Considering your following post.

I stated my reads before and any alterations, as non-committal as you might think they are. Dunno what else you want and frankly it matters of little value to me.

Goes out of his way to debunk my reasoning on GovaTown but then doesn't say what he thinks about Gova. He just spoonfeeds us what the definition of WIFOM is and then says that my reasoning for why Gova being town doesn't make sense. He doesn't even make a solid inference from his reasoning. He also phrased the same question he did to July with "don't you think?" He's not getting his hands dirty AT ALL.

Notice he does the same thing again. Just says that he can see the reasoning for Gova town but doesn't comment on what he actually thinks about Gova. Why did he even need to comment on this? If it wasn't to say that his read on Gova changed then it would be to say that his read on J had, but J was already dead when he wrote this so literally this post is meaningless.

His laxness came off as town to me. Pretty sure I pointed that out later down the post.

July pretty much hits the nail on the head with this accusation. All his reads have to be dragged out of him and, even then, everything that he actually posts says absolutely nothing. Just elaborate reasoning for why he's null on everything. In response to this, FM first starts off my saying she has a point, but then tries to say she's exaggerating, but then finishes that maybe he's just remembering wrong.

I have to keep you updated on my indecisiveness, don't I? Haha.

This reeks so bad. FM tries to defend against July saying he wagoned on someone that he thought was unjustly under pressure by saying she wagoned on someone that wasn't her main scumpick under time constraints. The two are very different things and its gross that he tried to justify his actions by bringing up an entirely different scenario.

He then goes on to defend against everything else by attributing it all to his playstyle.

The entire things reeks of deflection.

Deflection against what, exactly?

So in grand total we have no scumpicks a few town reads and a lot of unknowns.

Just telling it as it is. Problem?

This is literally one of the grimiest posts I have ever seen in my history of playing mafia. Even in a post directly trying to refute July saying that he says nothing committal, he says nothing committal. As I explained above, the entire thing just reeks of fence sitting/reactive play/deflection/miscontrued arguments/hypocrisy/and overcautious play.

And this was boring to read. Yawn.

 

[Fynal]

d00d it's filepe
sup d00d

Reading fm now

€£¥€£¥££¥€£¥££¥£€ dude the one advantage of this pain in the *** iPad kb is that I get some extra symbols...

 

[FragMental]

By the way, I'm going to commit my vote to Red Ryu. I believe we can derive the most from such a flip. I still don't understand the merits of the gambit performed and overall, I'm pretty sure discussion has been diverted there the majority of the time until now.

Vote: Red Ryu

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

lololollll what s going on??????

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

daykill: Fagmental looooooooooooooooool

gget it?

 

[Kantrip]

Armor, what do you think of FM's defense against kuz's case?

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

lololollll what s going on?????? daykill: Fagmental looooooooooooooooool gget it?

This was a failed reaction test. Wanted to secure a read on Fragmental, but I've decided that using this wouldn't give me the desired results given the fact that I missed him/her 40 minutes ago. Also I doubt that I would get the response I was looking for and the result of the test would give me a null read on the slot.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

This was a failed reaction test. Wanted to secure a read on Fragmental, but I've decided that using this wouldn't give me the desired results given the fact that I missed him/her 40 minutes ago. Also I doubt that I would get the response I was looking for and the result of the test would give me a null read on the slot.

EBWOP: "Also I doubt that I would get the response I was looking for which would result in a null tell from the test."

 

[Kantrip]

What response were you looking for, if I may ask?

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Spoiler

 

[Kantrip]

Ah, I see.

I don't like FM's defense. And he claimed VT, so no help there.

I just want to hear Red Ryu's and Armor's responses to my questions.

 

[th3kuzinator]

what defense? that was just a collection of one liners that didn't answer anything I accused him of.

his vote on ryu is weird. i dont even know if he thinks ryu is scum, he just thinks that flip will yield the most connections. heck i dont even know if he thinks anyone is scum. just wants to bandwagon the next closest lynch target save himself.

i also find it strange that he doesn't understand the intention of ryker's gambit which, if he has had a history with ryker before, he should have come to expect from ryker. imo the interaction was intentionally put at odds so that the idea of a SvS connection wouldn't crop up.

still good with this lynch. want people weighing in before we end the day.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

I hate to do this, but this thread is frozen for the time being. I have to be sure of something.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Okay, false alarm. Acrostic's screenshot was of another, finished game, so no rules were broken.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

@mod & players: Sorry. Will avoid posting screenshots from now on.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I would have probably pushed your modkill had I thought you were scum. Good thing you're town, right?

Acrostic do you have a read on FM yet?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Since the screenshot posted was readily available information that could of been provided in a different manner just as easily (for example, a link), there will be no punishment.

 

[th3kuzinator]

@Mod: Can we get a votecount?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

no

10noes

 

[th3kuzinator]

Well fine. Be that way

 

[Kantrip]

I lol'd

Sword da bess mod

 

[th3kuzinator]

If by best mod you mean the worst mod then I agree hes not the best mod.

Mindgames.

 

[Sworddancer9034]

Oh look guys it's your co mod. Here, I'll give you all a vote count:

Vote Count

1. Red Ryu (2) - Armor, Fragmental
2. th3kuzinator
3. Fynal
4. Acrostic
7. Kantrip
8. FragMental (4) - th3kuzinator, Kantrip, Fynal, Felipe_9595
9. Felipe_9595
10. Armor (2) - Asdioh, Red Ryu
11. Asdioh

Not voting: Acrostic