You folks really need to chill. Stop asking me for what is obviously more than I am willing or able to give (depending on the situation) and give me something instead because I'm the only one here doing anything, ironically.
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Awkward Moments Mafia - Game over! Scum wins! Will a SD game ever see a town victory?
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A read on Kantrip and one on Armor. An actual push toward a suspect that does not involve the word inactivity.
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Fynal
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vote deadline extention
armor has a surprising lack of solidness on any opinion.
@armor: we have about 2 days to get a lynch, maybe more if we get an extention. who do you want to lynch? are you still interested in an inactive lynch?
@ryker: if it suits your plans, abilities, and schedule, could you explain why the post you quoted in 586 makes you think armor is town?
armor has a surprising lack of solidness on any opinion.
@armor: we have about 2 days to get a lynch, maybe more if we get an extention. who do you want to lynch? are you still interested in an inactive lynch?
@ryker: if it suits your plans, abilities, and schedule, could you explain why the post you quoted in 586 makes you think armor is town?
Because there isn't an obvious scum suspect at this stage yet. There IS no popular opinion. I pressured him on it with an obvious threat and he didn't fabricate something. I'm not willing to lynch him today.
Kantrip
Kantplay
Vote Deadline Extension.
The rage didn't do much to change my read on Soup. I don't know why it happened, but it doesn't push his alignment in either direction.
The rage didn't do much to change my read on Soup. I don't know why it happened, but it doesn't push his alignment in either direction.
Kantrip
Kantplay
Lean scum.
July
Smash Apprentice
I would expect it to be right but I have a town read on all the original people on your wagon, and that hasn't changed with recent developments.
July
Smash Apprentice
This sounds VERY much like you are going to push Kuz if you see him "slip up" whether you have a town read on him or not. In fact, I thought that what you gained from your gambit/not gambit/playstyle change was a stronger town read on Kuz...what happened there?
Kantrip
Kantplay
@July, does your #611 include Armor? He was one of the first votes for RF, though he removed it because it was inactivity RVS. If not, read on Armor please.
Gova
I'm goin' for it!
A backdoor for what? Your lynch? I'm not sure and I can't really judge because if I was scum I could still be sincere about wanting to lynch you if you tried to BS your way out of a lynch, which still be a backdoor for me.
0. 0 times.
@July, I don't even have a top two... I've been too busy with school to try and gauge alignments. I'm taking most posts at face value which is why I have a lot of nulls.
July
Smash Apprentice
No it doesn't, Armor has been hard to read for me. I see where Kuz is coming from with RF/Armor not being a scumteam, but if RF were lynched and flipped town Armor would deff be someone I would look into.
@Gova: Kk fair enough.
Kantrip
Kantplay
Interesting. So do you still want a Ryker lynch at this point?
July
Smash Apprentice
They don't. Your interactions with Soup don't either, but I'm really not liking Soup's part of the interactions. Waiting for his reads list to give a definite read on him.
Yes. I'd prefer not to use the deadline extension and will withdraw my request if a TK wagon can form.
July
Smash Apprentice
I would still be willing to lynch Ryker at this point, yes. I don't understand the point of his little gambit, but it fell through since FM didn't cooperate, and it looks a lot like EXACTLY what Kuz said he would do with coming in with sudden activity and say whatever to get people off his wagon.
Kantrip
Kantplay
@kuz, could you share your thoughts on Ryker's claim now?
@Soup, whenever you've got that reads essay, I'd like to see it toDay if possible.
@Soup, whenever you've got that reads essay, I'd like to see it toDay if possible.
Armor
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/offense
Man, stop ****ing reading me so well.
Then read reasoning post...
The hard callout. I need some popcorn. And then it didn't happen...
If I were to lynch right now... Soup, MAYBE kuz or TK. And, as you might've guessed, my vote's not on any of these people.
Also, I was gonna say I'd be willing to lynch gova if he continued into friday with inactivity, but he posted, so irrelevant.
Disagree. Though he is covering his ***, he was unable to post, and now he's getting back in the game as best he can, starting the game with a wagon on his ***. Ryker's actions aren't scummy.
Not sure I agree with an extension, but let's see how things develop.
Fynal
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ryker has posted a lot of reads and not a lot of arguments for them. does this bother you?
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13394900&postcount=590
@Bold: What do you mean, are you asking how hypothetical daycops should be used? If you claim the ability before using it, you get to see who most people want copped, and see potential investigatees squirm from the thought of being found guilty. If you actually were a cop.
The fact that you claimed VT before that just made it seem more suspicious, like self-preservation. I realize now that it's a gambit, and I'm not sure how I feel about that. It's something I would expect from you as either alignment, so I won't read too far into it.
@underlined: initial vote was for your collective failure to post on your hydra, but my request was ignored and you instead asked me some bull**** question about lynching Gova, I thought it was more and more suspicious. Then, your complete inactivity (which I suppose is excused, though I'm tired of people signing up for mafia games and then some "unforeseen circumstance" occurs in the first week of the game preventing them from posting) made you even more suspicious. I've spent most of this Day thinking that you planned on being inactive and letting **** happen, and then trying to use your rep to escape a lynch.
Am I positive you're scum? No, that's why I unvoted for now, and am looking to extend the deadline.
What about any of that was scummy enough to warrant a vote, even if it was for just a minute?
Aaaand I'll reread the whole thread within the next day.
@Bold: What do you mean, are you asking how hypothetical daycops should be used? If you claim the ability before using it, you get to see who most people want copped, and see potential investigatees squirm from the thought of being found guilty. If you actually were a cop.
The fact that you claimed VT before that just made it seem more suspicious, like self-preservation. I realize now that it's a gambit, and I'm not sure how I feel about that. It's something I would expect from you as either alignment, so I won't read too far into it.
@underlined: initial vote was for your collective failure to post on your hydra, but my request was ignored and you instead asked me some bull**** question about lynching Gova, I thought it was more and more suspicious. Then, your complete inactivity (which I suppose is excused, though I'm tired of people signing up for mafia games and then some "unforeseen circumstance" occurs in the first week of the game preventing them from posting) made you even more suspicious. I've spent most of this Day thinking that you planned on being inactive and letting **** happen, and then trying to use your rep to escape a lynch.
Am I positive you're scum? No, that's why I unvoted for now, and am looking to extend the deadline.
What about any of that was scummy enough to warrant a vote, even if it was for just a minute?
Aaaand I'll reread the whole thread within the next day.
Armor
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Uh... this applies to his FM and TK reads. Yes, of course it's a little suspicious. I think he's gonna pull some boss reasoning for those out of next-to nowhere, though.
If he doesn't explain at some point, it's not gonna get him anywhere, anyway.
Ma~n, sounds like you think he's scum because you salty.
Fynal
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but it already has gotten him somewhere, hasn't it? his reads-without-arguments have convinced a lot of people to get off his wagon.
just wondering, what makes you sure that he'll show some boss reasoning later?
Armor
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@Top: O_O Who is this, and can I call them dubm?
@Bottom:I thought he was at L-2, but nope. Ahaha. Was thinking his lynch was still likely, and that if he didn't change that, he'd be the likely lynch.
Answer: I was sure, now I'm not.
Fynal
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@Armor: Kantrip (#510,#527) is the most obvious case.
@Kantrip: does ryker's lack of arguements to support most of his reads (examples: his Fynal vote,his 502,his vote on TTK) bother you at all? you seem pretty sure his content is good, and kuz's refusal to let up on him is bad.
(note the conspicuous lack of reasoning/arguement/case/comment posts regarding TTK between TTK being null in 502 and TTK being voted/lynch target just now)
@Kantrip: does ryker's lack of arguements to support most of his reads (examples: his Fynal vote,his 502,his vote on TTK) bother you at all? you seem pretty sure his content is good, and kuz's refusal to let up on him is bad.
(note the conspicuous lack of reasoning/arguement/case/comment posts regarding TTK between TTK being null in 502 and TTK being voted/lynch target just now)
Kantrip
Kantplay
Fynal, I can see where you're getting scumminess from the posts you indicated. However, from what I know of Ryker, this is to be expected as either alignment. I found the inactivity more suspicious than what's happening now.
That being said, I don't like Ryker's claim gambit. I don't like how it went down (claim VT, then claim daycop afterwards, still be lying). I've looked over what happened a bit and I understand where kuz was coming from after finding out Ryker wasn't being truthful. Kuz read the gambit pretty well, or he just plain doesn't trust Ryker, or something; fact is, kuz's pressure was both warranted and correctly placed, looking back. I retract what I said earlier about the tunneling seeming suspicious.
At this point, I would be okay with a Ryker or Soupa lynch. Or a TTK if we can't get one of those.
That being said, I don't like Ryker's claim gambit. I don't like how it went down (claim VT, then claim daycop afterwards, still be lying). I've looked over what happened a bit and I understand where kuz was coming from after finding out Ryker wasn't being truthful. Kuz read the gambit pretty well, or he just plain doesn't trust Ryker, or something; fact is, kuz's pressure was both warranted and correctly placed, looking back. I retract what I said earlier about the tunneling seeming suspicious.
At this point, I would be okay with a Ryker or Soupa lynch. Or a TTK if we can't get one of those.
It's pretty obvious what it was if you half know me.
Kantrip, how does it equate to me being scum?
Kantrip, how does it equate to me being scum?
Didn't fall through, for the record.
@Fynal - I'll do that, but would have to go back through the game and I'm currently doing that in another game and doubt I'll have time to get to this one before I leave for the weekend.
Kantrip
Kantplay
It doesn't necessarily. However, I'm not against your lynch because
1. You could be scum.
2. If you were somehow telling the truth, we have a clear and various connections to go off of.
3. If you weren't, then you were lying. Not saying I agree with LAL, but it's a point, gambit or not.
Do you think we could swing a different wagon? Do you agree with either one of the other two people I listed?
1. You could be scum.
2. If you were somehow telling the truth, we have a clear and various connections to go off of.
3. If you weren't, then you were lying. Not saying I agree with LAL, but it's a point, gambit or not.
Do you think we could swing a different wagon? Do you agree with either one of the other two people I listed?
I'm obviously not telling the truth, let's get that fact straight. Now, explain why that's a point against me.
Yes and I'm voting TTK, aren't I?
Yes and I'm voting TTK, aren't I?
Kantrip
Kantplay
It's not a point against you unless one believes in LAL. I don't, but it is a point for why I'm alright with your lynch, among other factors. It doesn't really hold much weight
But yeah, the possibility of you being scum on its own is not enough for me to vote for you at this point.
I hope to understand/be explained your gambit later.
Vote:Thethirdkoopa
3 points is just so much nicer than 2
But yeah, the possibility of you being scum on its own is not enough for me to vote for you at this point.
I hope to understand/be explained your gambit later.
Vote:Thethirdkoopa
Fynal
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Im not going for a soup lynch today, his play is too souptown.
I'd be down for ryker lynch.
In this situation, where we have very little time left, very little solid content, and very few backed scumreads, we need all the input we can get. By refusing to post his reasoning, ryker isn't helping town come to a good lynch when we need a good lynch very soon. As town, he should be posting his reasoning, especially now
I'd be down for ryker lynch.
In this situation, where we have very little time left, very little solid content, and very few backed scumreads, we need all the input we can get. By refusing to post his reasoning, ryker isn't helping town come to a good lynch when we need a good lynch very soon. As town, he should be posting his reasoning, especially now