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Awkward Moments Mafia - Game over! Scum wins! Will a SD game ever see a town victory?

#HBC | Ryker

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How do they know you're town? How do we know who "they" are? If RF tries to pull some BS near deadline rather than giving us content now, I'm not going to change my read on them for it.

No idea who possible scummates may be on a RF scum flip. Possibly ttk? Fynal? Soupa?
Are you trying to leave an out to stay on a wagon despite the fact that I'm here and putting in content? Gova, is this post sincere or a backdoor?
 

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@ryker: Uhh... try reading recent posts. two maf players of your caliber posting nothing for a long time with no given reasons for inactivity, or when they do post its not comments on content
So,... inactive lynch. Absolutely no reasoning other than the slot being a liability. Thanks Fynal!
 

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Not gonna I was hesitant about the RF wagon because it seems like no scummate is stepping up to protect him, but there are a lot of quiet players and I didn't realize this before but there are a lot of new players who wouldn't know how to protect a scummate. I didn't read KvD but I could see a situation with RF scum and newb/inactive scummate.
Really? Textbook new scum from my experience is cling to your scummates and don't let go because you're scared to bus.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Thank you. RF, post useful content or be lynched toDay. there is no town motive for being totally unhelpful for no reason as players of your skill level.
You keep making this arbitrary excuse. No, it's not scummy. It's null. You know that. I know that. Why are you pushing it to be something it isn't?
 

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If RF is scum I guarantee you he told his scummate not to directly defend him so I wouldn't use that as a basis for reading RF either way. Plus connection WIFOM will just screw with your reads. He's either bussing or just not commenting at all.
Wha? You know you're the only scummate I talk to. You and WL.

Ask Gova how often I talked to him in RO when he didn't come looking for me.
 

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You are correct, I deff find them scummy regardless of RF's flip. If RF flipped town I would still look into those people; other than those people my weakest reads are Fynal and Kantrip, just from never having played with them before but I don't see RF's flip affecting those reads either. The only one I can honestly say is drawn on a connection to RF is Frag, if RF flips scum I will deff be looking at him because of that evasiveness on the RF topic.
July, quick. You have to decide who we lynch today and it can't be me. Who is it?
 

#HBC | Ryker

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@Fynal

Fair enough. I find his lack of activity and defense in general a bit strange regardless of alignment. And I can't seem to pin down any major scumreads otherwise, going back to Kuz's question. Maybe I'm just rusty after being third party so much... FM is such an indecisive fencesitter, too.

No, I don't care to engage in such a conversation because it's boring and has been drawn out for far too long in my eyes. It's making me lose interest in the game overall, so. Vote: Radical Fiction just so we can get an actual flip and go from there with something at least a bit more concrete instead of being slightly stagnant.

Since when have you liked any of my posts? Haha.

@July

Agreeable, I'm just a difficult person. I'm willing to lynch him because he's an inactive deadweight contributing nothing of value even though I'm probably guilty of something similar after this busy weekend.... I just don't get the best of vibes with this lynch for some reason, though I never have a great vibe on any D1 lynch.
No other scum picks from you and you're only boarding this wagon now? Gross.
 

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I'm not going to lynch him just because of that though. Not to mention, you said you didn't even care about my reasoning which is dumb because anyone that's town would care about my reasoning. This is dumb because of course these reads are lacking in substance because I think they're null but you took that option away from me by asking the follow up question about my inclination towards their alignment regardless of the reasoning I may have. So now that I've answered it, of course you can call me out on presentation and substantiation.
I like you much better now.
 

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HEY TK! I'm not claiming. What will you do about this?

Nobody else really stuck out as scum to me, and I wanted to get a read on you. You had done nothing to convince me you weren't scum, or that someone else was, so I wanted something out of you.

There was also this:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13357493&postcount=143
Followed immediately by this: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13357552&postcount=145

Which just looked like redirection with no real intent other than getting my mind off of you.
Really? Those two posts have nothing to do with each other. You were ignored because your post said nothing of consequence and then I moved on to question about the thing that's bothered me about your play.
 

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I know you. Do you know me?

It shouldn't be hard to figure out, really.
Yeah. I'm bored! But you're amusing now. Unvote.

Maybe you know me now~
I could get it within three guesses, but I couldn't get it on the first. I'll avoid putting my foot in my mouth and ask TK later.

Vote Fynal

Reserving the right to move my vote pending response to my posts. Reserving the right to hold my scum picks until the same time.

Kuz is town. Gova is town if his posts get content. He can post things that don't contain anything of value but still look like it. I think he genuinely has nulls though because scum reads are hard to get here. He's town too.
 

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While I'm thinking of it. Kuz, you had a reason for voting us other than inactivity. That's the feel I get. Everyone else just enjoys lynching us or doesn't like our style or both and saw the opportunity to lynch us over another inactive. What's your story Kuz?
 

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I want to know your read on Armor, Soup, TTK and FM. I also want to know why you feel Fynal is scum other than what you've said in 484 and 486 because that's not convincing in the slightest. You're pushing Fynal because he pushed you as an inactive lynch over a scummy one when pretty much everyone else on your wagon has given reason identical to that. If you're going to use that logic, FM's 437 was way grodier than any of the stuff Fynal said. If anything, I like that he's trying to be ballsy.

Your catchup also isn't helping me read you squat. I asked you to give me a coherent argument on who's scum and all you've given me is random snippets of commentary loosely tied together with god knows what. Even when voting Fynal you reserved the right to change wagons based solely off of public sentiment/reaction to your catchup. You don't really think Fyan is scum and, if you do, you're certainly not showing us as such. Just feeling out what lynch would fly with town that's not your own.

Come back with some real content or go to hell.
 

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I won't give you my Armor read right now.

Soup is dumb town.

TTK is null.

FM is town.

I'm also not going further into Fynal, or really into at all, at this juncture. Calm yourself and stop construing everything I do with scum motivation.

You've yet to get or give a coherent argument on who is scum from anything I've seen. You're asking it from me and holding a lynch over my head when it's not there yet and I'm trying to get it there in the limited time frame I have.

YOU go out there and generate your own damn content AND go to hell.
 

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:rolleyes:

Despite my construing you've yet to substantiate anything you'be said.

You aren't in the position to tell me to do squat. I've given reasoning for my scumpicks and guess what, its all there in the thread. I'm not going to regurgitate it all for you just because you can't read the thread and analyze it yourself.
 

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And you not substantiating your reads is really helping you get the lynch there. I'm holding the lynch over you because the lynch is over you. If I don't give you incentive to do things, you wouldn't do them which is one of the reasons I dislike your play. You're not being proactive. Yes, yes. You lost access to your computer. However you just said that you were going to play Soku after this. You do have free time, you're just choosing to not spend it in the thread. This game is only 13 pages, the first 3 or so being mainly RVS. This isn't Time Travelers length. You should be able to fully read the thread.
 

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Fynal, talk to me about Swiss's play here. What do you think of it seeing as you apparently don't take much from KvD.
my read refers to RF, both of you, because you are(were) one slot, i was talking to swiss because he was posting and you weren't

inactivity obviously isn't scummy on it's own. What I didn't like was your brand of inactivity.
You were occasionally posting, but when you did it never included opinions on content. see 145, 254, 85, etc. In 254 in particular, swiss obviously read something because of what he posted, but he still didn't post any content. Also the fact that the 3 posts I listed there were you just stepping in to defend yourself and not give content doesn't help.

@ryker: explain why FM is town, despite your 471?
 

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Because he doesn't know where to go here as I would expect e wouldn't. I'd expect he would've been on my wagon with no hesitation as scum and acting more sure of himself as a whole.

Yup, Swiss was complaining about there being nothing of note in the game. I believe he posted as much. That was why the Soup vote came out.
 

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Alright Ryker. Thanks for catching up and actually doing something. If you notice, I was the first to vote you. In RVS. Because you were a hydra. Your inactivity and general anti-contributing were tacked on over time, but after all your recent posts, you are null.

After all of kuz's recent posts, so is he. This major tunneling, among other factors, is making kuz look more suspicious than before. I can explain more when I have access to a computer.

On that note, I will have limited posting as my laptop's backlight is broken. I will keep up with my ipod and try to post when I can.

Unvote

Ryker does not look like scum anymore. I'll need to read again to see who does. Scum may lie in soup/the inactives. I won't dismiss ryker or kuz as possibilities either. Asdioh is obvtown.

:phone:
 

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HEY TK! I'm not claiming. What will you do about this?
HI RYKER!

You said VT somewhere else earlier, but don't mind that part of the post. Most of it was **** wording.

God all these lurkers are seriously starting to mess with my confidence on this lynch. TTK why didn't you comment on anything just now?
Honest: Stupid idea to leave multiple tabs open.

@Asdioh: I'm pretty sure I said something else somewhere that wasn't a Town read.

Don't see many other scum reads now; interesting. I've said a bit on what I think, but I'll need a read. If we're to wagon switch still, Kuz has a point, we should make use of the actual 72 hours left before a deadline lynch.

and surprisingly i got less to comment on.
 

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@TTK: what is your opinion on ryker's catchup posts, content wise?
 

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You said VT somewhere else earlier, but don't mind that part of the post. Most of it was **** wording.
I know, right?

@Asdioh: I'm pretty sure I said something else somewhere that wasn't a Town read.
What!! How can I expect to draw NKs if there isn't a unanimous town read on me??

Kuz, Pabst blue ribbon is kind of bleck
 

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Hey, maybe the fact I don't have much to catch up on shows I actually am making posts in a 24 hour time interval here. Woo.

@TTK: what is your opinion on ryker's catchup posts, content wise?
Content wise I didn't feel like there was anything that swayed me too much. It's pretty decent content still, and it's not the average opinions that keep floating through, so I might be taking a lean on Town there.

On the other hand, what interests me the most is still:

FM is town.
Yet...
No other scum picks from you and you're only boarding this wagon now? Gross.
Backdoors and no commitments.
Both replies about FM's posts. Mind an explanation Ryker?
 
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