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Hm. I use it if the opponent becomes desperate. It's worked many times when they're rushing for that revenge kill, or trying to keep the game from going into Sudden Death. Otherwise, I use it when I can accurately predict their style. Like, okay, if I use this attack, they'll dodge it and try to go for the immediate punish. For example, after Extremespeed. I've gotten to the point where I have a feel for how long its range is at various levels of damage, and so sometimes they won't expect it, other times they'll shield it. They'll often expect landing lag. If I can land in the appropriate place with minimal landing lag, I can Double Team afterwards. Things like that.
Pretty much for hard reads or for overly aggressive players. Also useful for certain characters that rely on projectiles. Just don't spam it mindlessly, because a good player will eventually bait it out and punish you.
I use Double Team for reaction-based moments. Like say there's a lot of **** going on during the match in terms of projectiles, traps, etc., use Double Team to avoid all that. That or you can use DT for dash attacks, or for a charging smash attack. Another "special" way of using DT is for when players use their ledge-attack, I counter their hit & punish them. And finally, I've done this once for Smash 4 Lucario, so I can't speak about it with much experience, but I use DT off-stage to recover against aggressive projectiles like Zelda's Dins Fire, by Reverse it if I'm facing toward the stage, or regularly when facing away from the stage.
I'd like to help answer you, but I can't.
Hopefully someone who knows about the Rosaluma MU can answer your burning question.That's. . .educational. This happens for the majority of stage left & right ledges?
I do love Uthrow -> Followup, though I've been missing it far more than I'd like (Utilt instead of Uair); Not sure if something changed with regards to the buffering system, or if my timing's just way off. Gonna have to hit the lab with that one!
They are, check out Lucario's Technical Data: Frame Data, Attributes, and More! for the damage increase info that MythTrainerInfinity gathered.
Tested it myself , all left and right ledges share this strange property.
I wouldn't be surprised if it were a side effect of the combination of the fact that things are mapped in 3D space (like why D3's Brawl spotdodge was good; not invincibility, but how far back he leans) combined with how characters turn to face the screen more now
Sup,
Been using a lot of Force Palm, but I need to use it less.
No, actually it does extend the range of moves such as d-tilt and f-tilt, learned this the 2nd day I had the game :/. (no worries
MewtwoXLucario
Oh, Little Mac is a silly matchup.
The Rosalina match up is all sorts of hard. It's never not going to be hard.
Okay, if you're consistently losing to Double Team, it's really not luck. You're playing in a way that is easily predictable, particularly when he and/or you have enough damage for DT to hurt. Shield breaks... Lucario doesn't break shields in one hit - don't overuse your shield. Advancing Force Palm is pretty weak relative to normal Force Palm, but it does have better grab range. I don't know what to tell you other than mix up what you're doing and play safer? It's sounding more like your fault than his Lucario's :/
lol thanks.
You play G&W?
Yes I do. So all that hard work on comboing? One slip up and it's down the drain.
