Q&A Ask about Pikachu! Hosted by Axe and N64! feat. dkuo!

[Captain Smuckers]

dkuo came to his senses

 

[FourStar]

i used to main pika but i main falco now

i just like talking about pika stuff
plus i still play pika a lot (when i do manage to play) both in and out of tourney

Isn't it weird going from pika and adjusting to falco? like they way they play is like on different spectrums. at least for me it is....

 

[oukd]

yea i suppose


but its not very hard to get the general idea of falco's playstyle lol

 

[FourStar]

yea i suppose


but its not very hard to get the general idea of falco's playstyle lol

I feel like fox is better to adjust to at least it is for me

 

[OliClutch117]

I feel like fox is easier to pick up on then falco because his playstyle is much closer to pikas.

 

[oukd]

wait, how so? other than their comboing (sort of) i dont see the similarities...

 

[Captain Smuckers]

they both short hop laser


well, mine both do

 

[FourStar]

Lol fox is more similar in the way that both pika and fox have strong up moves (tilt, smash and aerial). Plus i personally like fox flows better as a character

 

[OliClutch117]

I feel fox is closer because of there similar go to moves and the flow of both their combos. Also fox has a better recovery and adjusting from Pikas good recovery to Falcos really short recovery is a real bother.

 

[oukd]

hm

i thought you said pika was similar to falco <_<
if you meant fox then i agree lol

 

[OliClutch117]

Oh! Well I can see where the confusion came from regardless I like falco more than fox I just found it easier to pick up fox.

 

[FourStar]

Ok so i'm really having trouble shorthopping with fox and pika right now. idk why but any techniques to help?

 

[oukd]

practice until you dont mess up. lol no way around it

i havent tried this before but you could try to psych yourself into thinking that the jump button is really hot and that'll make you tap it a lot quicker. forgot who i heard this from

 

[OliClutch117]

I have always used the Y is on fire trick I haven't messed up in a while. I don't remember where I saw it though

 

[FourStar]

practice until you dont mess up. lol no way around it

i havent tried this before but you could try to psych yourself into thinking that the jump button is really hot and that'll make you tap it a lot quicker. forgot who i heard this from

 

[FourStar]

lol any kind of controllers better for this though?

 

[FourStar]

Like no matter matter how much i try it still does a normal jump.....

 

[OliClutch117]

No but having a newer controller never hurt anyone but no specific type will help. Also have a standard Nintendo GC controller no third party or Knock offs.

 

[FourStar]

No but having a newer controller never hurt anyone but no specific type will help. Also have a standard Nintendo GC controller no third party or Knock offs.

lol yea i have a gamestop controller cuz i can never find any GC controllers LOL

 

[Sapphire Dragon]

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/gamecube-controller

 

[OliClutch117]

http://www.amazon.com/Official-Nintendo-White-Classic-Gamecube-Controller/dp/B0017KIBAI

A little pricey but definitely worth the purchase.

 

[oukd]

yea i suggest buying used official gc controller. they're generally not very beat-up but there is a risk of terribleness so be prepared

also, i found this via lovage posting on reddit lol
http://global.rakuten.com/en/search?k&tl=200195&sid=surugaya-a-too
dunno how reliable they are tho

 

[FourStar]

alright. and i should buy more than one right?

 

[OliClutch117]

I would for a just in case.

 

[FourStar]

Alright thanks! btw where has Axe gone.....

 

[OliClutch117]

He's still kickin not really sure what happened to this thread though.

 

[FourStar]

maybe he got tired of me hahaha

 

[Captain Smuckers]

practice until you dont mess up. lol no way around it

i havent tried this before but you could try to psych yourself into thinking that the jump button is really hot and that'll make you tap it a lot quicker. forgot who i heard this from

My technique is to light my controller on fire so it's hot and I have to tap it quicker.

Seems to work pretty well

My thumb hurts a bit though


I should point out that having a brand new controller actually makes it harder to short hop consistently. With that said, go buy a new nintendo brand one

 

[FourStar]

Ok thanks!

 

[AXE 09]

I'm still here lol.

Keep in mind that in order to short hop, you need to release the x/y button before Pikachu leaves the ground. So after you press x/y, Pikachu stays on the ground for 3 frames (in a sort of crouching animation like he's getting ready to jump), and then he's airborne on frame 4. You have to release the button within those 3 frames.

I've gotten used to pressing and then releasing the button quickly, but a lot of others use the "sliding" method. They basically barely push x/y with the edge of their thumb, and then slide their thumb off of the button. You can slide your thumb downwards or to the right if you're using X (which is what I use).

Remember that Pikachu is the hardest character to shorthop with in the game (tied with Fox and a few other characters), so don't feel bad if you can't do it consistently right away. It does take practice.

 

[Strong Badam]

you have to release it within 2 frames. it checks on the last frame of jumpsquat whether or not the button is pressed.

 

[AXE 09]

Darn it Strong Bad lol. I'm trying to look cool in front of my Pikachu homies here

 

[Strong Badam]

NOT ON MY WATCH YA DON'T

 

[AXE 09]

What are you even doing on the Pika boards? Get out of here lolol

 

[V3ctorMan]

Yoshi > Pikachu

 

[OliClutch117]

So if you want to short hop is the sliding method the best way to go then?

 

[Spyro]

Hey Pikachu thread, it's been a while.

Yoshi > Pikachu

Pfff, silly Vman, we all know Pikachu is better

 

[AXE 09]

Lol screw you Vman. Pikachu > YL > Fox > Kirby > dirt > the worms inside the dirt >>> Yoshi

So if you want to short hop is the sliding method the best way to go then?

Not necessarily, but it's just a method that I know helps some players. I personally just press the button and release it, but I know plenty of others like to slide their thumb instead.

 

[Captain Smuckers]

The key to being able to short hop consistently is by trying to short hop :0. Seriously though, I guess if you feel more comfortable sliding, that's fine, but I think you should just go to practice mode and give yourself goals like:
do 5 in a row from a standing position
do 10 in a row from a standing position
do 20 etc
then try doing that again except from a dash
then eventually make sure you can shffl perfectly at least 20 times in a row, or however many you want (should be forever).

Also what the hell are you guys talking about, pikachu sucks. I guess not as much as yoshi, but certainly he is worse than popo's stool

 

[oukd]

the worms inside the dirt is like high tier though don't sleep on them

make sure you can shorthop in different scenarios btw. i remember there was a time where if i wasn't doing a running sh nair i wouldn't be able to shorthop. muscle memory is weird