steelbreakr
Smash Rookie
Guys, whats the best approach/style against space animal spam?
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Ask a quick question, get a quick answer (The Marth FAQ's)
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Thunder Of Zeus
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steelbreakr
Smash Rookie
What if they side b to the other side? Just bait it out/ predict it and try to punish?
Thunder Of Zeus
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Yoshi Kirishima
Smash Lord
Yeah you will want to Full Hop a lot more than usual.
That was a fun match to watch, I remember I saw that one a while ago. Sort of boring to watch but it was interesting XD. I <3 MikeHaze's Shieldbreakers.
That was a fun match to watch, I remember I saw that one a while ago. Sort of boring to watch but it was interesting XD. I <3 MikeHaze's Shieldbreakers.
Does Marth's Counter have any bucket-breaking properties? I know G&W's down special cancels all momentum and Fox's reflector cancels vertical momentum. It seems to me like Marth's counter would have some of those properties........
Thunder Of Zeus
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Marth's special moves do not have such properties.
LivewiresXe
Smash Hero
I know this has probably been asked but can you use Marth's counter to avoid taking knockback/damage from a C4 that's been put on you (when the Snake tries to set it off), like you can counter a Falco laser for example? I've never tried it and the thought just came to me a couple of days ago, but haven't seen it tried and don't know if it's because it's not possible, or because the timing would just be so hard or something. Stupid question yeah, but just wondering.
Thunder Of Zeus
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You can do it, but it's really stupid to try it.
You can't tell when Snake is going to set it off, for one thing. Shield is safer. Counter is laggy.
There's really no reason to counter over shield.
Yoshi Kirishima
Smash Lord
Like ToZ said, Counter is pretty much never safe. But yes you can counter explosives. However there is enough time to react between when Snake says "Now" and the actual explosion. Well ToZ, there could be a rare case, for example if the Marth as in the air or such and didn't want to risk an air dodge, but not likely.
Punishment Divine
Smash Champion
Actually, that's incorrect. Iirc DB has momentum cancelling properties, but it's pointless
Thunder Of Zeus
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LivewiresXe
Smash Hero
Thanks ToZ, I was mainly just wondering like, theoretically and stuff anyway, but yeah thanks again.
are you sure you want to play offensive against MK? That's a recipe for getting *****.
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
You have to play slightly offensive these days, MK will play defensively.
Yoshi Kirishima
Smash Lord
yesicwutudidtharp3
Hurray for you drewk333! (but more for us Marth mains! lol jk)
Hurray for you drewk333! (but more for us Marth mains! lol jk)
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
Throws are your easiest way to setup strings and kill moves, abuse them. Utility wise, Fthrow and Dthrow are your best overall. Uthrow allows possible juggle traps, Bthrow sets up potential gimps.
ViCTORiOUSViC
Smash Apprentice
why would Bthrow be a gimp setup?
i thought thats why Dthrow was better to use
i thought thats why Dthrow was better to use
Thunder Of Zeus
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Don't forget grab>release!
Marth's ground release can link into other moves against an unsuspecting opponent. Against some characters (MK, namely) aerial release combos into other moves; in Metaknight's case, it links with tipper dair, nair, tipper fair, dash attack and dolphin slash at any percent.
Against characters such as Squirtle and Ness, Marth's aerial release combos into a pivot grab, making it infinite.
Marth's grab game is great; don't ignore it.
OH! And Uthrow kills around 200%
Marth's ground release can link into other moves against an unsuspecting opponent. Against some characters (MK, namely) aerial release combos into other moves; in Metaknight's case, it links with tipper dair, nair, tipper fair, dash attack and dolphin slash at any percent.
Against characters such as Squirtle and Ness, Marth's aerial release combos into a pivot grab, making it infinite.
Marth's grab game is great; don't ignore it.
OH! And Uthrow kills around 200%
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
Actually fresh even earlier then that, and he probably did grab releases, he said he never THROWS.
Thunder Of Zeus
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When a Smash Rookie from June 2009 talks about how he doesn't use throws, I take it to mean grabs in general.
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
Actually, that makes a lot of sense lol, but remember, it's only true ~90% of the time.
magikguy
Smash Lord
mikehaze can probably take a punch... Can you?
Thunder Of Zeus
*Rumble Rumble*
To put it simply: Yes.
Dekar173
Justice Man
Playing on a stage with platforms is a must, don't be too aggressive, and don't be afraid to upB away from a scary situation (typically you want to land on the platforms, as the ICs will have more trouble grabbing you from there, eat the 10-20% that they'll deal with uair instead of the -1 stock you'll receive from being grabbed
)I'd like some clarification- is dthrow x 10 (starting at 0% on Fox and Falco) guaranteed even with DI? I'm not quite sure if my friends are just terrible at DIing out of stuff, and when I try to escape it's more or less because they're messing up the chaingrab. Please let me know :D
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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Can someone explain to me where Dancing Blades is punishable and not? It seems as if I have been able to escape DB (full side motions) by DIing down after the 2nd hit and PSing the 3rd hit and grabbing marth out of the attack.
Thunder Of Zeus
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Yell and scream your heart out. Play them on stages like Smashville or Battlefield. Platforms and loud noises are your best friends. MikeHaze wasn't just being funny when he was yelling; it was extremely distracting and provided one hell of a mindgame for his IC opponent to deal with.
F-Throw or D-Throw at lower percents. Follow up with F-Airs, Shay-Airs, D-Tilts and Dancing Blades.
At higher percents B-Throw or release.
At highest percents (180+) U-Throw for a kill
If you land hit one, then you can continue though four and it's not punishable. Your opponents must be Dancing at a slow tempo, if that's the case.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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If you land hit one, then you can continue though four and it's not punishable. Your opponents must be Dancing at a slow tempo, if that's the case.[/QUOTE]
They cannot all be unpunishable o.o Slow DB I can explain for the PS attempt, but what about the DB that ends with the 4th hit being DownB. That combination of DB is 7 hits that allow you to DI behind marth before the final hit goes and you can punish him there.
They cannot all be unpunishable o.o Slow DB I can explain for the PS attempt, but what about the DB that ends with the 4th hit being DownB. That combination of DB is 7 hits that allow you to DI behind marth before the final hit goes and you can punish him there.