The Star King
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Yeah pretty sure I'm right, only viable explanation AFAIK
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Herbert Von Karajan
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Can you edge cancel a tech in place?
mixa
Banned via Warnings
not sure what you mean
but for spikes whose knockback trajectory aren't all vertical, this could happen:
but as you can see, teching isn't necessary
but for spikes whose knockback trajectory aren't all vertical, this could happen:
but as you can see, teching isn't necessary
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Herbert Von Karajan
Smash Lord
My question is what happens if they pressed Z right before they hit the ground in that instance. I was playing with fireblaster the other day and it looked like a tech in place got edge canceled.not sure what you mean
but for spikes whose knockback trajectory aren't all vertical, this could happen:
but as you can see, teching isn't necessary
mixa
Banned via Warnings
same thing would happen
Annex
Smash Ace
Looks like they just traded and DK DI'd into the platform.
Fireblaster
Smash Lord
DK Up B'd into a sloped ground, which means it's possible he landed before getting hit. I don't know how much freedom DK has during up B, but he may have done something like crouch cancel (based on DK's damage and how far he bounced from it). Then because of this there's also really small hitstun he immediately double jumps onto the platform.not sure what you mean
but for spikes whose knockback trajectory aren't all vertical, this could happen:
but as you can see, teching isn't necessary
The Star King
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Pretty sure edge-canceled missed (or successful) tech removes all hitstun (but not momentum) anyway
mixa
Banned via Warnings
just look at it frame by frame http://gfycat.com/UnfortunateCloudyJohndory
what I said is correct
i can easily replicate it https://mediacru.sh/hQ7zOYHFfsOs
what I said is correct
i can easily replicate it https://mediacru.sh/hQ7zOYHFfsOs
Herbert Von Karajan
Smash Lord
Thanks for teching that first one; answers my question affirmatively. Plus you get a frame of invincibility
mixa
Banned via Warnings
I believe I had answered it already. I guess people need vids to believe.
Ok, I said "same thing happens". I was too in the moment and assumed everyone would know that not exactly the same happens, because you get blue frames with tech.
You don't get a frame of invincibility, you get some frames. In the instance I measured I was getting 9. I think that you could get more/less depending on the position.
edit: Yep, I managed to make DK get only one blue frame.
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Cobrevolution
Smash Master
why is my ping consistently 17-28 on Smash FU when i've been getting 1 frame (16 or less) there for over a year
and why can i not join the ****ing server without my pj64 getting an error and needing to close
and why can i not join the ****ing server without my pj64 getting an error and needing to close
Skrlx
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Bad routing. Honestly, this is probably one of Kaillera's biggest downfalls. Your experience online is way too dependent on your routing. Bad routing? GG. I could count on one hand the miles that I live from Madrush, and we get 3 frames on p2p. It's ridiculous.
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Sangoku
Smash Master
His avatar is coming from a bigger image, which I use as my wallpaper.
KeroKeroppi
Smash Champion
are you going to apex
Sangoku
Smash Master
Lol where did that come from? I still don't know if I have holidays during that time, but I probably don't. So I will most likely not be there. I'm not good or interesting to play against anyway, so I believe it's not a big loss for you.
Cobrevolution
Smash Master
it's about COMMUNITY BONDING, sangoku
don't you want to get really drunk with us and ban the entire kerashoya on your phone at 4am
don't you want to get really drunk with us and ban the entire kerashoya on your phone at 4am
KeroKeroppi
Smash Champion
Tournaments have never been about playing "good" or "interesting" people brah. They've always been about bonds. There's something special about spending time with people who love the game just as much as you do.
oh hey cobr
oh hey cobr
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Sangoku
Smash Master
I don't drink alcohol cobr. But yeah I get what you guys are saying and I'd love to go to apex one day. Hope I get the opportunity eventually.
The Star King
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cobr and I had a slight dispute about this, so I shall ask
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH4d-L7P_IY
In this video he links two high fsmashes together. Shouldn't that mean that three would be possible (for a sole fsmash shieldbreak)? And if no, why not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH4d-L7P_IY
In this video he links two high fsmashes together. Shouldn't that mean that three would be possible (for a sole fsmash shieldbreak)? And if no, why not?
asianaussie
Smash Hero
wow holy **** sangoku is actually me
The Star King
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I don't drink alchohol
you can't stop the SK is aa
don't fight it
you can't stop the SK is aa
don't fight it
asianaussie
Smash Hero
does make you sangoku by extension
The Star King
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IIRC he's some white-asian mix that sounds totally random put together
makes sense
makes sense
Sangoku
Smash Master
I don't really look like SK tbh. And I probably don't look like aa too much either I guess. Concerning the fsmash, it is possible that 2 can link but not 3 if the opponent let go on the shield button, because of the 8 frame shield drop animation. I can't test things right now, but I'll do it later if someone else doesn't do it in the mean time.
mixa
Banned via Warnings
3 f-smashes can't link because the 2nd pushes the opponent away too far for the third to reach.
but IIRC, f-smash to f-smash on shield isn't a true combo.
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hi-usmash: 20% → 36 frames of shield stun
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41 - 36 = 5
opponent can roll in 4 frames. this is why you shouldn't go for shield breaks or shield pressure when
f-smash is stale + not angled up
i hope this isn't a callout on another taser
i didn't test this right now btw, but i've done tests in the past (which is why i knew about 3 f-smashes not connecting - normal f-smash might hit as the third one)
so i could be wrong about the math
but IIRC, f-smash to f-smash on shield isn't a true combo.
hi-usmash: 20% → 36 frames of shield stun
41 - 36 = 5
opponent can roll in 4 frames. this is why you shouldn't go for shield breaks or shield pressure when
f-smash is stale + not angled up
i hope this isn't a callout on another taser
i didn't test this right now btw, but i've done tests in the past (which is why i knew about 3 f-smashes not connecting - normal f-smash might hit as the third one)
so i could be wrong about the math
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mixa
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Chaostatic
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Any advice for how to approach fox with kirby?
asianaussie
Smash Hero
you forgot the part where you just duck for about 3 hours
Chaostatic
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Yo all jokes aside, I actually think my problem is that I don't duck enough! I'm totally going to start ducking under lasers!! Thanks guys!
Cobrevolution
Smash Master
http://gfycat.com/FittingRemorsefulChrysomelid#?frameNum=61
everywhere you can DI to is a place you can be hit, right? because DI just changes where you are prior to knockback, yeah? so essentially, if puff were in that spot, my charge shot would've hit?
does that make sense?
everywhere you can DI to is a place you can be hit, right? because DI just changes where you are prior to knockback, yeah? so essentially, if puff were in that spot, my charge shot would've hit?
does that make sense?
Sangoku
Smash Master
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying and I can't watch your link, but you can DI to a place where you would be out of range (if you had been there before getting hit I mean). Since the hit is already registered it doesn't matter where you end up being. You should try to find some perfect DI TAS vid to see how far it takes you and you'll clearly see the opponent would be out of range.
Cobrevolution
Smash Master
it's hard to explain, but basically, the farthest place you can DI to = the farthest place the hitbox will connect? so in this case, after a dair, i hit puff with a charge shot, and she DI's all the way behind me IF she had been in that position after another samus daired her to that spot, for instance, would my charge shot have hit?
blahh i'm ****ing it up
blahh i'm ****ing it up
mixa
Banned via Warnings
cobr wat
draw a timeline or sth i`m lost
draw a timeline or sth i`m lost
Cobrevolution
Smash Master
see where jpuff was after she di'd? what if she were there initially, and then i fired the charge shot? would it have hit?
mixa
Banned via Warnings
hm... no... ? weird question
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this is where puff was when she got hit -- when the charged beam connected
if puff were here
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then no, the charged would not have hit because she's behind samus and the charged goes in front of samus
???
this is where puff was when she got hit -- when the charged beam connected
if puff were here
then no, the charged would not have hit because she's behind samus and the charged goes in front of samus
???
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Cobrevolution
Smash Master
then you answered my question. i know you can sorta hit the opponent when they're a bit behind you, maybe touching you, and i've had rare instances where my charge shot has hit two people, but yuh.
mixa
Banned via Warnings
huh, i didn't know that happened for the charged beam when grounded. cool beans
that has nothing to do with DI though
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