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§leepy God

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I will just say, what is everyone's beef with Ashely! Just at least have a reson, I guess you don't right. But seuiously, stop acting like she don't have a chance in hell, because she do. I guess you can't except that fact right?
 

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Actually RDK, I'd rather have a tetris block.
As would I, lol. The moveset possibilities are essentially endless.

This thread is like _the_sandman_'s a**=FAILURE!
It's not so much his thread that was a phailure....it was Sandman himself that was a phailure.

But yeah, his thread phailed too.
 

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......... Ok, moving on. Who cares what they think Sleepy, I think they couldn't have a good reson of why she can't be playable anyways. They are haters and you know, I will not say it again, unless you want me to.
 

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Because they are all ****buddies in the same club, look at Red Darkstar's sig. It's funny did you guys plan all comming in at the same time? I'm glad you put forth the group effort to downplay a characters chances but I'm not sure who the arrogant ones are.
 

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True, we were all asked to come here by one person. But Ashley has ZERO chance of being in Brawl, that's a fact. So have fun with your delusions, and prepare for dissapointment.
 

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That's because SHE HAS NO CHANCES.

Honestly, do you think the Warioware itself franchise will even get 1 rep?

Given that it would, who do you think it would've been? Wario.

They aren't going to rep a franchise with someone who isn't the flagship character. So far, you guys haven't given any reason why she DOES have a chance to make it into Brawl.

Then again, you can't make a convincing argument when any argument you make would auto-fail.
 

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Because they are all ****buddies in the same club, look at Red Darkstar's sig. It's funny did you guys plan all comming in at the same time? I'm glad you put forth the group effort to downplay a characters chances but I'm not sure who the arrogant ones are.
I see, so they don't care how great Ashley is, oh god what to do what to do. I you can't have a positive thread without people trying to take it down huh.
 

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Hope you feel good now, I'm expecting one of those lame cliche played out failure pictures now, and maybe i'll just lose all hope, ****. If she gets deconfirmed I'll move on but now I'm not gonna support a character because it's not a shoe-in. I'm not one of those bandwagon types that you ***-clowns portray. So FAIL I MUST
 

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What is this an army, just go to another thread if you don't like Ashley. Man what is wrong with you guys. What dumb *** told you she has no chance anyway?
 

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Give me one, logical, good reason why she has any chance to be in at all, and I'll go away.

And music does not affect a characters chances at all, so that is a moot point.
 

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So you cant think of any decent counter arguments so you lot just start attacking us? Seriously though all you says is: "ZoMg Shey Iz AWSO3MSZ!!! cANt yOu ACSHEPT DA fACT DAT sHEY WOOL bEY in BooLLWZ!1!!??/"
 

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I see, so they don't care how great Ashley is, oh god what to do what to do. I you can't have a positive thread without people trying to take it down huh.
That is not the point. Anyone can be playable and there are some characters that would be great in terms of movesets but will not make it due to importance.

Ask yourself again, how many reps is Warioware going to get. Then ask, how important is Ashley to the series.

How about a bet? If I am wrong about Ashley getting in, I will have I am gay in my sig for 2 weeks. If you guys lose the bet, you wear it for 2 weeks. XD

Edit: lol, I spelled lose wrong.
 

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Seriously, the Wario Ware franchise doesn't even deserve one rep, it's completely unimportant, and not at all fitting for Brawl. Wario himself deserves to be in there, so they just took a few inspirations from it to make him more unique.
 

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Hope you feel good now, I'm expecting one of those lame cliche played out failure pictures now, and maybe i'll just lose all hope, ****. If she gets deconfirmed I'll move on but now I'm not gonna support a character because it's not a shoe-in. I'm not one of those bandwagon types that you ***-clowns portray. So FAIL I MUST
Its actually funny because this is one of the things that "_the_sandman_" said a lot... and I mean a lot.

But there is usually a reason why a lot of people support a character... If anything your having a go at us for supporting popular characters because you cant think of any good reasons to support your own.

Grow up or GTFO.

(Bet they dont even know who the sandman is anyway XD).

And Mega tron that argument is extremely stupid while ours are *ta daa* not.
 

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But there is usually a reason why a lot of people support a character... If anything your having a go at us for supporting popular characters because you cant think of any good reasons to support your own.
The reason they're popular is because they have better chances.

Think much?
 

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I see your point, well becides the point that Super Smash Bros. lack females, they also lack magic users and short characters. Plus Japan favors Ashley in the top 5 most picked characters in the Warioware games. Mostly, just about every character in Smash Bros. have just about two rep. in they bout, (so they say) so why not Wario characters. And as a Wario rep. she has magic powers as a witch so why not add her.
 

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No, she doesn't have a chance in hell actually. Stop acting like she does.
Last I checked, any character can get into Brawl as long as they originated from a videogame series and they have been on a Nintendo console at least once. Ashley fulfils this requires. Characters like Master Chief don't have a chance in hell.
 

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Because for two games DK, Samus, Earthbound all had one rep. All of those series are more popular/way more popular/more important than WarioWare. WarioWare is also a complete, 100% spinoff of Mario. So in no way at all do they deserve to have more than one rep.

KumaOso, that means she meets the requirements to get in, not that she has a chance. Does Sora have a chance? How bout Mickey Mouse? The guy from Doom? No, they don't. Neither does Ashley.
 

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I see your point, well becides the point that Super Smash Bros. lack females, they also lack magic users and short characters. Plus Japan favors Ashley in the top 5 most picked characters in the Warioware games. Mostly, just about every character in Smash Bros. have just about two rep. in they bout, (so they say) so why not Wario characters. And as a Wario rep. she has magic powers as a witch so why not add her.
Those would be reasons why he would put her above other Wario ware characters but that still isnt much... considering Warioware consists of only half of the Wario series and Ashley only plays an important role for less than 1/8th of the game...

Actually the number of reps is usually based on how important the franchise is... and Wario ware certainly isn't as important as Donkey Kong...

Blarg, wasted all my argument energy alredy : P

The reason they're popular is because they have better chances.

Think much?
Its not the only reason though...

Think much?
 

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When did I say I didn't support popular characters? She has appeared in two different WarioWare games. And DK isn't a Mario spin-off?

Yeah, Mickey Mouse, Sora? What a defense, seeing your comparing third-party characters.

Grow up? I'm not the one coming in here with a gang of people trying to prove me wrong.

And your right WarioWare is a VERY unpopular franchise, no one even knows about it.

Fitting for Brawl? And the first time you played F-Zero X you were like, "OMG Captain falcon Gotz to be in da Smash Brothers."
 

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Its not the only reason though...
Never said it was. Ridley is obvious. Plus, I was talking to that Ashley n00b, lol.

This next statement is full of lose. Allow me to explain.


I see your point, well becides the point that Super Smash Bros. lack females, they also lack magic users and short characters.
Try Ness, Lucas, Mewtwo for the magic users, and try Diddy Kong, Kirby, and Pikachu for the short characters.

Plus Japan favors Ashley in the top 5 most picked characters in the Warioware games.
That makes sense, considering the games have pretty much 5 main characters.

Mostly, just about every character in Smash Bros. have just about two rep. in they bout, (so they say) so why not Wario characters. And as a Wario rep. she has magic powers as a witch so why not add her.
Because Wario's franchise doesn't need another rep.
 

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We will have to see for know on, I guess all proof is pointless without her appring in Smash Bros. first. I will look fordward to it, not than it's not the end of the world, but not having hope is worst. They can make a unique moveset for her I just know it. Well I have no real proof except for the post I posted earlier, but Dragonblood has good pointers of why she should be in to, so read his post if mines not good enough ok.
 

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When did I say I didn't support popular characters? She has appeared in two different WarioWare games. And DK isn't a Mario spin-off?

Yeah, Mickey Mouse, Sora? What a defense, seeing your comparing third-party characters.

Grow up? I'm not the one coming in here with a gang of people trying to prove me wrong.

And your right WarioWare is a VERY unpopular franchise, no one even knows about it.

Fitting for Brawl? And the first time you played F-Zero X you were like, "OMG Captain falcon Gotz to be in da Smash Brothers."
DK isn't a Mario spin-off, no.

Like I said, WarioWare is WAY less popular than the DK series and the Metroid series, yet DK just got it's second rep in the third game, and as of now Metroid only has one. So there you go, tell me how WarioWare deserves a second one.

You still haven't given me a good reason why she deserves to be in, your blind fanboyism is becoming very tiresome.
 

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. . . . .ok, Mega, the other guy made a much better arguement. F-Zero is more than just that one game especially since F-Zero was on the 64 and SNES and was represented in the orginal Smash. Yes, it was a pretty important franchise back in the day and does deserve one rep. Warioware < F-Zero and deserves one rep (Wario).

Not only does Ashley have to compete with other franchises, she has to compete with the other side characters like Mona and such. There is a reason why DK which is the 4th best selling franchise but will only have two or three (defintely at most 4) reps. It doesn't have that many important people.

Edit: Did I mention that CF is the main character in all F-Zero games?
 

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I actually consider characters like DK, Yoshi, Wario, etc. to be Mario franchise reps, but I think they made some of them rep their own "mini-franchises" so they wouldn't have a million Mario reps.
 

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It doesn't matter how populer the charcter is, Sakurai is the only one who truley disides who is Brawl matarial. I know Warioware is not the most populer game out now, but one of the most important. Don't forget, Wario outfit and attacks come from Warioware game, (well some attacks are from Wario Land), maybe she will be in the game, maybe not but my hopes are high. Just not too high to the point I kill my self, thats just crazy.
 

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I don't understand why you'd think that about DK, he's had his own series longer than Mario.
Meh, I guess you're right--but the DK character we have today wasn't really fully developed until more of the Mario games started coming out.

one of the most important. Don't forget, Wario outfit and attacks come from Warioware game
WTF? That has NO relevance whatsoever. If I was going to put Wario in, I wouldn't just give him his plain old costume. Mario and Luigi already have that. I'd give him his WW outfit, too. That doesn't mean Ashley will make it.

BTW, your argument about Ashley being voted one of the top 5 favorite WW characters fails completely. Don't you think that the one voted MOST favorite would have a better chance? Sheesh.
 

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Hey hety hey whats with the legolas bunch? xD i just go out from work to house and suddenly i find an orgy here! wassup peeps! :/ ?.

Hey Legolas, you are a cool guy. I really respect your opinion and your arguments about ashley,. i tho we agreed last time about the differences and the tastes we had. I understand that you have a campaign against ashley, and while i dont know why you try so hard to bring her down, i accept your tastes pal, so what is all the fuss?.

Its not necessary to bring the whole bunch to underline the points you already stated!. Ok, you wanted some reasons for her to be in Brawl? Dragonblood stated them very well!.
You think they lack some strong solid proof to be a good reason? you think is not good enough for your standards? hey thats fine also!.

Its very sure that some characters have just much more going for them to be selected as PC, and im talking about Ridley, but it doesnt mean we cannot wish another char that we like to enter the Brawl. You may like the pterodactil a lot, but there will be always people like me who guess what? Are not metroid fans and dont like the flying dinosaur!.


So in conclution... what you guys wanna hear? tell me.... besides some "good reasona" for ashley to be in Brawl. What we stated earlier is what we think and what we believe. If you dont like or dont agree with it, well we cant do anything for you guys then :s

In my case,, i support ashley because i really like her model and her possible moveset.... i dont give a penny if she is not Mario´s lover or DK party buddy.... the sole reason that i like teh character is enough for me to want her in Brawl!
A weak reason ? definitely... but is more than enough for me ;)

So.. i really invite you all to come here when she is deconfirmed and start the gangbanging again!

You are all welcome , really :) just chill out!
 

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Dang, my bad. I'm not a speech righter. But we can't always know what info people want to see, only a few of us have that power now.
 

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Props to this Hydde guy, the rest of you Ashley supporters should be more like him. And with that, I take my leave.

Smooth Criminal
 

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Welcome new people to the Ashley thread!

.. Wait a second, your just here to bash on a character but not really have much of a reason besides "This thread phails, LOL! SHE HAS NO CHANCES LOL!" never mind. I created a topic directed at people just like you bunch, I suggest you go read it, learn something.

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=123178

Secondly, there are more reasons why she should be in the game than you think. And no, it's not because of her song contrary to belief. I posted this earlier today, and instead of saying the exact same **** thing over and over again, I'll copy and paste the old post. You'll find this similar to what you guys are asking, only in a much proper, friendlier manner.

Oh, and because I see this coming, do not throw at me something like "I'm not going to read that wall o text lol!" because you want reasons, and I'm giving you them. If your too lazy to read my reasons, then your obviously just either being close minded or trolling.

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Sorry to interfere, but I've been reading this thread off and on to see where you guys have been going with some of these arguments. As much as I would also like Ashley to be in Brawl, I noticed some inconsistencies.
It seems to me that most of you have not too much to base your opinion on Ashley being in Brawl other then having a theme, another warioware representative and your arrogance. I've not followed the WarioWare series until lately. The question, like in the Mario series would be who is the second most popular (or recognizable) character from the series. Obviously, Luigi, since they are the Super Mario BROS.
I don't really see Ashley as being that recognizable (maybe popular)within the series, but I would love to see my point proven wrong. My questions are:
How is she that popular? (Hey, I can't even find a picture of her on Wikipedia)
Would another WarioWare character be more recognizable?
Why would the WARIOware series need another character?
How is she that popular?
Well, as we know Nintendo is a Japanese company, while she may not be so popular here, she actually is quite popular in Japan and very much liked. The Japanese prediction site included her on the front page, with many of the bigger candidates such as Ridley, King dedede, and many others (I do not have a link to it, if anyone does please post it). This should give you a clue as to how popular she is in Japan and how liked she is if she's up there with Ridley on the site.

Would another WarioWare character be more recognizable?
Certainly not. The only character that really comes close to more recognizable is Mona and maybe 9 volt, and this is only for Americans. As I have stated she is very popular in japan, and any Nintendo fan in Japan would almost immediately recognize her.

Why would the WARIOware series need another character?[
First, I'm going to start by your obvious capitalization of Wario. Because the series is called "Warioware" does not make the other characters any less significant. Last time I check, the Super MARIO series has Bowser and Peach playable. Characters that have nothing to do with the name. Okay, now for the actual question, why does the Warioware deserve the 2nd rep? First, let's look at what Nintendo did, making Wario represent his own series. This obviously means they want Waroware to stand alone as it's separate game, and get it's own attention. What better way to make it get it's own attention in Brawl than adding another character that has nothing to do with the Mario series what so ever and is only linked to Warioware? As I have stated before, Ashley is by far the most popular, especially in Japan, so she would definitely be the 2nd rep of Warioware if they were to give one.

Now, the arguments as to what she would add to Brawl. As we all know, Brawl is lacking female characters, and also lacking spell casters. Ashley happens to be a female spell caster, ding ding ding, we have a winner! Ashley would fill in spots this game lacks and do it in a unique style. With the ability to have a pet (Red) and the amount of things she can do being a witch, I guarantee you her move set will be quite different from any one else. Diversity is what makes this game so great, the ability combine multiple characters with different fighting styles is what keeps our interest and makes it fun for everyone, because everyone can pick their own character that suits them.

So really, why shouldn't Ashley be in Brawl? Importance? In my opinion (and apparently Sakurai's too, as he said he doesn't want only important characters in Brawl) importance is over-ruled by things such as what was stated above.

So here's my summary list of why she should be in:
1) Warioware is trying to represent it's own series (for sales most likely), a second rep that has nothing to do with the Mario series is perfect for this.
2) Ashley is liked enough in Japan to make the homepage of the Japanese prediction site.
3) Ashley is a spell caster, something this game really doesn't have enough of.
4) Ashley is female, again, something this game does not have enough of.
5) Although a bit of a combination of 4 and 5, Ashley will add diversity, with a unique fighting style it will certainly contribute to giving the game a larger range of different characters.

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