MegatronPwnsYou
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I'm just tired of waiting lol.
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Ashley for SSBB Thread
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Dragonblood21
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Unfortunately, we are going to have to wait a little bit longer T_T.
I really really really hope Sakurai doesn't disappoint us with just ignoring Halloween altogether...
I really really really hope Sakurai doesn't disappoint us with just ignoring Halloween altogether...
Legolastom
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http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/music/music08.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/music/music07.html
Does this explain it well enough for you?
Dragonblood21
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I believe he is just being optimisitic with his thinking.
Almost like telling himself "They can't not add her!" even though of course they can.
Her song being announced without a doubt increases her chances. Wario representing his own separate Wario Ware series increases her chances. And there are many more that also point to her have having quite a decent chance.
Lord Viper
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He will pay if he ignore Halloween! Haunted house better not be Luigi's place. It is strange that Ashley can live more than 500 years, she is a witch to remember.
MegatronPwnsYou
Smash Lord
On the K.K. Rider song, it specifically says This is the song you will hear on Smashville.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/music/music03.html
Does this explain it well enough for you?
Legolastom
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... And? It's still a theme song if anything that just confirms that music plays a much less important role than you think.
So you just showed me another song thats part of My Music... so what? Ridley has everything else going for him apart from that music... he doesn't even need that music and it certainly isnt a strong point in his defense.
Seriously try using sense in your arguments instead of just random links.
Lord Viper
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Themes are important for all character not just random music. We didn't see all the music yet, the game theme and character themes are difrent, unless they have the Shadow Mario theme and Bowser Jr got to be an AT or a background than all prouf is a dud.
§leepy God
Smash Master
All important music should be shown to only the stages that deserve it. But My Music makes it for the better, themes are themes after all.
MegatronPwnsYou
Smash Lord
Ok, because that is not EXACTLY what you just did, we have seen no other official proof of Ridley besides his song either, so contrary to what you think, Ridley has just a song also. And you can't justify what the uses of the songs are going to be unless it states it (Like KK Slider's song, it says USED FOR SMASHVILLE). Tell me where in the Ashley music page does it say," ITS GONNA BE USED FOR A RANDOM USAGE AND HAS NO REAL PURPOSE". Alot of people like to ride on the train of glory so they support a character that is a shoe-in, just so the bash the lesser without a chance. I just support this character because I personally like the game and now with her song on there, there is a general possibility that she could be playable. So you can't doubt that however downplay it as you must. You have no more conclusive evidence then Ridley so far. Oh and another thing if you look at the poll from Melee the characters with the highest votes were all incuded... Mr. Saturn was the highest for Earthbound, he had a great inclusion on Melee...
Lord Viper
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Must keep waiting, all the proof will be revield when the time is right.
MegatronPwnsYou
Smash Lord
Does anyone have the link to that Japanese site that has Ashley and a bunch of other characters predictions on there?
§leepy God
Smash Master
Can we all think positive, please. I can see Ashley playable in Brawl by the games she is in. Now she is one of the most popular character in Warioware. Many people love her micro games because it's so cool.
TheOfficialSonicFanboy
Smash Ace
Sorry to interfere, but I've been reading this thread off and on to see where you guys have been going with some of these arguments. As much as I would also like Ashley to be in Brawl, I noticed some inconsistencies.
It seems to me that most of you have not too much to base your opinion on Ashley being in Brawl other then having a theme, another warioware representative and your arrogance. I've not followed the WarioWare series until lately. The question, like in the Mario series would be who is the second most popular (or recognizable) character from the series. Obviously, Luigi, since they are the Super Mario BROS.
I don't really see Ashley as being that recognizable (maybe popular)within the series, but I would love to see my point proven wrong. My questions are:
How is she that popular? (Hey, I can't even find a picture of her on Wikipedia)
Would another WarioWare character be more recognizable?
Why would the WARIOware series need another character?
It seems to me that most of you have not too much to base your opinion on Ashley being in Brawl other then having a theme, another warioware representative and your arrogance. I've not followed the WarioWare series until lately. The question, like in the Mario series would be who is the second most popular (or recognizable) character from the series. Obviously, Luigi, since they are the Super Mario BROS.
I don't really see Ashley as being that recognizable (maybe popular)within the series, but I would love to see my point proven wrong. My questions are:
How is she that popular? (Hey, I can't even find a picture of her on Wikipedia)
Would another WarioWare character be more recognizable?
Why would the WARIOware series need another character?
Lord Viper
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Here you go.
http://ikusaba.client.jp/
I just wish more people can see why Ashley is Brawl matrial. Only people who don't want her in is because they don't like her, but who cares! Ashely will grant all haters into hell if she wanted to.
ThoraxeRMG
Smash Ace
I can see her as a AT, but not as a full fighter.
MegatronPwnsYou
Smash Lord
She is that popular because of her uniqueness, to me she stands out out of all the Wario characters, she has appeared in two different WarioWare titles, and does DONKEY KONG series need another rep?
Thanks alot.Here you go.
http://ikusaba.client.jp/
I just wish more people can see why Ashley is Brawl matrial. Only people who don't want her in is because they don't like her, but who cares! Ashely will grant all haters into hell if she wanted to.
§leepy God
Smash Master
Can Lets just ignore all the haters ok, they don't have many proofs of Ashley not being playable or why shouldn't she be playable.
ThoraxeRMG
Smash Ace
What about 9-Volt? I sure his uniqueness made him popular as well.
Lord Viper
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At first I thought that, but not many people talks about how will he fight in brawl. He will be a copy of game & watch if he was. Becides him having one of the best micro games, he hasen't been notice to fight on the battlefield. Ashley is a magic user so it's moslty possible to see her in the battle field first. 9-Volt could be in, but most people say Ashely's first.
Dragonblood21
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Glad to see you asking questions about the characters instead of jumping into conclusions as to whether or not the character should be in Brawl. This is not sarcasm, I wish there were more people who came in here asking why we think she deserves a spot rather than just stating their annoying opinion of "She shouldn't be in because I don't think so! LOL!" then leaving. I will start by answering your questions.
How is she that popular?
Well, as we know Nintendo is a Japanese company, while she may not be so popular here, she actually is quite popular in Japan and very much liked. The Japanese prediction site included her on the front page, with many of the bigger candidates such as Ridley, King dedede, and many others (I do not have a link to it, if anyone does please post it). This should give you a clue as to how popular she is in Japan and how liked she is if she's up there with Ridley on the site.
Would another WarioWare character be more recognizable?
Certainly not. The only character that really comes close to more recognizable is Mona and maybe 9 volt, and this is only for Americans. As I have stated she is very popular in japan, and any Nintendo fan in Japan would almost immediately recognize her.
Why would the WARIOware series need another character?[
First, I'm going to start by your obvious capitalization of Wario. Because the series is called "Warioware" does not make the other characters any less significant. Last time I check, the Super MARIO series has Bowser and Peach playable. Characters that have nothing to do with the name. Okay, now for the actual question, why does the Warioware deserve the 2nd rep? First, let's look at what Nintendo did, making Wario represent his own series. This obviously means they want Waroware to stand alone as it's separate game, and get it's own attention. What better way to make it get it's own attention in Brawl than adding another character that has nothing to do with the Mario series what so ever and is only linked to Warioware? As I have stated before, Ashley is by far the most popular, especially in Japan, so she would definitely be the 2nd rep of Warioware if they were to give one.
Now, the arguments as to what she would add to Brawl. As we all know, Brawl is lacking female characters, and also lacking spell casters. Ashley happens to be a female spell caster, ding ding ding, we have a winner! Ashley would fill in spots this game lacks and do it in a unique style. With the ability to have a pet (Red) and the amount of things she can do being a witch, I guarantee you her move set will be quite different from any one else. Diversity is what makes this game so great, the ability combine multiple characters with different fighting styles is what keeps our interest and makes it fun for everyone, because everyone can pick their own character that suits them.
So really, why shouldn't Ashley be in Brawl? Importance? In my opinion (and apparently Sakurai's too, as he said he doesn't want only important characters in Brawl) importance is over-ruled by things such as what was stated above.
So here's my summary list of why she should be in:
1) Warioware is trying to represent it's own series (for sales most likely), a second rep that has nothing to do with the Mario series is perfect for this.
2) Ashley is liked enough in Japan to make the homepage of the Japanese prediction site.
3) Ashley is a spell caster, something this game really doesn't have enough of.
4) Ashley is female, again, something this game does not have enough of.
5) Although a bit of a combination of 4 and 5, Ashley will add diversity, with a unique fighting style it will certainly contribute to giving the game a larger range of different characters.
So now, with all that said, Ashely for Brawl!
MegatronPwnsYou
Smash Lord
Very, nicely put...
And I looked into the future..
And I looked into the future..
Lord Viper
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Nice tongue Dragonblood, I like your style.
Edit: Ashley is going to look sweet when she attacks. Megatron, did you make this?
Edit: Ashley is going to look sweet when she attacks. Megatron, did you make this?
MegatronPwnsYou
Smash Lord
Yeah, I was looking for that site so I could add Ashley.
§leepy God
Smash Master
I like the way they made Ashley look, in her solid form she looks better.
TheOfficialSonicFanboy
Smash Ace
THANK YOU DRAGONBLOOD!
I'm glad for a very honest response to my basic questions! Very well put; now I have some logical base for why she should be in brawl! I'm so excited!
Once again, thank you!
Dragonblood21
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No problem! ^_^
I'm really excited myself! I can't wait till Halloween, I think that would be the perfect day to announce her so I can wait for the moment of truth to finally come.
Lord Viper
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Evil Ashley and with her hair down too, yes, yes, yes!!!! Meta Kight will be the ingredant to her flighing. Nice job RWB, but were was you for the whole week?
MegatronPwnsYou
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I sure hope she could be in Brawl.
MegatronPwnsYou
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Don't we all, BTW nice drawing RWB. I wonder if they have Ashley costumes in Japan.
§leepy God
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That's a good question, maybe they do, fans have everything that I didn't know that came out.
RWB
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I mostly read this thread, and played videogames. I'm not much of a posting machine. XD
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Legolastom
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I just showed you an update about something that states that there will be A LOT of random music in the game and another update showing music based off of a character where it says that its part of a stage... thus random music + Character music = Stage music.Ok, because that is not EXACTLY what you just did, we have seen no other official proof of Ridley besides his song either, so contrary to what you think, Ridley has just a song also. And you can't justify what the uses of the songs are going to be unless it states it (Like KK Slider's song, it says USED FOR SMASHVILLE). Tell me where in the Ashley music page does it say," ITS GONNA BE USED FOR A RANDOM USAGE AND HAS NO REAL PURPOSE". Alot of people like to ride on the train of glory so they support a character that is a shoe-in, just so the bash the lesser without a chance. I just support this character because I personally like the game and now with her song on there, there is a general possibility that she could be playable. So you can't doubt that however downplay it as you must. You have no more conclusive evidence then Ridley so far. Oh and another thing if you look at the poll from Melee the characters with the highest votes were all incuded... Mr. Saturn was the highest for Earthbound, he had a great inclusion on Melee...
The only evidence that the Ridley music provides is that he has a music track based off of him... nothing else, same with Ashley.
And considering that each stage is going to have around 5 random songs or recognizable songs (Considering according to you she is popular) then that would make a perfect song for the stage... and since when did characters actually have theme music anyways?
Also try using paragraphs because its hard to read without them.
Ok seriously what the hell is wrong with you? I support Ridley for many reasons and I am against Ashley for many reasons as well... so don't try and act like an *** hole.
But... it really isn't that much that she has a song on there... it really really isn't anything at all and you lot are acting like she is practically confirmed.I just support this character because I personally like the game and now with her song on there, there is a general possibility that she could be playable. So you can't doubt that however downplay it as you must. You have no more conclusive evidence then Ridley so far. Oh and another thing if you look at the poll from Melee the characters with the highest votes were all incuded... Mr. Saturn was the highest for Earthbound, he had a great inclusion on Melee...
With Ridley we have a lot to be honest.
1. Sakurai stating he wanted more Metroid characters.
2. A stronger focus on villains this time round.
3. His actual stage (And not just a random generic one of the whole series)
4. His Music... well if you accept it as that much evidence why cant we?
And thats just the actual evidence not even going to the reasons and such.
Also with Mr.Saturn even if he was that high on the poll there is a line that can be drawn between playable and not... doesn't even support her anyway.
And another point: Don't even get started on that nobody expected Pokemon trainer crap because the only reason no one expected him was because we couldn't see how he could be playable.
Another side note: Retro's are not affected by other character conditions.
Edit:
This is another example of this threads arrogance... especially this guy.Here you go.
http://ikusaba.client.jp/
I just wish more people can see why Ashley is Brawl matrial. Only people who don't want her in is because they don't like her, but who cares! Ashely will grant all haters into hell if she wanted to.
Every time I see this thread, I laugh hysterically.
I still can't believe you guys actually support someone with such nobody-ness as Ashley. Before I actually started reading some of your posts (which are fairly unsupported, and mostly contain jokes about how Ashley will cast spells on "all teh haterz"), I didn't even know who she was.
Wanting her for Brawl is like rooting for Tetris Block as a PC.
I still can't believe you guys actually support someone with such nobody-ness as Ashley. Before I actually started reading some of your posts (which are fairly unsupported, and mostly contain jokes about how Ashley will cast spells on "all teh haterz"), I didn't even know who she was.
Wanting her for Brawl is like rooting for Tetris Block as a PC.
NES n00b
Smash Master
Ashely doesn't really stand a chance guys. She is in Warioware which is not that big of a series to begin with, but she is also one of many of the side characters which makes her chances even less still.
Anyone can be made to be playable and stuff just think is it probable and the answer is no, she is not.
Anyone can be made to be playable and stuff just think is it probable and the answer is no, she is not.
Lord Viper
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*sigh* I knew this was coming.
SiD
Smash Master
Actually RDK, I'd rather have a tetris block.
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