Arizona Brawl Power Rankings and Brawl Social Thread (Updated: November 2013)

[k9.]

No its not discouraging to hear, its really a reality check for me and how people have fun/why all of us come to tourneys, im glad we had this discussion, i respect you way more.

Everyone has a different motive for coming and i respect that.

 

[DerpDaBerp]

I think something we can do to get more money through a tournament (so that the winners can essentially have more money to decide what to do with, should they want to put it into a fund) is to make sure we have room for a side event like doubles.
The people who want to go represent out of state will, as long as they pair up well, probably win these too.
Acknowledging that they will probably still win, that I will probably still lose, I would enter anyway because I'm at least being given a fair chance. -that's the key
And I usually don't enter doubles unless a particular person is there and willing to team up, but our recent desire to represent out of state would be enough for me to help out by entering regardless

 

[Yoshiken96]

Wait, wait, wait K9. When we were coming up with this idea, I don't remember ever saying that the money would just pay for the absolute top and that it would pay for the whole thing 0_o.

I thought the money would be divided between those who were earnestly wanting to go, and that it wouldn't pay for the whole thing, but just give those people enough so that they could pay the rest of the fee whatever it happened to be. Like, the player doesn't need to be the absolute top player, or even close to it. I feel that anyone who earnestly has kept themselves active in the scene, and who is very willing to go but just needs help with funds should get that help.

Thank you for the response Derp. I completely agree with you. I guess we assumed that everyone would be absolutely down with this.

However, because of this, I would like to revise the original idea. How about we keep the regular tournaments in the season the way they are, and if winners want to donate money, then they do. However, we should then set up a couple tournaments season outside of the regular 5 tournaments that are strictly for the basis of taking something like half of the pot in the end and donating it to the fund (Though, we can decide on the exact amount when the time comes). This will also help with deciding who the fund would be able to help. You come to the donation tourneys, and you will be eligible to receive fund assistance when an out-of-state big tournament occurs.

We can keep the regular tournaments the way they are though.

 

[k9.]

I said that because i thought alex said top 5-6, we didn't really say it to you, i don't why.

 

[Govikings07]

Hmmmmm i will stick with derp. Its their own responsibility to save and use their earnings or donations to do things like going out of state. Im willing to donate a bit of money at each tournament for this cause but would like a shot at what im putting in a tournament and making it my responsibility to do whatever i please with it.

 

[DerpDaBerp]

However, because of this, I would like to revise the original idea. How about we keep the regular tournaments in the season the way they are, and if winners want to donate money, then they do. However, we should then set up a couple tournaments season outside of the regular 5 tournaments that are strictly for the basis of taking something like half of the pot in the end and donating it to the fund (Though, we can decide on the exact amount when the time comes). This will also help with deciding who the fund would be able to help. You come to the donation tourneys, and you will be eligible to receive fund assistance when an out-of-state big tournament occurs.

We can keep the regular tournaments the way they are though.

I can't see anything against this. As long as the intentions for the pot are posted in the tourney's thread then that's cool.

I would still go to those special tournaments since, you know, I love you guys.

 

[KiraFlax]

Great idea kurtis I like that. Another thing is that we should have a rule that you may not be qualified for PR just from these donation tournaments alone and that these are extra. so these count for your record only if you enter two tournies of the regular season like normal.

 

[Silly Kyle]

1) I love my image for the PR

2) I also really like the idea about getting more out of state representation for Arizona. I think we will need to hash out the details regarding how it will work, but I'm totes on board. Money has been an issue for me when it comes to traveling out of state and if we started a fund that would help with gas, entry fee, etc., I would be ecstatic.

<3



Edit: Also, I had the best time of my life when I got the opportunity to compete at some nationals when I went to Texas for WHOBO 3, and California for Genesis 2. I definitely want to travel this 2012 and get my Peach on the radar even more.

 

[The Sage of Shadow: Darklink]

I don't agree since if MK is banned in some states, then I wouldn't want to go, so I wouldn't want to use my prize money for that if I am not involved. I don't think its fair to determine a purpose for money when the competition is suppose to test who wins and rewards them for their skill and effort.

I would rather us use actual funding techniques, like car washes or reselling items. A lot more money can be made that way anyway.

Using tournament money is impractical since it's not that much. If we actually banned together and thought creatively, we could make more than enough to cover the expensives while learning things on the side. Each person raising 50 dollars could equal 1000 towards this. 50 dollars each is a fair goal and not that much honestly.

Therefore, the brawl competition rewards players for their effort, and it shouldn't be forcibly taken away. And the opinion of people who usually win is more weighted than people who usually don't.

In addition, anyone who wants to go wouldn't feel bad because all of us worked to get the money together. With the old suggestion, people would feel entitled to let the top players go but I don't think it should be that way. Anyone who is active has earned enough respect to go with no strings attached. The best way to overcome this is with fundraising.
Perhaps priority can be given to the people who gave the most effort if they want to go, and that is a lot more fair.

Now we need to seriously think of ideas to fund raise. Between all of our effort and ideas, we will be able to accomplish this goal.

 

[SFA Smiley]

I don't agree since if MK is banned in some states, then I wouldn't want to go, so I wouldn't want to use my prize money for that if I am not involved. I don't think its fair to determine a purpose for money when the competition is suppose to test who wins and rewards them for their skill and effort.

I would rather us use actual funding techniques, like car washes or reselling items. A lot more money can be made that way anyway.

That makes... so much sense

lmao.

 

[Govikings07]

Chris where is that shirt making business

 

[SFA Smiley]

Tucson

10chars

 

[TommyDerMeister]

I'm not for taking money from the pot.



AZ Brawl does need to go OoS more though. I hear we're really bad.

 

[Yoshiken96]

Chris, I understand your concern, but the regular 5 tournament season is going to stay the same and no money will be taken from the pot. The fundraising tournaments will just be extra tournaments that will be conducted from time to time that are not part of the 5 tournaments. You don't need to go to these tournaments. If you miss them, it will not have any effect on the PR.

I am not saying that this is the only idea that we can incorporate either. I am up for any ideas. A car wash is a fantastic idea. There are so many things that we can do to get this money. We just need the motivation and the work-ethic to do so.

Going back to the extra fundraising tournaments idea, it has been decided that we are going to at least try it this next season, and see how it works out. It probably will not be right away in the season, because we still need to hammer out the details (and any commentary or help would be much appreciated), but we will get this thing running ASAP.

 

[moomoomamoo]

can I be cow from cow n' chicken :3

 

[Jane]

yess i'm glad you noticed in time. ask air what he wants to be!

 

[Yoshiken96]

Hey everyone, our old computer pretty much completely died, and so we decided to buy a new one (The new one is super awesome, plays games like a dream, and is crazy fast). However, it is a pain trying to restore everything back to the new computer, and so it will probably take Angela a bit more time to make the PR image. Just a heads up.

 

[KiraFlax]

Ill be Billy from billy and mandy

Also there is another problem that Moo came up with and i feel this is legit. The pot distribution being more even than how it is. when paying out to 4th place 3rd barely makes any profit and 4th just gets thier money back ussually. I thought about it and when playing for money and getting 4th place, which is an amazing accomplishment btw, thier prize is to walk out the door with exactly the same amount they came in with. not to mention they may want to eat and so they will go home with less money they started with. To walk away with less is not ever a good prize and even to walk out with the same amount isnt a good prize for this accomplishment of 4th place. I really do think 3rd and 4th should be getting more money than they are now when the entrances are low.

I really do recomend when under 20 entrances the pay out be: 40/25/20/15 Now everyone will get a good enough profit and feel like their accomplishment is what its worth.

............ sorry chris lol

 

[Jane]

Hey everyone, our old computer pretty much completely died, and so we decided to buy a new one (The new one is super awesome, plays games like a dream, and is crazy fast). However, it is a pain trying to restore everything back to the new computer, and so it will probably take Angela a bit more time to make the PR image. Just a heads up.

nice. did you guys buy a prebuilt or make one yourselves? i'm in the process of building a computer. when it's all done, it will make skyrim its betch all day long, its gonna be amazing.


anyways, updated list. all thats missing is stevo, air, and zenix.

darklink: dexter
kyle: deedee
kira: billy
k9: nigel (#1)
darkshifter: robot jones
yummy: little dog
stevo:
yoshiken: professor utonium
jane: plank
TDM: valhallen

honorable mentions list
air vault:
moo: cow
derp: hector con carne
zenix:
anjila: mojo jojo
gv7: monkey
rave: blossom


changed my mind AGAIN, lol. this time i think its final. i'm gonna be plank from ed edd n eddy.

 

[DerpDaBerp]

I'll be way dissapointed if no one chooses Johnny Bravo or Courage

For some reason I think Weasel would be good for Stevo
Fun Fact: Weasel is voiced by Michael Dorn

=

 

[Jar'd]

To take that much money away from first, I feel, isn't fair. You got fourth place, good job. It's a good placing and all, but [assuming 18 entrants] you don't deserve 27$, practically triple what you paid to get in. 50/25/15/10 more evenly rewards performance. With 10% of fourth place, you make 18$, which is your money back, and enough for food. I guess you could tweak numbers, but less than 50% for first, and more than 10% to fourth doesn't feel like an accurate distribution of the pot.

This is all, again, assuming less than 20 entrants. Everything's more up in the air for a greater attendance.

 

[DerpDaBerp]

I feel like 4th is lucky to get anything with under 20 entrants. Get better to win more, that's what 1st - 3rd did.

What did it used to be? < 20 yields like... 55/30/15 or something? I like that
> 20 and Jar'd's ratios look good too. Although if it were up to me I'd change it to 55/25/15/5, since 1st isn't losing 5% with a larger number of entrants

 

[Duff0]

wtf why are we paying out to fourth haha. if you have to pay them they get entrance fee and thats it imo

 

[The Sage of Shadow: Darklink]

Kira is being dumb. Most tournaments don't even pay out 4th place anyway (Even when they have like 40 entrants or more). I just decided to do it because I felt it would be nicer. Usually its just 60-30-10 but now it's usually like 52.5, 27, 10, 7.5. These pot distributions will not be changed. I just thought first and second can lose a bit of money (mainly first) to give 4th their entry back.

 

[TommyDerMeister]

To take that much money away from first, I feel, isn't fair. You got fourth place, good job.

wtf why are we paying out to fourth haha. if you have to pay them they get entrance fee and thats it imo

These. I don't like payout to 4th. 4th place isn't special enough to warrant getting anything back, like it's cool that someone got 4th, but that's the extent of 4th place, a cool story.

Plus, the more money that stays in the Top 3, the faster Kyle can pay me back for Genesis 2.

 

[Jane]

like it's cool that someone got 4th, but that's the extent of 4th place, a cool story.

lmfaooo, dead

 

[TommyDerMeister]

that part you quoted is easily signature worthy material.

 

[The Sage of Shadow: Darklink]

And another one of Kira's stupid suggestions gets shot down.

 

[TommyDerMeister]

looooooool

 

[SFA Smiley]

Yeah 4th should only get their money back if anything.

 

[Nike.]

Apologies to Arizona.
I went to Apex and had a few sets from that to upload, which is why I haven't uploaded anything yet.
But I'm done with that now, so I'll have everything from that Christmas smashfest up in the next day or two

Sets against K9 (Falco set and MK set), Yoshiken, Yummy, Kiraflax (3 sets), Darkshadow.

Also

Shoutouts to Silly Kyle for not going to the Tuscon Smashfest on New Years. Soooooo much trash talk this past year, and then you weren't there. Now all of Arizona knows that Tuscon's best chickened out.















<3

 

[Jane]

nice, cant wait to see.

especially the set against the sage of link: darkshadow

 

[Duff0]

wait who the eff is darkshadow

 

[SFA Smiley]

^The sage of link, where have you been?

 

[KiraFlax]

Darkshifter/Brice lolol bryce

 

[Jane]

wait who the **** is bryce? is he related to brice?

 

[Nike.]

Oh lmfao fail

Yea, with Bryce x)

 

[DerpDaBerp]

damn Kyle get ****ted on

 

[Dark Shifter]

DARKSHADOW LOL

fff you guys t(-_-t)

 

[TommyDerMeister]

yeah Kyle definitely dropped the ball that weekend. I really wanted to play you, Nike...