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Because it's not like competitive players might need to lab these characters, right? Or that TOs need people to bring setups with every character available, right?
Jun Fukuyama.
Considering the other viable options, though, it's a legitimate argument. The most likely character to get in not considering Corrin probably would be Wolf, since the other characters cut from Brawl have their own problems and Melee only has Pichu left. Compared to him, Corrin has a much more unique moveset. Sure, when looking at completely new characters it's less effective of an argument, but when considering that a large part of the fanbase would have preferred Wolf, it works.
So the lance and transforming dragon aspects are going to get ignored?
Fire Emblem have 6 characters, like pokemon, yes. But does Fire Emblem have an "emblemball" summoning lots of Fire Emblem units? Does Fire Emblem have as much content as Zelda or Mario, including Assist trophies, items and stages?
Oh no, a japanese company makes japanese characters!
I agree that Donkey Kong needs content, starting with items and assist trophies. Mother is fine, there's content, two characters... The problem is diversity. Bringing another PSI character, considering that they already took Ness' special moves for Lucas for no apparent reasons, is risky (Lucas is a very different case compared to Lucina of Dark Pit). There's potential for Masked Man and Porky, though (but still hard for Porky, as the design must be really "Smash Bros", like Captain Falcon"). And as I mention Falcon, there's definitely the moveset problem for... Every F-Zero racers. And I love F-Zero. I'm not really of fan of just making a moveset from scratch just for adding a character.
Sakurai actually acknowledge the fact that there's a lot of FE characters, but thought that he could make a fun characters, out of the "recent Nintendo characters" (as the idea behind Corrin was "adding a recent Nintendo character")
Oh no, there's 12 characters with swords in a 58 characters roster, the game is doomed!
Because now, Marth have spear-hands and wings.
As said previously, the content is not only the character selection screen. It's not much, but I'm happy to see Saki Amamiya among the assist trophies, and eager to play with the Ashley costume for exemple.
There's time before we get 46 more swordmens. Not counting all the potential non sword characters we can get in the future.
Alright. Now I have to jump straight into this again. Claiming he didn't ignore these characters with no proof that he didn't ignore them. I'm not going to bring this up as I have no proof he did ignore them, but go on.
No no no. You don't just see how well one game is doing and go "Hey. If this game is doing so well here, it might do so well everywhere." That's what I mean by Sakurai forcing Corrin on us. I get that you need to ramp up hype for Fire Emblem Fates or whatever, but you don't force Corrin on an entirely different audience than what you were aiming for. An entirely different audience where the majority of the audience most likely don't know Corrin and are hoping for someone new or someone authentic with more experience in the Smash games. And if Sakurai wanted to add something truly unique into Sm4sh, he could have done so outside of Fire Emblem characters or outside of the Swordfighter archetype.
Previously, I stated that I was a Fire Emblem fan, and I am still a Fire Emblem fan. I will buy Corrin and main them and become the best in New York. I declare it. When I made these arguments, I was looking at Corrin through the lense of someone who doesn't know what Fire Emblem is or someone who was just an average person playing Sm4sh. Sure, I'm a Fire Emblem fan, so I know exactly who Corrin is. Prince of Nohr, raised in Hoshidio. All that stuff. But, that still doesn't give any reasoning to add Corrin into Sm4sh. And even though I'm a fan of the series, I'm still against the decision, because there are already enough Fire Emblem characters in this game as it is and even more so, there are enough swordsman in the cast of characters. Going further, Roy and Cloud are two more swordsman that were added into the game, so was it really right to add a THIRD swordsman? Third time's the charm.
Also, Lucina is a bonus, and Roy was back by popular demand, instead of Dr Mario who came back because he was a costume, like Lucina.
is perfectly fine as a roster for Fire Emblem (well, maybe not for the hair color 
). Slots are slots, and definitely are there, but we are not in Pokemon's situation where everyone have a unique moveset.
I'm pretty sure going to someone's character boards and whining about their inclusion (Two of the earliest threads are this) is way more Antagonistic. If people are angry, they can take it out somewhere else instead of cluttering these boards with their nonsense.
Problem: people are pretty much always going to be pissy about Corrin's inclusion. If we don't have this thread, I'm pretty sure they'll just take it to the social thread or such, which would just result in high emotions, hurt feeling, infractions, and generally nothing good. This way, we can keep it contained to a topic.
Of course they have no idea who Corrin is because Fire Emblem Fates hasn't released outside of japan. Thats why they added him; to familiarize outside audiences about the game and potentially increase sales of it.
...Umm, so which one is it? Is Sakurai responsible or not?
Pokemon has a rounded roster of characters. Unless you're looking for Pika Libre out of Pokken Tournament there's not a lot of need to add from this.
Sakurai has always aimed toward putting Fire Emblem characters in Smash since melee and has done it with other characters so why is Corrin suddenly horrible? The number of reps? Not comparing to the last 3 games (Since Marth was supposed to be in Smash 64) , all Sakurai has done throughout Smash Wii U and all the DLC barring veterans and the ballot winner advertised *something* new.The new street fighters, FF7 Remake,Fire Emblem Fates....
The first complaint is a complete no brainer and you're suggesting we don't get any NEW characters at all which sounds crazy.The final video is yes, the assumed final DLC characters. There's so much wrong with what youre stating.
...that's very funny.
May not be popluar in the US but that doesn't mean other countries don't like them. Everyone is unique from their head to their feet.
This is valid point. About third party characters, while I agree with Sakurai when he says this:
It's still true that we have only one nintendo DLC newcomer. On the other hand, even if it would have been great to have more Nintendo characters and more DLC, I don't think that DLC must be considered as a special case. Sure, it's added after the release, but it's content for the same game nonetheless. In that regard, we still have more Nintendo newcomers than guest newcomers.
I mean, you gotta admit, the minute you saw the two families putting pressure on Corrin, somewhere in your mind, you probably thought "this is going to piss off a lot of people!" XD
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Remember when people who wanted Cloud in Smash were mocked? Cloud was seen as almost as stupid a choice as Goku, and let's be real, FF7 fans are cancer. I've seriously considered quitting, as Cloud's inclusion means the series has basically jumped the shark.
Honestly, since Smash 4 first trailer, I always think that any character will piss off people. Thaaaaat's probably thanks to
(character that I personally enjoy a lot, and honestly liked since her reveal). Even some fan favorite will annoy people: in my case, it would be Isaac, but it's an entirely personal exemple.
When hearing "big brother", I understood that it would be Corrin, so during the trailer I was saying "come on, show the female alt!".While I also thought that Cloud would be impossible, I always thought that Final Fantasy had it's place in Smash. because of the protagonist problem, I was thinking that adding Mii costumes of various NES playable classes was the best thing to do.
Snake was pretty stupid, but there was no real push from players to get Snake in Smash Bros., nor were the people (all two of them) who wanted Snake in Smash Bros. ever considered to be a bunch of raving mad scrubby noob nostalgia-blind 13yo fanboys. Cloud's inclusion feels like a slap in the face to every fan of Smash, competitive or casual.
Except that if you need to lab characters, you'll have to pay extra money for them. I have no intention of playing as Cloud, but I want to find out if his frame data really is as BS as it looks. Oh, but you can't do that if you haven't given Nintendo/Sora more money, apparently a $250 console and a $60 game aren't enough. Not to mention that your TO might be mad at you for not having every character or legal stage. So basically, these "optional" characters are a required purchase for the competitive community, for an already expensive game that most of us already lose another $10 per month/week to when we head to the monthly/weekly.
