Yeah Levi I got it, just let me know k?
Well I don't know if it was Virtua Fighter 5 or not, but I heard of one game that was originally online at 60 fps and then downgraded to 30 fps and I heard there wasn't that much lag, like it was actually quite playable. My point stands though, I'm not going to buy a game so I can play against computers all day long until I stop playing it...I'd take laggy online over no online any day. =/
And btw, if you really want to simplify Halo as being "take aim and shoot", then I can just say Smash is all about hitting people with random **** until they die. Halo is more competitive because there's more levels of skill that are involved, you can literally have MANY different levels of "professional" skill defined, whereas Smash is pretty much amateur, semi-pro, or pro. Really, it's not just about shooting people, in fact once you get down to it, actually shooting people is the least skill-requiring part of the sport.
First of all, online still isn't trustworthy thats the point, because it's commonly the people who lag and thats the problem.
And wtf, if you downgrade from 60 to 30, even that is very annoying, it doesn't seem like much, but think about it, for exmaple you're a kirby main, and you kirbycide someone, and you have 6 frames to jump after their death and live. Well this has now been changed to 3, Yes it's the same LENGTH of time, but the actual timing for the button press has changed due to frame patterns and length of frames previous to it. A really well developed (or uber pro) kirby would probably have it timed down to jumping literally the frame it happens, changing frame timing would ruin that. But really thats kinda rare, I will admit. (but I think it affects DI a bunch, but thats more specific even if it's true)
and taking laggy online is about fun games(playing games for fun), which is really all I play games for, but I enjoy good competition so it works out to play competitively.
And btw, if you really want to simplify Halo as being "take aim and shoot", then I can just say Smash is all about hitting people with random **** until they die. Halo is more competitive because there's more levels of skill that are involved, you can literally have MANY different levels of "professional" skill defined, whereas Smash is pretty much amateur, semi-pro, or pro. Really, it's not just about shooting people, in fact once you get down to it, actually shooting people is the least skill-requiring part of the sport.
Sorry, it's not just aim and shoot. It's aim and shoot before the other guy does.
And Tyler thats what it is, you do just hit the person till they die, but the methods upon which you stay alive, try to kill them, etc. Are incredibly wide spread and variable under circumstance and crucial to the game (this is one of the reasons smash is more competitive IMO than pretty much any fighter, but thats my opinion in that case)
also you realize players professional skill is set at levels by the players choosing?
Are you trying to tell me that there's literally 3 levels of smashers? So everyone is one of these. Well I'll pull 4 random players then, Me, Carl, Forward, and Ken. Now playeres may have changed, but think about it. Ken > Forward > Carl > Me. You can easily fill in new players if you don't like the variance in skill there.
Now you see how thats already more than three levels? what if I started throwing in people like Darkrain, Zhu, All that ***** do is grab etc. Just think for a second.
Also a shooting game not about shooting? oh okay thats cool. Of course theres aspects to it, my point is the game's boundaries can hardly be stretched, no one can (using smash as an exmaple) "miss a tech on a weird knockback for a back air" leading to a combo never seen before. Halo just has limits, the most you can do is find out where your enemy is, and pull a trigger and aim fast enough to kill all of them before they kill you, and even then if they're all bunched together like that, they're probably (PROBABLY I don't care nor think about halo ever) doing something wrong.
So Tyler, can you do me a favour, and rather than argue everything you like just to defend it, just let it go, or say you don't agree but don't start a debate. Because simply put when your arguement has no defending facts on your side (you simply say that Halo is more than that, rather than explain why) and your facts trying to say my point is invalid (the smash ones) all sound like they came from stupid youtube comments, or the ******** player profiles on smashwiki; Your arguements gonna be pretty invalid, and frankly just stupid.
Get some experience plz.
Edit: wtf, smashboards logged me out while writing this, god**** I hate smashboards. I just about lost this post lol