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Advanced Marth Movement (Video)

Hylian

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Taking pivots and platform cancels to the next level:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QfoA8k_erY


:).

Note: I play on a Wii with no tripping >_>. So I do this stuff a lot lol. Pay attention to the platform stuff though. It's pretty cool.

This is just me playing around with Marths movement for 3 minutes. Enjoy and discuss :).
 

VietGeek

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Yeah, my Wii is mostly on trip-free move via Ocarina too.

You had to make this replay off Ocarina or else it would desync when you sent it to someone else though, right?

Platform cancels were discovered a long time ago. By Gonzo and some guy I think. In March. Could be a forgotten technique though. xD

Silly Brawl and its scraping mechanics, lol.
 

Hylian

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Yeah, my Wii is mostly on trip-free move via Ocarina too.

You had to make this replay off Ocarina or else it would desync when you sent it to someone else though, right?

Platform cancels were discovered a long time ago. By Gonzo and some guy I think. In March. Could be a forgotten technique though. xD

Silly Brawl and its scraping mechanics, lol.
I never said anything about discovering stuff lol.

And yeah you are right about the replays.
 

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Wow, nice stuff. I can do that dash dancing, but I still have to get that pivot down. Btw, how'd you do all that platform canceling stuff? xD. New to me.
 

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It's nice to see the variations you can put on platform cancels just by changing the timing of the input of down and shield. Holding down before hitting shield causes you to land straight into a shield mid-hop on the platform, after obviously gives you a spot dodge, at the same time gives you the canceling effect.
 

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i like it. would you mind explaining them? i got most of them but yeah...
 

Hylian

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To do the melee dashdancing you need to dash the same direction twice, but cut your second dash off with a pivot into another dash. You can foxtrot around and do this whenever you want to turn around. I would reccomend practicing it. It can be hardish to always pivot perfectly.
For the platform stuff I did a few different things.

1. Isai dropping still works. You can start your dash animation and cancel it by falling through the platform. This is faster then just landing on the platform and falling through.

2. Platform cancel. There are two ways to do this. One you can hold down and shield as you are passing through the platform to go straight into your shield. The other, you can tap down as you are passing through and it will put you into your standing animation immediatly with no landing lag. If you roll the control stick from down to forward as you pass through, you will immediatly be put into your dashing animation.

3. Platform cancelled shield platform drop. You can still fall through platforms while in your shield like in melee. So you can platform cancel into a shield drop into an immediate aireal. You can also just isai drop out of a dash.

Cool things about this:

The dash dancing is really great for making people whiff moves. Almost no opponent is used to a brawl character being able to turn around right in front of them.

The platform stuff is insane. You can use it to increase your speed, range, mobility, defense, reversing bad positions ect. It is the fastest way to fair behind you when you PC then pivotdrop fair. You can really confuse people and make marth really ****ing hard to hit.

There is a ton of more uses, but I am typing on my Wii-mote haha. I will let you guys discuss that :).
 

Nica K.O

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**** its too bad the platform cancel cant be used on a stage like BF or something it would be sooo gdlk if it was good stuff man
 

Hylian

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You can use this stuff on any moving platform. Don't forget about stages like Rainbow Cruise, Delfino, ect.
 

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Interesting stuff. I can't wait to apply this to TLinks aerial game. And with everyone hopefully practicing this, Brawls metagame slowly increases :D
 

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Very intriguing stuff, Hylian (though I know you did not invent it :p). I'll have to start working on getting this consistently.
 

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Good looking out Hylian. I need to research and study this more to wrap my head around it better (I came into competitive Melee late, so this is completely new to me.)

Looks like it's time to level up!
 

Hylian

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I play Marth for fun just because I like his foxtrot so much XD.
 

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Haha, I like it. It's nice to see everything put together. And ya, I kinda forgot about the platform cancels too so it's nice to refresh memory on that.

I think one thing that you could sorta add to the whole movement thing is doing the wave-bounce(without b-sticking), and reversing the dancing blade in the air after a RAR. It's really fun when you get it right(I can hardly do it but you might have some more luck). Basically, you run forward, do your RAR so you're facing backwards, dancing blade wave-bounce in the opposite direction and quickly turn it back to the direction you ewre facing before you finish it, and it's like you retrace the path you took going back down from your jump(but doing dancing blade). If any of that made sense anyways....I'm sure someone else can explain it better.

But ya, just a little addition to the whole marth movement thing =b. Platform canceling was a nice refresher though.
 
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