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Act 3 Clear!!: Sonic Tournament Results & Discussion Thread

Holty

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Blacklisted's Might: Monthly #2
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Out of 30
4th Holty (Sonic)
Norfolk, England

Not that anyone here cares, but I'm gonna drop Sonic.
 

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Sorry, posted that as I returned from the tourney. I was just really annoyed with the MK players; they needed to use very litte skill to win and I'm pretty sure they didn't know much about any of their matchups. One said "Don't worry, Oli, you'll get good someday" after beating me in a set - and yeah, he was being serious lol. The top three places were taken by two MK's and a Falco, with the Falco placing second.

About dropping Sonic...yeah, let's just forget that ;) I'm gonna pick up G&W as a secondary that I can rely on if needed...and I'll try to learn anything else I can on the MK matchup.

EDIT: I just found out that my cousin picked up MK not too long ago...they're rising...the numbers are rising I tell you! :p
 

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Only top tier I'd think of switching to is Diddy Kong. Diddy players can do some crazy ****.

Maybe I will, just to learn the matchup.

I swear!
 

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I'd consider it for the fact that he's considered MK's counter, but I don't enjoy him much.
 

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G dub gets wrecked just as hard by MK as sonic does lol.

and i wish I could play more diddys, you need to play the really good ones in order to get your nanner skills down.
 

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Whew, too excited to hold this in any longer, I don't care if it isn't uploaded on AiB yet.

Vegassmash Gameworld Weekly #26
http://allisbrawl.com/ttournament.aspx?id=8323
December 20th, 2009
Out of 17
5th - Kinzer (Sonic)

Vegassmash Gameworld Weekly #26 Amateur Bracket
http://allisbrawl.com/ttournament.aspx?id=8323
December 20th, 2009
Out of 9
2nd - Kinzer (Sonic/Jigglypuff)

December 22nd edit: As of now, the link is incorrect in how it says it is the 24th weekly. It really is the 26th Gameworld weekly. That should resolve itself within due time.

Yes that's right, you're reading it correctly; I used Jigglypuff seriously in my amateur bracket. I'll explain when I get to it. I still hold true to my hedgehog brethren where it fully counts though. Now whenever Tails comes in here and posts his perspective, he will. I doubt he remembers where he placed and who exactly he played though, I know I don't without having a bracket to look at.

Let's see. I got scared when I first came to the venue. They had some sign that had "liquidating." I thought that the place was going to go out of business, which would mean no more tourney for me. D: Luckily though it's just a sale to get some merchandise out of their building. Christmas is a good time to get people to shop... I'm actually going to buy some stuff if they're having a sale. Those involve buying two working Dreamcast controllers and another Sonic scroll to put up on my wall, maybe two. I think that's it, I don't really care about getting any games since most suck, or aren't on a Wii console.

Anyway, let's see. It started off normally, expect for almost everybody being out of state for R3. I didn't expect there to be much, but it turns out we had a normal amount of entrants. Of course if nobody went OoS that number would've been bigger, but that's fine. Regardless of everybody OoS, the competition was still just as fierce.

...Okay maybe not. You know how I am, always downplaying myself, but it's true. I am surprised I got 5th until I AIMed one of the TOs and got her to tell me how many entrants there were, and were exactly I placed. I knew I got 2nd in amateurs by the end of the day, bu seriously? 5th out of 17? Sheyeah boi!

Anyway, as far as I can remember, I played a helluva lot of different people, and a helluva lot of them I played constantly because of the lack of sufficient entrants. V_V

I did worse against Trendsetter (MK) this time around than usual. I'm disappointed in that, and I wish I knew why I did worse, and still getting nowhere close to beating him, but I don't know...

But again, This wasn't a complete failure. I defeated Hino, who for the longest time has been taking me out everytime we've met since he's gotten better. I wasn't going to have anymore of that, I want to get somewhere, and somewhere I got! This is in the normal bracket, it's a different story in amateurs, which again I'll get to when it comes around.

I am embarrassed to say I lost to a Ganon. If it means anything, I won one match, and this Ganon is a good friend of Tails', so he was more conditioned to playing Sonic than I was playing against Ganon. This guy also actually mains Ganon, no beating around the bush with Kirby/ Donkey Kong/ Pit/ MK like Trendsetter does (although his Kirby and MK are legit (so is his Ganon but meh...), and DK/ Pit are this Ganon's legit secondaries(not main/s!)), so it was a very awkward battle for being inexperienced against a real Ganon's potential. Now please don't give me too much crap about this, it's not a 100:0 matchup for Ganon, so it is possible a top Sonic can still lose to a top of the metagame Ganon. At least when I spoke to Tails, he says that in total, he has a positive record against this guys' Ganon, including friendlies/seriouslies/etc. Tails is already displaying he's better at me in one field, even if it's not saying much because it is, again, Ganondorf; but still. Im' still working on perfecting my Sonic as you can see, and this will be motivation for me to get better... -_-

I defeated a couple of people who are new to Vegasmash's roster. Like I said, without looking at the bracket, I can't tell exactly who or in what order, or even what time of occurrence, but I know I won a couple of sets. Well obviously I did, again, have you seen my amazing 5th place?!

Anyway, fast-forwarding, and I promise you I can tell you more, here were I am finally playing Amateurs. I fight Hino again very early in the bracket, and I was kind of tired from having already defeating him once in a short time span, plus Too many things went wrong for me to beat him again. I know I have it in me to defeat him though, I just didn't feel like making the same effort again.

And then I have to play this Lucario player. Compared to who I have played previously, he's the worst of the pack. He's a decent player, and still a worthy Lucario player, so I had I try, or I would lose. I'm sure you all understand how one-sided this matchup is, so I still had to give it so "umpfh" if I wanted to win.

Funny thing here. This is where I counterpicked Jigglypuff. I don't know why, but somebody in the crowd requested I went Jigglypuff, and he be my "trainer" of sorts. Although I scoffed at the "trainer" offer, it seems he knew that I played some kind of a Jigglypuff when I am not using Sonic, and seeing as how I was up one match (I won the first) and how I play a decent Jigglypuff as is, I thought "why not?"

I am surprised I won that match, to be honest. Since Jigglypuff is by no means tourney viable, I expected to lose and was fully prepared to play out a 3rd match (going back to Sonic of course!). Nevermind Jigglypuff's viability in general, I am almost certain that because of Jigglypuff's terrible range, light weight, and pitiful attacks that the Jigglypuff:Lucario matchup is almost as bad, if not worse than the Sonic:Lucario Matchup. At least when I'm Sonic, I have the luxury of speed and mindgames to compensate where I fall short, but jesus; this was setting up a bigger handicap. Regardless, I tried my best to play a fine Jigglypuff, and I think well in that department, no matter how limited the character is. Of course the guy who requested I go Jigglypuff was jokingly giving me "commands" and I just went along with some of them. Even If I was Jigglypuff, I still played to win and work with what I have, so of course I had to ignore some of those commands... he just didn't have the badges. :p And since we were playing on Pokemon Stadium, transformations sometimes got in the way, so some planking went on... but since I had the lead, the planking was done on my part. Thank god nobody decided to, or could call me out on stalling, because up until the last 5 seconds of the match, the Lucario player could've went after me. In the end, he tried to attack me in those 5 seconds but he failed, and fell to his doom on the last second, and Nirvana was reached. Some people thought I was joking around when I was playing Jigglypuff, when that was only half the story. I swear to God I tried to play Jigglypuff to her fullest capabilities, and my fullest potential, and luckily enough it won the set with two matches. It's not my fault Jigglypuff has bad range on everything, including her kill moves, so I have to try to play a Sonic style with Jigglypuff! :urg: I guess as long as it worked out in the end, we can count me playing Amateur bracket and getting 2nd palce with Sonic/Jigglypuff, right? :laugh:

Let's see. After that happened, I lost my over the pants anal virginity. V_V Apparently somebody was so happy I won with Jigglypuff they decided to **** me up the butt Charizard. If not for how close I came to losing, That alone will be a remainder of why I must continue to use Sonic, and Sonic only. Sorry Jigglypuff mains, I will salute you for playing her, but as for me, I will use Sonic, who is everything Jigglypuff is and then some.

I played a R.O.B. player next. First thing I did once the first match started was Down-Taunt to avoid the obvious Laser that would come my way. (This is a URL Link in-case you can't see it in this big ol' wall 'o text) The R.O.B. player asked "...Did you just taunt to avoid my laser?!" I say " Hell yeah!" I bet anybody watching was laughing in their head. Silly R.O.B. players, they all do the same things, but I guess that's what you get when you have a character who only has a few good traits, of course it all gets predictable, just like Game & Watch. I won the set, but not before I ended it all in style. We were on Rainbow Cruise, and my last stock had just been taken while he was at 43% or so. He were on the part where it went from platforms to the boat, so when I was ready to get off from the recovery platform, the arrows indicating "hurry! Move this way!" were blinking. You can bet that I took advantage of this frantic moment to grab R.O.B., pummel once, U-Throw, and try to kill him. But since he didn't have enough damage, and the stage wasn't low enough, that didn't kill him. I followed-up with an U-Air to finish the job, and surely this time while R.O.B. was going "whurrrrrrrrr" in the background, there was a hedgehog on the bow of the ship taunting "You're too slow~!"

Once that was done I played Xero. I'm sure I've all told you how he plays LOLimar. Even though I have a positive record against him, things get very Gay, so I still have to **** or get *****. Too bad this was loser's finals, because I beat him 2-0 until he reminded me "you still need to win one more." and in my head I'm going "@#$% are you kidding me?! Can't we just get this over with already-heey?!? DX" Somehow he made it to 2-2 until I decide to go to Picto and get my **** on. Delfino didn't work like I wanted to, not enough water, and he banned Japes... Funny thing, he bans Japes against everybody... I think it was because of me. XD Oh well, I won, so that's what matters, but seriously, I was running out of ideas on what to do when I had to counterpick. Remember I can't go to Japes, and just about every other stage is neutral or gone since I already won on some of the stages we played on (Dave's Stupid Rule). I certainly didn't want to go to CPs HE went to and risk having him more comfortable on a stage than me, so yeah. I guess since Pictochat is rarely picked here in Vegas, and hardly anybody has enoguh practice with it... yeah... plus the iSDR certainly helped against the LOLimar spam. Just a warning to all of you, if Luigi's Mansion and Corneria are banned in your area, you may want to consider banning/striking Castle Siege (assuming CS is a neutral and you go by the striking selection). The first transformation has angles that work in Olimar's favor, and the 2nd has walk-offs where you can get killed very early if you're not careful. I was in the lead so thankfully I could run away during this time, but so much time could've been lost because Olimar is just so gay.

Enough of that, I'm finally in Amateur GFs, and I had to play Hino since he made it to GFs from the winner's side. It was getting late, I would have to win two sets against him to become the champion, and I was tired from having to play Twice before, so I just said "@#$% it" and forfeited. I did convince him to play a couple of seriouslies with me though, and I didn't offer to split because we play to win here in Vegas, so F*** yeah Seaking! :p

As for Dubz, me and Tails did fine. We still lost because it wasn't enough, but we did better than usual. I'm hoping we can practice some more with this and maybe in the future get somewhere.

As I've said earlier, I can't speak from Tails' perspective, but I've been training him. He's still making a couple of mistakes here and there, and his tourney-placings don't reflect his getting better, but he is improving. Someday though, every Hedgehdog has their day...

And D'oh, before I forget, I remember playing against Victor, the TO of Vegas. He's gotten better, I believe I legit lost one match. I won, but yeah, I might want to watch out. :X

I believe that is it... I'm sorry if this sounds really redundant, I had to play a lot of the same people many times, so don't blame me. :p I still got far, no matter the challenge, so I'm very happy about that. Now if I can be this amazing when we actually have the Vegasmash pros like SK92, maybe I can make something more out of these stories.

No chance of any videos except the one match where I went Jigglypuff. :(

And Sonic boards, I'm sorry, but I'm gone to the Scourge side. I'll still see if I can go Super Sonic, but for now, the problem's chronic. :p
 

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The power... It's just too hard to resist...



Muahahaha~! *Goes mad from the power-infusion*

In actuality though, I think I'm going to use the Scourge Texture when I want to win. Super Sonic is for consistency, but Scourge can get deeper in a bracket. He got tired in the end. :(

Edit: Woah d*** what a page stretcher.
 

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Most of the time lots of our texture hacks are off... It sucks. People here are so stingy. :|

You're going to see the error of your ways!

Super Sonic vs. Super Scourge MM someday?
 

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Schehehe! Son you have no idea what potential this holds! I haven't even bothered to implement Super Scourge into my style, I only got these results normally! I'll be more glad to punk you out of your Chaos Emeralds and gain even MORE power!!

I sure hope nobody minds a little bit of role-play. :/
 

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Sonic RPer on LiveJournal. Get at me, son. LOL

Oh yeah? Careful; too much power and you might pop! I wouldn't want anything to happen to you before I leave you choking on my dust.
 

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People still use LiveJournal? Probably an off-topic post though.
 

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Livejournal is a hot spot for roleplaying, actually. I usually play Cloud & Sonic at places. And I occassionally blog there on my personal journal.

...so...back on topic.

... so I heard that this Kuraudo guy in Canada's a pretty good Sonic. He always places top 10 and doesn't afraid of anything.
 

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Well, how tough is that Kuraudo guy's region? How about on a comparison scale against rivaling/noteworthy regions?

Take for example, this Kinzer guy's region is said to have the 2nd best region in the Pacific West. That should be just dandy considering the U.S. West Coast is a hot spot for smash, right?
 

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Kinzer...im really happy for your tourney results, and imma let you finish, but SONIC IS THE BEST HEDGEHOG OF ALL TIME...OF ALL TIME! (sorry, couldnt resist :( )

screw scourge, if i see you kinzer, im gonna MM you, Super Speed Sonic(my custom super sonic texture KC made) vs whatever Scourge you pick. I am the bane of Scourge mains. Just ask Shado. D:< still <3 you though.

o wait, why does it say Mery the Hedgehog underneath Scourge? Unless...something you wanna tell us, other faker?

but yeah, good joob Kinzer. Next time, just get two places higher! Top 3=moneh

:sonic: well, rings in his manner. =/
 

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Why not just have the best of all worlds and use all hedgehogs? We're all aiming for the same thing right? I say go for whoever spurs you on most.

:sonic:




And just so I don't get warned/infracted for spamming.

Good stuff Kinzer!! Keep at it!
 

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woooow sonikupo too good! I'll go with :sonic: cause he's too freakin good, is blue, and he is in and was the main character of the first game i have ever played. the rest are fakers, weaker, too slow, etc.

So we got APEX 2, WHOBO 2, and POUND 4. Make sure we get a healthy handful of Sonic mains at each one. Just to beat top players and make people go =o !!1!
 

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http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=258980
out of 33
17th SothE
17th Excel
25th Rogue

I was surprised at my performance. I started off slow and then I sped up after Dubz. My bracket was kinda deadly. I got Ook and I did well getting him to last stock 70+ percent in both games. It's funny because I thought he was gonna 3 stock me something serious. I remember my second stock on Game 1, I'm at like 97% and I walk up to him (mindgame attempt) and he Donkey Punches me in the face like out of nowhere. I almost lol'd.
 

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Well, how tough is that Kuraudo guy's region? How about on a comparison scale against rivaling/noteworthy regions?

Take for example, this Kinzer guy's region is said to have the 2nd best region in the Pacific West. That should be just dandy considering the U.S. West Coast is a hot spot for smash, right?
We're a smaller region in comparison to Canada's East Coast. Primarily because this region was once far more vast with Melee and it was tougher getting Brawl off the ground. Our tournaments usually pump out 20/25 contestants per monthly. There are a lot of Marths and Snakes. A few Meta Knights as well. Two Game & Watches, a few ROBs, a Lucario, a Wolf, a Peach, Ness (fun times yay lol!), Zelda (plays Meta Knight to CP, really good player), Kirby & DK, but in other words, plenty of disadvantage match-ups for me.

SuPeRbOoM, KillL0ck, and Alphicans are our top 3 players, and they have what it takes to compete with other regions. That being said, I play with the first two all the time. And they play characters like Marth, Snake, and Meta Knight; I'm capable, and have, taken matches from them. So while small, I believe it can get tough here.

America has a higher standard of competition to be sure. That being said, not once placing outside of top 10. I'd like to think I'm legit.
 

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o wait, why does it say Mery the Hedgehog underneath Scourge? Unless...something you wanna tell us, other faker?

but yeah, good joob Kinzer. Next time, just get two places higher! Top 3=moneh
I believe that's just the artists signature Speed. No, we don't have another Sonic character to go out of style in less than 5 games.

And I will. :)

Why not just have the best of all worlds and use all hedgehogs? We're all aiming for the same thing right? I say go for whoever spurs you on most.

Good stuff Kinzer!! Keep at it!
You forgot Super Sonic. Or are we just not taking into consideration super forms?

I did have a Silver texture for Green Sonic until I replaced him with Scourge.
 

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Vegassmash Gameworld Weekly #26
http://allisbrawl.com/event.aspx?id=7132
December 20th, 2009
Out of 17
13th - Tails (Sonic)

Vegassmash Gameworld Weekly #26 Amateur Bracket
http://allisbrawl.com/event.aspx?id=7134
December 20th, 2009
Out of 9
7th - Tails (Sonic)

Edit: The results just got posted.

I don't know what my results are for the Gameworld tournament for the regular singles. I'm pretty sure I got near dead last as usual.

Just make it simple, Lost to Xero and his Olimar again. Got 3 stocked on the first match and 2 stocked on the 2nd match. I accidentally killed myself again in the first match resulting in the 3 stock.

My second set I played Ozzy and his Meta Knight. I was lucky to win the first one since he killed himself on his last stock. Now, I said I'll won't use Toon Link in tournaments, well I decided to use Toon Link since he counterpicked Delifino Plaza, the worst idea ever since I have no experience in fighting against a Meta Knight with Toon Link. Also my bad habit with Toon Link which cost me that match. The final match I don't know why I picked Smashville...wait I do, TMech told me to...that was the worst mistake to do. I lost in that match.

For amateur, I believe I got 7th out of 9th (that's what Teresa, one of the TO said)

First I had to play against my friend metalfalcon. He first went as Zelda. I kept getting killed by her USmash but every time he used her Up-B move, I timed myself and FSmash her to her death twice. I won that match. Then, he decided to go as his regular main, ROB. He could of went to Rainbow Cruise since I didn't ban it and it's his counterpick stage, but since I help him out with something (which I forgot), he promised me that he wouldn't go to Rainbow Cruise on me in singles. He went to Frigate. Thanks to Kinzer, I felt pretty comfortable with Frigate and I won against metalfalcon

My next match, again I had to fight against Xero and Olimar...thinking in my head..."f*** my life!" I got 3 stocked again in the first match. 2nd match I was so happy to get 2 stock off of him. Absolute no surprise there

My final match I had to play against silentwolf and his Lucario. I only have a little experience against Lucario, but it kinda resulted me into spamming spin dash alot. I lost to him on the first match in Battlefield. 2nd match I chose Yoshi Island Brawl and he almost reverse 3 stocked me but I got it at the end. The final match, we went to Castle Siege. I only played on that stage a few times, but I lost at the end with a very close match. My heart was racing with the last match because if I would had won, I would had to play against Kinzer. I think between me and Kinzer, it like at 70:30 match up in Kinzer favor.

Team, I was very happy how we did.

Overall, I was pretty happy with my performance, but I still have a lot of habits I really need to break. Hopefully I'll do better in the regular tournament compare to the amateur. The thing I wasn't too happy with was using Toon Link. I've pretty much decided to drop Toon Link as my secondary main for tournaments since I mess around with Toon Link in friendlies and he's not ready to be used at all.

I do apologize with my format of my results, but once I see the official results, I'll fix it.
 

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You forgot Super Sonic. Or are we just not taking into consideration super forms?

I did have a Silver texture for Green Sonic until I replaced him with Scourge.
I don't use the Super Forms 'cause it makes me D: if I lose with them. Normally, I just go Scourge if Sonic isn't working out. ('cause I like mindgaming myself into thinking that I am somehow using another hedgehog)

Also, don't give up Tails!
 

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I don't use the Super Forms 'cause it makes me D: if I lose with them. Normally, I just go Scourge if Sonic isn't working out. ('cause I like mindgaming myself into thinking that I am somehow using another hedgehog)

Also, don't give up Tails!
Thanks SoniKupo. I promise Kinzer I won't give up and I'm going to keep that promise.
 

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well guys i just got back from R3! man was that fun! i also beat sean in tournament!! norcals best???
something like that! it was awesome! i also beat like 20 people in money matches!!!

WOOOO HOOOOOO!!!

my sonic is on fire!!!

anyways merry chirstmas guys!!!



X EDIT: results for the tournaments a few weeks ago!

7th out of 48 at world 2-2
http://allisbrawl.com/event.aspx?id=6992


and

7th out of 42 at MOS#5
http://allisbrawl.com/event.aspx?id=6992
 

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Wow, X.

Keep up the good work.

I wanna see the looks on those people's faces when you beat them in money matches. :bee:
 

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well guys i just got back from R3! man was that fun! i also beat sean in tournament!! norcals best???
something like that! it was awesome! i also beat like 20 people in money matches!!!

WOOOO HOOOOOO!!!

my sonic is on fire!!!

anyways merry chirstmas guys!!!

X EDIT: results for the tournaments a few weeks ago!

7th out of 48 at world 2-2
http://allisbrawl.com/event.aspx?id=6992


and

7th out of 42 at MOS#5
http://allisbrawl.com/event.aspx?id=6992

X's performance
Winners' bracket
Bye
Defeated Shugo
Lost to Tyrant

Losers' bracket
Defeated Fiction16
Defeated Awesome
Defeated JonT
Lost to Hall


Overall placing: 7/48


WUT. How...? When...? X too freakin good. 20+ People in MM's with Sonic only. Dang, i feel like im just walking in place and X is just using Sonic Boom (from Sonic Rivals) to speed past me. waaaaay past me.
 

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its true, they are too good, i lose to them too, but im just gonna have to fight my primal urges to kill and just camp the piss out of that cute little baby.
 

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Kinzer...im really happy for your tourney results, and imma let you finish, but SONIC IS THE BEST HEDGEHOG OF ALL TIME...OF ALL TIME! (sorry, couldnt resist :( )

screw scourge, if i see you kinzer, im gonna MM you, Super Speed Sonic(my custom super sonic texture KC made) vs whatever Scourge you pick. I am the bane of Scourge mains. Just ask Shado. D:< still <3 you though.

o wait, why does it say Mery the Hedgehog underneath Scourge? Unless...something you wanna tell us, other faker?

but yeah, good joob Kinzer. Next time, just get two places higher! Top 3=moneh

:sonic: well, rings in his manner. =/
I recall Scourge getting his revenge. muhahhaahaa. We need 2 play again. See how better u've gotten. Mr. Best Sonic.
 
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