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Are you serious! He is the greatest Samus player in the world....sweet! hey whos Hugs anyway?"
lol
Up B after the L-canceled aerial and before the shine. There's a good chance you can miss if you press Up B after the shine if they wavedash out of their shine or jump at a particular angle. Also, say if they were to waveshine/jump left or right, since they are holding that direction, they would easy DI away from the Up B, that is, if you even hit them.I'm sure any samus player would suggest up and b out of shield. I know I had problems with the timing, and I was told you are supposed to up and b right after the shine, which seems logical, and it also works well.
You wait until after the shine because if they go airborne, you can UpB then and be protected from their drill. If they WD towards you, then they just DI into the UpB. If they WD away, you just have to see it coming and WD away yourself. It's not a perfect defense, but it's one of the best in the game against moves like the shine.Up B after the L-canceled aerial and before the shine. There's a good chance you can miss if you press Up B after the shine if they wavedash out of their shine or jump at a particular angle. Also, say if they were to waveshine/jump left or right, since they are holding that direction, they would easy DI away from the Up B, that is, if you even hit them.
Yeah lol, there is like 1 frame that you can actually get out your up b lol. Afterwords there is quite a bit more.You wait until after the shine because if they go airborne, you can UpB then and be protected from their drill. If they WD towards you, then they just DI into the UpB. If they WD away, you just have to see it coming and WD away yourself. It's not a perfect defense, but it's one of the best in the game against moves like the shine.
Lets say they don't want to follow up on any of their attacks, clearly they aren't going to win.Also, say if they were to waveshine/jump left or right, since they are holding that direction, they would easy DI away from the Up B, that is, if you even hit them.
OOOOORRRRRRRRYou wait until after the shine because if they go airborne, you can UpB then and be protected from their drill. If they WD towards you, then they just DI into the UpB. If they WD away, you just have to see it coming and WD away yourself. It's not a perfect defense, but it's one of the best in the game against moves like the shine.
Let's say you don't and do it after the L-canceled aerial, that way, they'll get hit no matter what.Lets say that if your waiting till after their shine, then they don't have enough time to jump out of the way of your up and b.
Exactly, so you do it inbetween the aerial and the shine...lol, HugS does it. I do it and it works fine against CunningKitsune.Lets say, that nothing a fox can do to punish your up and b is really that effective.
LOL, my Samus>>>yours, money match?Lets say you learn how to play a character before you comment on how to play them.
Maybe if they miss the L-cancel and/or drill too early. They might drill early to mix things up, in which case you can do it then. I think my point is that it's a guessing game, and doing it before or after is largely dependent on what your opponent plans on doing.OOOOORRRRRRRR
You can just do it in between the aerial and shine and hit them every ****ing time.
No, not maybe. Trust me, it works. Look at HugS lol. Yes, I do know that you can hit them even after the shine, but why do that if you can always hit them before it.Maybe if they miss the L-cancel and/or drill too early. They might drill early to mix things up, in which case you can do it then. I think my point is that it's a guessing game, and doing it before or after is largely dependent on what your opponent plans on doing.
Actually, it's easier to punish. DIing out of it=not getting hit by the entire attack and recovering before Samus.Also, if they DI out of it, it's still a hit, and DIing out of the hit yeilds a lot of knockback, so it's a bit harder to punish.
Rofl, your too funny. No really, especially your little ladder. FYI, cunning is a fox main. Good job beating his falco.OOOOORRRRRRRR
You can just do it in between the aerial and shine and hit them every ****ing time.
Let's say you don't and do it after the L-canceled aerial, that way, they'll get hit no matter what.
Exactly, so you do it inbetween the aerial and the shine...lol, HugS does it. I do it and it works fine against CunningKitsune.
LOL, my Samus>>>yours, money match?
Let's see....you get 3 stocked by Big C, Kirkq beats Big C, my Samus ***** Kirkq, my Samus practically goes even with CunningKitsune's Falco, soo...I think I know how to use this character, especially at a higher level then you. Oh snap, I can basically say this same thing to you lolololzzz
Good one.
You should prolly get good at SmashBros before you mock other people's skill mangz, seriously. I know you like to talk ****, but I think it's worthless if you're insanely bad at the game.
Umm, idk what you mean. All I can say is my way = HugS way and he's godly.Rofl, your too funny. No really, especially your little ladder.
FYI, good is amazing at this game. All good Fox mains have a good Falco. *fact*FYI, cunning is a fox main. Good job beating his falco.
Blacksmashplayer is my first sn, as any NJ player lol.Rofl, this guy makes a new aim account just so he can message me some more, and clearly thinks that by up and b after shine I mean beforee the downair and shine, just ccheck out his aim message he sent me:
? Shield getting hit, not Samus herself. We were talking about shield stun, I could only assume you weren't that ****ing ********, but you proved me wrong. Congrats. Falco will hit your shield with the Dair, then shine your way. That's 2 moves. My way...or, HugS/Wes/Good way, the aerial and only the aerial hits.I meant Dair combined with the Shine. God you are dumb. Your way = getting hit by 2 moves, mine = one move. Also, like I was saying, I'd rather deal with less lag. Also, look at this, if you get used to doing it after his aerials...you'll get used to doing after aerials...in general, right? Say you fight a cfalcon and accidentally hold ur shield to long to get an up b, u'd look like an idiot. my way = hugs way...soo, i yeah. that's basically enough said. wow, u should really concentrate on getting good at this ****ing game, seriously. start by not losing to terrible players LOLZ
My way=getting hit by no moves.
I'm sorry, but the wes way is powershielding. please learn what you are talking about.Blacksmashplayer is my first sn
? Shield getting hit, not Samus herself. Falco will hit your shield with the Dair, then shine your way. That's 2 moves. My way...or, HugS/Wes/Good way, the aerial and only the aerial hits.
let's see kirk beat me without just standing on the top platform of a stage the whole match. then let's see u beat eddie in a set in tournament then let's see u beat drephen a game in tournament then u can make fun of ppl losing to me. but kirk is most definitely not better than me at this game he just camps and it's ******** as hell.OOOOORRRRRRRR
You can just do it in between the aerial and shine and hit them every ****ing time.
Let's say you don't and do it after the L-canceled aerial, that way, they'll get hit no matter what.
Exactly, so you do it inbetween the aerial and the shine...lol, HugS does it. I do it and it works fine against CunningKitsune.
LOL, my Samus>>>yours, money match?
Let's see....you get 3 stocked by Big C, Kirkq beats Big C, my Samus ***** Kirkq, my Samus practically goes even with CunningKitsune's Falco, soo...I think I know how to use this character, especially at a higher level then you. Oh snap, I can basically say this same thing to you lolololzzz
Good one.
You should prolly get good at SmashBros before you mock other people's skill mangz, seriously. I know you like to talk ****, but I think it's worthless if you're insanely bad at the game.
Lol, watch Wes vs PC. He doesn't spam it like HugS, but he definately does it.I'm sorry, but the wes way is powershielding. please learn what you are talking about.
kkthen let's see u beat eddie in a set in tournament then let's see u beat drephen a game in tournament
You didn't use your main and 3 stocked him... >_>then u can make fun of ppl losing to me.
Truth, but were are talking about Falco if I'm not mistaken.but kirk is most definitely not better than me at this game he just camps and it's ******** as hell.
I'm sorry that you refer to one match for your judgment on skill, not to mention that you actually use videos to figure out how good people are.Ah, ok.
Hmm...but Mars is still ****ing terrible
False, remember? I asked fellow MW players about you and everyone of them said you're extremely bad LOLI'm sorry that you refer to one match for your judgment on skill, not to mention that you actually use videos to figure out how good people are.
Dude, I told you. He doesn't use it like HugS does at all. But would you serious say he's NEVER DONE IT before?But anyway, I was going to make a long as video of wes powershielding downairs, but I got bored after teh first two matchs, so here is the video:
Wes Powershielding
If you need more proof I can happily show you my aim log with him telling me that he powershields falcos downair.
Actually, I told you to stop talking so I can say what I had to say....but you blocked me before doing so.HugQ: I would, but when I realized how annoying this guy was on aim as well, I blocked him.
I'm curious, who besides cunning did you actually talk to? And cunning defenately isn't a reliable source, I played him a year ago, he has no idea how good I am now.False, remember? I asked fellow MW players about you and everyone of them said you're extremely bad LOL
You seem to have a great rep in your own region man.
If you really want a mm, come out here and I'm sure you will get one.But yeah, if you are good (which is wrong), then ****ing accept my money match -_-
I never said he doesn't do it, look at the video I posted, he powershields and then up and b. I'm sorry it's that hard to comprehend a sentance.Dude, I told you. He doesn't use it like HugS does at all. But would you serious say he's NEVER DONE IT before?
Good job.I MOTHER ****ING PLAYED WES BEFORE
Lol, you simply wouldn't stop talking is more like it.Actually, I told you to stop talking so I can say what I had to say....but you blocked me before doing so.
lol, then again, anyone can tell that way you said is false looking at the way you talk online.
This is almost as intelligent of a insult as your little ladder. Hmmm, I beat eddie in some friendlies, I'm sure eddie has beaten ken in some friendlies too, OMG, I'M BETTER THEN KEN, GG.Wow, just wow You're definately done now Mars. Just go practice getting better at this game instead of trying to start random **** online. No joke, I'm serious.
Yeah, I'll just listen to Zjiin.Zjiin said:Someone just directed me to the argument between you and Mars. Dude, give up. I blocked this dumbass already. He just likes to argue like he knows what he's talking about and he's absolutely terrible. He goes to only one local tourneys and he almost never enters. He's a troll and he'll ignore any money match you propose.
Just don't want anyone else besides me to waste any more time on this scrub.
~Z
I'm sure zjiin forgot to tell you that I'm so terrible I ***** him in our last mm, oh and in a tourny match too. Infact, I ***** him so bad I didn't even feel like taking his money. He even decided to just not show up for our last money match.Private Message from Zjiin, titled "LOL"
Yeah, I'll just listen to Zjiin.
I think I'm done here.
I'm sure zjiin forgot to tell you that I'm so terrible I ***** him in our last mm, oh and in a tourny match too. Infact, I ***** him so bad I didn't even feel like taking his money. He even decided to just not show up for our last money match.Private Message from Zjiin, titled "LOL"
Yeah, I'll just listen to Zjiin.
I think I'm done here.
I never said that, unlike you however, who said that because you beat cunning's falco, you are good. I'll ask you one last question, off of the bases of 2 players opinions, 1 who I beat, and 1 who played me a long long long long long time ago, how do you somehow come up with an idea of my skill level? I mean, considering that I have shown you that I was better then ken, I just don't see how you can possibly consider me worse then you.I see, so beating him automatically makes you good and not a troll.
Thats quite ironic that you mention that, since that seems to be the basis of your whole arguement. And that arguement, is based off of people's opinions that well, don't really matter. Now unlike my arguement, which is based off of facts. Now as I recall, I accepted your money match, when are you planning on following through with it? No johns.Whether you're truely are better than him or not, you had to resort to mocking his skill to defend yourself, which is sad. Since that's what you did to me, now I know what he said is definitely true
Off of the top of my head I can remember 6 people saying that they think I am better then zjiin.Ask any MW player
Rofl, Never played Kirkq or iggy. Sveet is in my crew so he was joking when he told you I was bad, if he did lol, I'm sorry that you count experience as being better, instead of results, which clearly the results are me beating zjiin. Perhaps he is more priviliged to play somebody like tink and eddie every week. Big C, I have no problem with him saying I am not good cause he beat me fair and square, don't even feel like having to tell you again about cunning.Reread the post, I edited it.
Also, I came up with your skill level from a number of players, not one (Kirkq, Iggy, Ckit, Zjiin, Big C, Sveet). If you can find an experienced player who can say you truely are skilled at this game, then please go ahead since I'm obviously having no luck doing so.
Yes, it was my opinion that Big C 3 stocks you.Thats quite ironic that you mention that, since that seems to be the basis of your whole arguement. And that arguement, is based off of people's opinions that well, don't really matter. Now unlike my arguement, which is based off of facts.
Whenever we meet. It's not like him eager to play you. How much shall it be sir?Now as I recall, I accepted your money match, when are you planning on following through with it? No johns.
I meant any MW player that would say you're skilled at this game, please read.Off of the top of my head I can remember 6 people saying that they think I am better then zjiin.
I don't know, it makes sense to believe someone who plays good people alot is more skilled than someone who rarely does.Rofl, Never played Kirkq or iggy. Sveet is in my crew so he was joking when he told you I was bad, if he did lol, I'm sorry that you count experience as being better, instead of results, which clearly the results are me beating zjiin. Perhaps he is more priviliged to play somebody like tink and eddie every week. Big C, I have no problem with him saying I am not good cause he beat me fair and square, don't even feel like having to tell you again about cunning.