A justification for BURNING FORMALDEHYDE

[Uncle Meat]

So, as a disclaimer, I don't smoke, I quit half a year ago, going strong. But if I still did, this would be my justification for my habit to the self righteous strangers that lecture you about it.

People talk about how smoking encourages gene mutation. The deletion or substitution of nucleotide bases causes cells to produce proteins it is not intended to. This can lead to cancer, which is obviously a terrible disease.

But I'm something of a gambling man. I put the question to you, what if a smoking related mutation leads on to greater things? What if I mutate and develop super powers? Who's laughing then? I may be ****ing dying of cancer, but you're dying when a 40ft tall half bird half man blasts you in the face with a ****ing energy beam. What, mother ****er?

Just my two cents.

 

[GoldShadow]

A highly compelling and persuasive argument.

 

[X1-12]

as far as I understand, you are about 1000 times more likely to get cancer from smoking than you are a gene mutation, and the chances of that mutation being beneficial is probably about 10,000 to 1

I wouldn't risk it.

 

[BBQTV]

i like those odds. this makes want to consider smoking

 

[-Jumpman-]

Well smoking is not unethical, so it doesn't need to be justified. The annoyance is causes might needs to be justified though.

 

[X1-12]

Well smoking is not unethical, so it doesn't need to be justified. The annoyance is causes might needs to be justified though.

I find others smoking infront of me, or anywhere in a 30m radius to be unethical

 

[-Jumpman-]

I find others smoking infront of me, or anywhere in a 30m radius to be unethical

You might, but that doesn't make the action itself unethical.

 

[Luigitoilet]

That's dumb.

 

[Uncle Meat]

as far as I understand, you are about 1000 times more likely to get cancer from smoking than you are a gene mutation, and the chances of that mutation being beneficial is probably about 10,000 to 1

I wouldn't risk it.

Like I said, I'm a gambling man. The odds are against me, but I'm on a winning streak so I'm gonna chain smoke cigars for a bit. I'll report back when I start developing my super powers.

Also, cancer develops from gene mutations. When both of a cell's tumour suppressor genes have mutated it can't regulate and suppress cell division and a tumour starts to grow. Can also happen with a mutation to the genes that code for proteins that stimulate cell division, making them effectively switched on constantly. I may well be wrong, but I thought this was the way all cancers develop.

 

[BBQTV]

That's dumb.

can you prove that. if not that's dumb

 

[UberMario]

People have been smoking for centuries, you aren't going to get any improvements from cancer-like errors. When it mutates the cells it destroys a part of them (it becomes a cancer when the reproductive portion of the cells is damaged, normal cells have "self-destruct" or growth stopping mechanisms for when they aren't performing properly, if that portion of the cell has a problem it grows without stopping, distrubting the errors to the rest of the body. Moles are tumors, but due to the fact that the reproductive portion of the cells is intact they don't grow in size, if they did, it would go from being a benign tumor [moles, birthmarks, spots, etc.] to a malignant tumor [cancer]), it doesn't add on like an expansion to the cell.

 

[Uncle Meat]

That's dumb.

How dare you insult me for contributing my valid, life improving ideas to this forum. I am being a nurturing member of this community and you are being a bad man and insulting me for my participation.

I feel hurt and dejected when you demean me.

EDIT: everyone who disagrees with me should watch the X-Men trilogy. Live the dream, guys. In these difficult economic times, we need hope. Hope to carry us through like the arms of Jesus to a higher plane of being where everyone is a cool *** mutant.

 

[Mr.Freeman]

Despite the fact that people have smoked for hundreds of years now, and its more or less come down to negative side affects such as yellowing of the teeth, bad breath, addiction, lung cancer, etc.

Good luck, though.

 

[Uncle Meat]

I'm already growing some ****** mutton chops in the hopes it will steer the mutation towards a more Wolverine-like superpower. Bad breath and yellow teeth aren't a worry, I huff lysol pretty regularly.

 

[Teran]

Here's why I smoke.

I enjoy it and I don't care about the potential damage it could do.

There, **** off if you don't like it. Works fine imo.

 

[Luigitoilet]

can you prove that. if not that's dumb

Can I prove it? I dunno, I guess. It's just dumb, in the way that a tree is a tree. It just is and is very obvious so there is nothing to prove.

 

[Dodongo]

Trust me dude, the bigger the sideburns, the more powerful your mutations will be.

 

[Kole]

gene mutilation doesn't exactly work like in the movies

 

[Uncle Meat]

Haha, reminds me of this Louis CK clip, Teran. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3c0THQbdDE

You skeptic cynics must get no enjoyment out of life.

EDIT: Continuing on my trend of sarcastic posting, I would like to commend Luigitoilet for his brilliant observations. However, they are simply observations and with no real substantial evidence, I don't think I can take your argument as proof against mine.

Dodongo:

Not only can I channel the powers of mutation through my mutton chops, but they make me the ****ing mack daddy.

 

[BBQTV]

i totally agree with this.

 

[Dodongo]

Let's see Magneto outjive you now

 

[M.K]

Eh, I wonder if the 140,000 "gambling men/women" who die from lung cancer each year were in it for the odds too.
Like honestly....it's a looked down upon habit, and it's bad for your body, and you don't have to justify your actions. A person smoking is just like a person who eats too much fast food, you see them doing it, you see how it affects their body, and you live with knowing that they'll eventually die from something related to that.
We all see it happen, theres no point in justifying it.

 

[jugfingers]

its funny because tobacco was originally used orally by native americans for as a hallucinogenic

of course modern tobacco is grown with radium, lead 210, polonium 210 then mixed with benzene and formaldehyde and other stuff.

also I think its more toxic than mutagenic.


but seriously though
if your going to justify smoking, justify it by saying your training your body to withstand deadly poison.


or that it looks really sexy.

 

[Dodongo]

Yeah, anyone who thinks smoking doesn't look cool should watch Bebop again.

 

[Teran]

Clint Eastwood smokes.

/thread

 

[BBQTV]

Yeah, anyone who thinks smoking doesn't look cool should watch Bebop again.

this times a thousand.

anyway isn't marrie jane better then cigarettes. because i heard that cigarettes have more chemicals and bad stuff

 

[Luigitoilet]

yes, weed is generally more "healthy" than smoking cigarettes. It's still not healthy to inhale any kind of smoke into you though.

 

[IAmBlu3]

you have to justify smoking? lol. just do it if you want to.....just don't blow it directly in my face...

 

[cutter]

To be honest, I'd rather just be exposed to gamma rays if I wanted to pull the beneficial mutation slot machine.

 

[Grandeza]

i hate it when people smoke at bus stops cause it's all in my face and I would rather not leave the bus line ><

 

[X1-12]

I find others smoking infront of me, or anywhere in a 30m radius to be unethical

You might, but that doesn't make the action itself unethical.

people slowly killing me is not unethical?

 

[Brightside6382]

Here's why I smoke.

I enjoy it and I don't care about the potential damage it could do.

There, **** off if you don't like it. Works fine imo.

feels good man

 

[Luigitoilet]

people slowly killing me is not unethical?

Stop being such a baby.

 

[X1-12]

Stop being such a baby.

because if I was, people would be murdering babies, and thats MUCH worse

 

[-Jumpman-]

people slowly killing me is not unethical?

That's one of the consequences of smoking, like I said, the actions ITSELF is not unethical. Now stop being dumb.

Edit: @first post: So first you get your gene mutation, and THEN you die from cancer.

 

[X1-12]

That's one of the consequences of smoking, like I said, the actions ITSELF is not unethical. Now stop being dumb.

Edit: @first post: So first you get your gene mutation, and THEN you die from cancer.

what? sticking a knife through someone's head is fine, but the consequences of them dying is unethical? How can you define what is ethical without considering the actions consequences?

 

[-Jumpman-]

Oh my god... -_-;

Dictionary.com:

–verb (used with object)
17. to draw into the mouth and puff out the smoke of: to smoke tobacco.
18. to use (a pipe, cigarette, etc.) in this process.
19. to expose to smoke.
20. to fumigate (rooms, furniture, etc.).
21. to cure (meat, fish, etc.) by exposure to smoke.
22. to color or darken by smoke.

Does this include other people inhaling the smoke? No. Hence the action itself is not unethical in the way you think it is. Your terrible comparisons don't help your argument.

 

[-Jumpman-]

Edit: double post.

 

[BBQTV]

he's talking about second hand smoking

 

[-Jumpman-]

I know that he is, but saying that smoking itself is unethical is ********. He's not convincing anyone.