A few more possible ATs

[shanus]

JC Grabs with the longer missed grab winddown (I will get this working this weekend)

Footstool cancels. I think we can do two things which could be cool. The first is the person performing the footstool should be able to cancel the footstool hop to use it in a combo. I had this idea when I made the DJC code for ness a while back, and DJC the footstool was so cool for combos.

Being footstooled for a lot of characters also spells instant death (aka bowser, DK, etc). Let's also face the fact that it seems very very difficult to ever be able to remove unintentional footstools. I was thinking about building in a psuedo footstool meteor cancel window.

more ideas to be posted later

 

[Almas]

Finding the trait that makes ISJR possible and then making it easier for specific characters (say, Jigglypuff) would be an interesting way to add to their game.

Also to consider is adding to the usefulness of Samus' Missile Cancels. Right now I believe it is possible but since we sped up the end lag of her Missiles, it's not so good. It'd add a little tech skill to her.

 

[The Cape]

So meteor cancel footstools and we can make footstool jumps FFable :-p

 

[Veril]

Finding the trait that makes ISJR possible and then making it easier for specific characters (say, Jigglypuff) would be an interesting way to add to their game.

Also to consider is adding to the usefulness of Samus' Missile Cancels. Right now I believe it is possible but since we sped up the end lag of her Missiles, it's not so good. It'd add a little tech skill to her.

I'm working on ISJR. I'll post when I figure it out (and I will!)

Something I really want to do is add in additional frames in which b-reversing is possible. Recently I discovered that all b-reversals begin on frame 4 (so 3 frame input window at the start of any compatible b move). No earlier, no later, no exceptions cept the pawnches.

 

[shanus]

so is anyone interested in what i posted?

I need to know if its worth pursuing

 

[Revven]

I like the idea of footstool cancels and the canceling of the meteor animation from footstools. JC grabs I'm cool with, adds a cool AT and junk. I REALLY like Almas's idea for ISJR and Veril's B-reversal idea too.

Also, we need to get a legit ledgeteching in.

 

[leafgreen386]

Loving the ideas in this thread. The footstool stuff could be a really nice change to the system, I think. I still just wish footstools were tied to a different input than jump...

 

[Veril]

Don't do footstool canceling. It sounds good but it WILL lead to death combos and possible infinites. Footstool meteor canceling would be brilliant. Mapping footstools to another button would also be amazing (button mapping craziness, I hope its possible).

Almas, I'll be sure to get you my ISJR data when I figure out what the heck it all means

 

[Dark Sonic]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=246129&page=2

New Vbrawl tech that may be more useful in brawl+ (since we can combo out of it . Something as simple as a jab reset would be a powerful option)

 

[shanus]

Alright, untested but need feedback.

This should give you the ability to MC a footstool for 3 frames starting at frame 5 with a jump (using joystick or jump button) or upB.

Also has a working version of JC grabs but the extra lag on the missed grab is NOT working.

http://shanemulliganphotography.blogsite.org:6111/~shane/NearGold/FitFoxJCtesting3.pac