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"A Bad Smash Day..."- Conker for Ultimate!

TheBeastHimself

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You're idea is good! I was also thinking that his Context Sensitive ability would be the best for his role, but since he has so many abilities, it's really hard to choose from, but yeah the knives might really be the best option. As for the content, I'm sure that can work without being graphic, besides, one of their shorts involved Sub-Zero ripping Bowser's head off, so if they're fine with that, than I really don't see any issue!
My other idea was to make a reference to the Gargoyle scene in BDF, where Conker would walk into Bowser, hit him with his fry pan and Bowser would laugh so hard that he'd end up accidently falling off the bridge into the lava, and then in the next room, instead of there being a princess saying "Thank you Conker", there would be cash saying "So you want some green stuff eh", but yeah you're right, the CS trick trully is Conker's most memorable ability, so I guess it that would be the most fitting way for him to defeat Bowser and get the money.

By the way, here are Conker's sprites for his short, I tried my best to make him as close to the original NES Mario sprite while still staying true to his appearance. Gotta say, it was way more challenging than what I was expecting it to be. So what do you guys think?
I think those sprites are absolutely amazing! Not only do they nicely resemble Conker, but I believe they also perfectly fit the Super Mario Bros. aesthetic, I'd definitely tweet these out! By the way, I dig your Gargoyle scene a lot more than what I initially thought. Yeah the Context Sensitive pads maybe be important to Conker but that was also an iconic scene from BFD that would fit perfectly in this scenario with Bowser.

Ah, I knew that sooner or later someone would get offended by this...

So what if the game is japanese, alot of its characters such as Mario, DK, Duck Hunt Duo, Pacman, Ness, Inlkings, etc... don't even look japanese.
And even when they do (at least some of them, such as Kirby and the Pokemon characters) they still possess some creative and charming aspects that easily distinguish them from the others.

I personally don't like it when they add uncreative and unfitting anime characters. That's just my taste.
I'm gonna have to disagree with you here. I think it's a bit harsh to call "anime characters" uncreative and unfitting when they each come from very unique, highly successful franchises. There are fans of these characters, including myself, so calling them uncreative is a bit baffling to me because I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate that if people said that about your favorite characters, and like I said, they each come from successful, creative games. In my opinion, I think it's unfair to judge all these characters just based on their art style. Plus, the game is literally from Japan. That anime-esque art style is highly popular and frequently used in Japan so that wouldn't make it unfitting in the slightest. Also, how can you complain about weeb stuff when, once again, this game is literally from Japan! Of course a game made in Japan, along with game franchises made in Japan, would be influenced by Japanese culture and that is exactly what characters like Marth, Shulk, Joker, and other "anime" characters embrace.

This isn't meant to sound rude in the slightest, I just don't understand where you're coming from and I don't think your complaints make any sense...
 

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You know what,

That seems unnecessarily closed minded and is a huge generalization. Don't judge a book by it's cover, you know? Your throwing out a lot of fun possible experiences because of what is frankly an a flawed way of looking at forms of entertainment. It's the same logic that caused people to leave behind good cartoons for being "too kiddy" or to disregard games like Wind Waker because of it's art style.
 

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Uhh guys can I tell you something about Conker joining smash brothers, well on twitter and youtube, smash fans and youtubers stated that witch build for some reason if that witch point a hint for Banjo & Kazooie becoming a fighter for smash bros at E3, we will get Banjo-Kazooie spirits along side with Blast Corps and Jet Force Gemini spirits and what twitter and youtube said is if we are getting rare spirits then could their be more instead of three. That's what scares me because if we are getting more rare spirits like Banjo-Tooie, Perfect Dark, Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Viva Pinata, Battletoads and even Conker's Bad Fur Day spirits that Conker will be a spirit and that will deconfirm him well it's speculation but they might right, will be getting more rare spirits and if Conker is a spirit that leaves to me that I might give up, I won't being doing Conker, Smashboards, Smash Videos and even my smash fanarts for Conker so what i'm saying is that I won't be doing this anymore that I will have to accept that Conker will be a spirit that's for all for the Conker fans I believe that Conker will become a spirit of Banjo & Kazooie gets in so if Conker is a spirit then that really shows that spirits do deconfirm fighters, huh... what's the point now that I believe 100% that Conker will become spirit it's over for me and think I will give up sorry guys. :(
 
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Uhh guys can I tell you something about Conker joining smash brothers, well on twitter and youtube, smash fans and youtubers stated that witch build for some reason if that witch point a hint for Banjo & Kazooie becoming a fighter for smash bros at E3, we will get Banjo-Kazooie spirits along side with Blast Corps and Jet Force Gemini spirits and what twitter and youtube said is if we are getting rare spirits then could their be more instead of three. That's what scares me because if we are getting more rare spirits like Banjo-Tooie, Perfect Dark, Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Viva Pinata, Battletoads and even Conker's Bad Fur Day spirits that Conker will be a spirit and that will deconfirm him well it's speculation but they might right, will be getting more rare spirits and if Conker is a spirit that leaves to me that I won't being doing Conker, Smashboards, Smash Videos and even my smash fanarts for Conker so what i'm saying is that I won't be doing this anymore that I will have to accept that Conker will be a spirit that's for all for the Conker fans I believe that Conker will become a spirit of Banjo & Kazooie gets in so if Conker is a spirit then that really shows that spirits do deconfirm fighters, huh... what's the point now that I believe 100% that Conker will become spirit it's over for me. :(
I'm confused. You are saying that you believe Conker will definitely become a spirit. Even then, there's nothing indicating that spirits deconfirm characters. That witch seems more like a regular witch to me than a direct hint at Gruntilda, they don't look as alike as people make it out to be.

To be honest, I'm not expecting Conker in this game, but I'm still going to keep supporting him.
 
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Uhh guys can I tell you something about Conker joining smash brothers, well on twitter and youtube, smash fans and youtubers stated that witch build for some reason if that witch point a hint for Banjo & Kazooie becoming a fighter for smash bros at E3, we will get Banjo-Kazooie spirits along side with Blast Corps and Jet Force Gemini spirits and what twitter and youtube said is if we are getting rare spirits then could their be more instead of three. That's what scares me because if we are getting more rare spirits like Banjo-Tooie, Perfect Dark, Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Viva Pinata, Battletoads and even Conker's Bad Fur Day spirits that Conker will be a spirit and that will deconfirm him well it's speculation but they might right, will be getting more rare spirits and if Conker is a spirit that leaves to me that I might give up, I won't being doing Conker, Smashboards, Smash Videos and even my smash fanarts for Conker so what i'm saying is that I won't be doing this anymore that I will have to accept that Conker will be a spirit that's for all for the Conker fans I believe that Conker will become a spirit of Banjo & Kazooie gets in so if Conker is a spirit then that really shows that spirits do deconfirm fighters, huh... what's the point now that I believe 100% that Conker will become spirit it's over for me and think I will gave sorry guys. :(
Calm down, him being a spirit should not be taken as the end but hope, hope that one day, enough people will recognize how well he would fit with Diddy, BK and the others in Smash.

Plus, it can make people all over the world have to acknowledge that he exists. Right now, BK will only get the lion's share of the attention for character campaigning as long as they're not confirmed.

Spirits are no different than trophies. Most characters may not get promoted from that, but not all of them, so I don't see the correlation.
 
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Calm down, him being a spirit should not be taken as the end but hope, hope that one day, enough people will recognize how well he would fit with Diddy, BK and the others in Smash.

Plus, it can make people all over the world have to acknowledge that he exists. Right now, BK will only get the lion's share of the attention for character campaigning as long as they're not confirmed.

Spirits are no different than trophies. Most characters may not get promoted from that, but not all of them, so I don't see the correlation.
Exactly. At least Conker would be getting more worldwide attention if he was a spirit, which is very important in my opinion. He needs representation in Japan, I feel like that could be an important factor into him getting in.
 

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Uhh guys can I tell you something about Conker joining smash brothers, well on twitter and youtube, smash fans and youtubers stated that witch build for some reason if that witch point a hint for Banjo & Kazooie becoming a fighter for smash bros at E3, we will get Banjo-Kazooie spirits along side with Blast Corps and Jet Force Gemini spirits and what twitter and youtube said is if we are getting rare spirits then could their be more instead of three. That's what scares me because if we are getting more rare spirits like Banjo-Tooie, Perfect Dark, Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Viva Pinata, Battletoads and even Conker's Bad Fur Day spirits that Conker will be a spirit and that will deconfirm him well it's speculation but they might right, will be getting more rare spirits and if Conker is a spirit that leaves to me that I won't being doing Conker, Smashboards, Smash Videos and even my smash fanarts for Conker so what i'm saying is that I won't be doing this anymore that I will have to accept that Conker will be a spirit that's for all for the Conker fans I believe that Conker will become a spirit of Banjo & Kazooie gets in so if Conker is a spirit then that really shows that spirits do deconfirm fighters, huh... what's the point now that I believe 100% that Conker will become spirit it's over for me. :(
There is no way the witch build is a hint for B-K, it's a slight nod to them at best (but it's pretty much just a generic witch). Someone even tried to tell me that the fact that there was a witch stage, a bird stage, and a bear costume (the Teddi hat; yes, a Persona character, nothing to do with B-K of all things - even the bird has nothing to do with them, it's not even red and is much different) means they could all together be a hint for B-K, which of course makes no sense to me as it's very convoluted I regret considering the chairs seriously.

As for B-K's Spirit Board...I do think the Bear & Bird are likely (pls Sakurai), but their Spirits could just be from their own series, as the Blast Corps and Jet Force Gemini spirits/whatever in the code could be because of a mistake from the Spirits team, as Nintendo still owns some rights to those games' Japanese names. Devil's Third was also in the code.
 
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Thanks for your explain guys and I think I understand why to acknowledge to me in question is Japan really gonna like Conker well I think a spirit for him that people in japan may like Conker and may ask who is Conker and what is his game like and japan are really see Conker as a Donkey Kong and Banjo-Kazooie character then one day in hope that japan may go crazy and do a demand for Conker because he's popular in japan and Nintendo and Microsoft will see that Conker is a character and it will give him a favor to become a fighter it's possible for him even Rare Replay is a rumor but in the thread who wants Rare Replay for the switch???

Here's The Making for Conker Video

 

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Thanks for your explain guys and I think I understand why to acknowledge to me in question is Japan really gonna like Conker well I think a spirit for him that people in japan may like Conker and may ask who is Conker and what is his game like and japan are really see Conker as a Donkey Kong and Banjo-Kazooie character then one day in hope that japan may go crazy and do a demand for Conker because he's popular in japan and Nintendo and Microsoft will see that Conker is a character and it will give him a favor to become a fighter it's possible for him even Rare Replay is a rumor but in the thread who wants Rare Replay for the switch???
If Conker doesn't get in as a spirit, I believe Rare Replay is another way for the squirrel to reach Japanese audiences (there's a high possibility of this happening thanks to Nintendo and Microsoft seemingly working together). Nintendo had a squeaky clean image back then when the game was released but times have changed and the company has been more accepting of Mature games, leading me to believe that Conker's Bad Fur Day would be included in a Japanese copy of Rare Replay on the Switch.
 

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Just curious, what consoles are the Conker games on?
When Nintendo owned Rare:
-Conker's Pocket Tales (Gameboy Colour)
-Conker's Bad Fur Day (Nintendo 64)

Once Microsoft bought Rare:
-Conker: Live & Reloaded (XBOX)
-Project Spark Conker DLC (XBOX One)


Thanks for your explain guys and I think I understand why to acknowledge to me in question is Japan really gonna like Conker well I think a spirit for him that people in japan may like Conker and may ask who is Conker and what is his game like and japan are really see Conker as a Donkey Kong and Banjo-Kazooie character then one day in hope that japan may go crazy and do a demand for Conker because he's popular in japan and Nintendo and Microsoft will see that Conker is a character and it will give him a favor to become a fighter it's possible for him even Rare Replay is a rumor but in the thread who wants Rare Replay for the switch???

Here's The Making for Conker Video

Conker isn't exactly unknown in Japan, thanks to Diddy Kong Racing, which I think it was highly popular at the time, not just in America but also Japan.

I already shared this in a previous page, Nintendo of Japan even bothered to make a cute cartoon commercial for the game.


It's good to see that Japan got to use both Banjo and Conker for something, even if it was only once.
 
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Conker isn't exactly unknown in Japan, thanks to Diddy Kong Racing, which I think it was highly popular at the time, not just in America but also Japan.

I already shared this in a previous page, Nintendo of Japan even bothered to make a cute cartoon commercial for the game.


It's good to see that Japan got to use both Banjo and Conker for something, even if it was only once.
Oh wow! I don't think I've seen this commercial before, it's nice to see Conker featured so prominently in there. Thanks for showing it!

Diddy Kong Racing didn't sell well in Japan compared to other parts of the world, as shown here: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/517/diddy-kong-racing/sales. Because of this, I'd still say Conker's Japanese presence is still extremely lacking given that none of Conker's games (in addition to Project Spark) have appeared in Japan. At the same time, I don't think this matters too much because Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie weren't even close to breaking a million sales in Japan, so it's not like his Japanese presence is outstanding compared to Conker.

While I do believe that Japan is an important region for a character to be known in (considering this game is from Japan), Rare's IPs are primarily popular in North America and Europe (given that it's a Western studio). So any Rare character getting into Smash would prove everyone who thinks Sakurai is xenophobic wrong. Also, I don't think a huge Japanese presence is even an important requirement to getting into Smash. While I do think it could definitely help characters out, just look at Mother 3 which was sold almost exclusively in Japan and had around the same sales as the Banjo games in Japan, yet Lucas made the cut. http://www.vgchartz.com/game/3847/mother-3/summary
 

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Oh wow! I don't think I've seen this commercial before, it's nice to see Conker featured so prominently in there. Thanks for showing it!

Diddy Kong Racing didn't sell well in Japan compared to other parts of the world, as shown here: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/517/diddy-kong-racing/sales. Because of this, I'd still say Conker's Japanese presence is still extremely lacking given that none of Conker's games (in addition to Project Spark) have appeared in Japan. At the same time, I don't think this matters too much because Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie weren't even close to breaking a million sales in Japan, so it's not like his Japanese presence is outstanding compared to Conker.

While I do believe that Japan is an important region for a character to be known in (considering this game is from Japan), Rare's IPs are primarily popular in North America and Europe (given that it's a Western studio). So any Rare character getting into Smash would prove everyone who thinks Sakurai is xenophobic wrong. Also, I don't think a huge Japanese presence is even an important requirement to getting into Smash. While I do think it could definitely help characters out, just look at Mother 3 which was sold almost exclusively in Japan and had around the same sales as the Banjo games in Japan, yet Lucas made the cut. http://www.vgchartz.com/game/3847/mother-3/summary
Not to mention that Metroid's reception in Japan has been historically lacking, not even Other M having heavier Japanese influence into the story did anything to change this. Yet it eventually got more characters in Smash due to its dedicated Western fanbase.
 
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Oh wow! I don't think I've seen this commercial before, it's nice to see Conker featured so prominently in there. Thanks for showing it!

Diddy Kong Racing didn't sell well in Japan compared to other parts of the world, as shown here: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/517/diddy-kong-racing/sales. Because of this, I'd still say Conker's Japanese presence is still extremely lacking given that none of Conker's games (in addition to Project Spark) have appeared in Japan. At the same time, I don't think this matters too much because Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie weren't even close to breaking a million sales in Japan, so it's not like his Japanese presence is outstanding compared to Conker.

While I do believe that Japan is an important region for a character to be known in (considering this game is from Japan), Rare's IPs are primarily popular in North America and Europe (given that it's a Western studio). So any Rare character getting into Smash would prove everyone who thinks Sakurai is xenophobic wrong. Also, I don't think a huge Japanese presence is even an important requirement to getting into Smash. While I do think it could definitely help characters out, just look at Mother 3 which was sold almost exclusively in Japan and had around the same sales as the Banjo games in Japan, yet Lucas made the cut. http://www.vgchartz.com/game/3847/mother-3/summary
No problem. Ouch, that's too bad. But I hope you're right! Not gonna lie, I used to think that Sakurai was a bit xenophobic at first, but fortunately, the presence of Ridley and specially King K.rool proves that Sakurai listens to all fans out there, since these two characters were mostly requested in the West.
Fortunately, Live and Reloaded and Rare Replay got to be present in Japan, but I highly doubt that it got successful sales in there. But I bet that if Rare Replay was ported to the Switch, then more Japanese folks (including Sakurai himself) would be interested in trying it out.

I think those sprites are absolutely amazing! Not only do they nicely resemble Conker, but I believe they also perfectly fit the Super Mario Bros. aesthetic, I'd definitely tweet these out! By the way, I dig your Gargoyle scene a lot more than what I initially thought. Yeah the Context Sensitive pads maybe be important to Conker but that was also an iconic scene from BFD that would fit perfectly in this scenario with Bowser.
Glad you liked them. I also made this image right here, so that Conker can get more of a chance to be one of the chosen characters for the video:
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I changed the colour of Conker's nose from black to dark brown, so that it doesn't get mixed with the background.

Yes please, be sure to mention what would happen, you can mention both of our ideas, so that they can choose the one that they find the most suiting!

Who knows?! maybe this will get more people to consider Conker a good choice for Smash Brothers.

By the way, do any of you have a character you'd like to see in the video? I'm willing to make the Mario-type of NES sprites for them if you want to.

Just be sure to:
-choose a character that suits in the Mario NES sprites (no characters like DK or Ridley, for example).
-choose a character that hasn't already been exposed to this kind of process, not just from HatlovingGamer videos, but also from Mario Maker.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you here. I think it's a bit harsh to call "anime characters" uncreative and unfitting when they each come from very unique, highly successful franchises. There are fans of these characters, including myself, so calling them uncreative is a bit baffling to me because I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate that if people said that about your favorite characters, and like I said, they each come from successful, creative games. In my opinion, I think it's unfair to judge all these characters just based on their art style. Plus, the game is literally from Japan. That anime-esque art style is highly popular and frequently used in Japan so that wouldn't make it unfitting in the slightest. Also, how can you complain about weeb stuff when, once again, this game is literally from Japan! Of course a game made in Japan, along with game franchises made in Japan, would be influenced by Japanese culture and that is exactly what characters like Marth, Shulk, Joker, and other "anime" characters embrace.

This isn't meant to sound rude in the slightest, I just don't understand where you're coming from and I don't think your complaints make any sense...
Yes, the game is Japanese, but just like most of Nintendo games, its target audience is worldwide, so I don't find surprising at all that there are so many people complaining about the unnecessary amount of generic anime swordsmen characters, for example.
The thing is, people expect way more than that from Nintendo. Sure not all of them have to necessarily be cartoon characters, but they should have some interesting and memorable aspects that appeal to an universal crowd, wether in design or abilites. I doubt that I'll ever find those "anime" kind of characters fitting (but that's just me).
 
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Yes, the game is Japanese, but just like most of Nintendo games, its target audience is worldwide, so I don't find surprising at all that there are so many people complaining about the unnecessary amount of generic anime swordsmen characters, for example.
The thing is, people expect way more than that from Nintendo. Sure not all of them have to necessarily be cartoon characters, but they should have some interesting and memorable aspects that appeal to an universal crowd, wether in design or abilites. I doubt that I'll ever find those "anime" kind of characters fitting (but that's just me).
It honestly sounds like you are applying your personal opinions to what is interesting and memorable, despite a lot of "generic anime swordfighters" like :ultchrom::ultlucina::ultike::ultcloud: they can have a long standing fanbase or bring unique abilities to the roster like :ultrobin::ultcorrinf::ultshulk:.

Also I find it extremely ironic that you are arguing in favor of worldwide appeal in a Conker support thread.
 

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It honestly sounds like you are applying your personal opinions to what is interesting and memorable, despite a lot of "generic anime swordfighters" like :ultchrom::ultlucina::ultike::ultcloud: they can have a long standing fanbase or bring unique abilities to the roster like :ultrobin::ultcorrinf::ultshulk:.

Also I find it extremely ironic that you are arguing in favor of worldwide appeal in a Conker support thread.
I really don't see what's so regionally limited about Conker.

by the way, you seem to only reply when something offends you.
 

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Glad you liked them. I also made this image right here, so that Conker can get more of a chance to be one of the chosen characters for the video:

I changed the colour of Conker's nose from black to dark brown, so that it doesn't get mixed with the background.

Yes please, be sure to mention what would happen, you can mention both of our ideas, so that they can choose the one that they find the most suiting!

Who knows?! maybe this will get more people to consider Conker a good choice for Smash Brothers.

By the way, do any of you have a character you'd like to see in the video? I'm willing to make the Mario-type of NES sprites for them if you want to.
That is so awesome! I think you should definitely show this to HatlovingGaming. There's a lot of attention to detail here, like the 80085 and the life icon, I think those are really creative. Also, the spritework is fantastic. Conker and the money look great! I think you did a phenomenal job on this my friend, hopefully we get to see it in the video. Also, thanks, I'll let you know if I can think of any characters.

Yes, the game is Japanese, but just like most of Nintendo games, its target audience is worldwide, so I don't find surprising at all that there are so many people complaining about the unnecessary amount of generic anime swordsmen characters, for example. The thing is, people expect way more than that from Nintendo. Sure not all of them have to necessarily be cartoon characters, but they should have some interesting and memorable aspects that appeal to an universal crowd, wether in design or abilites. I doubt that I'll ever find those "anime" kind of characters fitting (but that's just me).
If this is your opinion, then so be it, there isn't much I can do to change your mind as much as I disagree. I just feel that although the game has a worldwide audience, it still makes sense that it is predominantly influenced by Japanese culture. Do you have the same issue with the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Their target audience is also worldwide, those movies are huge in India and South Korea, yet they are only now just getting to diversifying the cast with Black Panther and the upcoming Shang-Chi. You could say it is predoinantly Americanized, yet I never hear anyone complaining about that. So why should we complain about Japanese influence in a Japanese game? It's expected, and it presents diversity when compared to other forms of media created by other countries.
 
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That is so awesome! I think you should definitely show this to HatlovingGaming. There's a lot of attention to detail here, like the 80085 and the life icon, I think those are really creative. Also, the spritework is fantastic. Conker and the money look great! I think you did a phenomenal job on this my friend, hopefully we get to see it in the video. Also, thanks, I'll let you know if I can think of any characters.
Thank you so much. Once again, I'm really glad that you like my work and its details :).
You mind if you tweet these out to them, please? I don't have a Twitter acount.
Good to know, I'll be looking forward to your choice.

Might be worth noting that if we get lucky, this will be the first time Conker gets included in one of their videos (they even had Banjo Kazooie, once).

If this is your opinion, then so be it, there isn't much I can do to change your mind as much as I disagree. I just feel that although the game has a worldwide audience, it still makes sense that it is predominantly influenced by Japanese culture. Do you have the same issue with the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Their target audience is also worldwide, those movies are huge in India and South Korea, yet they are only now just getting to diversifying the cast with Black Panther and the upcoming Shang-Chi. You could say it is predoinantly Americanized, yet I never hear anyone complaining about that. So why should we complain about Japanese influence in a Japanese game? It's expected, and it presents diversity when compared to other forms of media created by other countries.
Sorry but we can't always share the same opinion on everything. I bet that even soul mates, such as Popo and Nana, don't always think alike.
I'd be fine if there were only like two or three of these characters in Smash, btw.

But you know what, let's just end the topic right here, and move on.



Also, about what we were talking about at the beggining of Page 9:


you know what this means:
POPEYE AND SNOOPY FOR SMASH!!!! :joyful::joyful:

*SIGH* By the way, I miss Stanley the Bugman. it's a real bummer that he was never used for anything again, cuz I really see so much potential in him. :(
I think he should even have his own platforming series where he exterminates bug-type enemies and bosses.

(Sorry if this isn't Conker related).
 
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Thank you so much. Once again, I'm really glad that you like my work and its details :).
You mind if you tweet these out to them, please? I don't have a Twitter acount.
Good to know, I'll be looking forward to your choice.

Might be worth noting that if we get lucky, this will be the first time Conker gets included in one of their videos (they even had Banjo Kazooie, once).
I tweeted it out, and I also sent it to Chris Seavor along with your Super Mario RPG picture, letting him know my friend Mr. Stevenson from Smashboards made them. :)

Sorry but we can't always share the same opinion on everything. I bet that even soul mates, such as Popo and Nana, don't always think alike.
I'd be fine if there were only like two or three of these characters in Smash, btw.

But you know what, let's just end the topic right here, and move on.
Fair enough, I agree.

Also, about what we were talking about at the beggining of Page 9:

you know what this means:
POPEYE AND SNOOPY FOR SMASH!!!! :joyful::joyful:

*SIGH* By the way, I miss Stanley the Bugman. it's a real bummer that he was never used for anything again, cuz I really see so much potential in him. :(
I think he should even have his own platforming series where he exterminates bug-type enemies and bosses.

(Sorry if this isn't Conker related).
It's fine, we don't always need to talk about Conker related topics.

I'd definitely love to see more arcade characters in Smash! Pac-Man is a nice start, but there's a wide array of characters they can go with! Also, I would certainly love to see Popeye represented somewhere, as much as some people would oppose the idea. Stanley the Bugman also needs to make a comeback. Pauline did in Mario Odyssey, so I don't see why Stanley couldn't. There's definitely some untapped potential here. Not sure what it is, but that's why it should be explored by Nintendo.



On a separate note, Chris Seavor recently gave his thoughts on Conker joining the roster. He thinks Conker joining is "wishful thinking" and that he "personally couldn't give less of a ****".

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I would just like to reiterate, this does not affect Conker's chances in the slightest. Chris Seavor is no longer involved with Rare, and does not legally own the rights to Conker. He's just speculating like the rest of us.
 
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I couldn't get the much done now it's here but their is no transparent so don't expect to get one because don't know how to do that much work so this is all I got for now so in a later day i'll try my best to get you guys one now here is Conker's Damage Meter.

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I couldn't get the much done now it's here but their is no transparent so don't expect to get one because don't know how to do that much work so this is all I got for now so in a later day i'll try my best to get you guys one now here is Conker's Damage Meter.
Don't worry, I think I got it for you.

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I tweeted it out, and I also sent it to Chris Seavor along with your Super Mario RPG picture, letting him know my friend Mr. Stevenson from Smashboards made them. :)
I couldn't be more thankfull man :b::b:
I really can't wait to see what Chris Seavor thinks about it.

It's fine, we don't always need to talk about Conker related topics.

I'd definitely love to see more arcade characters in Smash! Pac-Man is a nice start, but there's a wide array of characters they can go with! Also, I would certainly love to see Popeye represented somewhere, as much as some people would oppose the idea. Stanley the Bugman also needs to make a comeback. Pauline did in Mario Odyssey, so I don't see why Stanley couldn't. There's definitely some untapped potential here. Not sure what it is, but that's why it should be explored by Nintendo.
Exactly! Me too, the Arcade times are such a memorable part of both Nintendo and videogame history alike.
I personally think Dig Dug should be in the frontline when it comes to arcade reps, and maybe the Rampage monsters as bosses and/or assist trophies (kind of like Rathalos).
Yes definitely, while I was joking about Snoopy, I was being sincere that Popeye should get some recognition in Smash, even if at the very least they only make trophies/spirits for him and maybe some other characters like Olive Oil, Bluto, Wimpy, and maybe even his iconic can of spinach.
Not only did Popeye get a full arcade cabinet game, produced by Nintendo that was later ported to the NES, it also lead to the creation of two of the most important and iconic characters, not just from Nintendo but also videogames in general.

About Stanley, I really can't see any reason why Nintendo never touched him again. KirbyWorshipper2465 KirbyWorshipper2465 has already mentioned that Nintendo isn't quite confortable in working with characters that weren't created by their crew (like Waluigi and Lanky Kong), but this isn't the case, cuz just like Mario, Stanley was created by Miyamoto.
He could even be some kind of third Mario brother, it's nothing that Miyamoto hasn't thought about already...
http://mariopartylegacy.com/2013/03/a-third-mario-brother-miyamoto-explains/

Of course it's worth mentioning that he is confirmed to be Mario's cousin, but still he could work out.
And I believe that his bugspray would totally make him a unique character in Super Mario Bros, which would lead to the creation of his own Series (just like it happened to Wario, Yoshi and Luigi), where he can use his bugspray with various different powerups (kind of like Contra) to exterminate colourful and creative types of bug enemies and bosses.

On a separate note, Chris Seavor recently gave his thoughts on Conker joining the roster. He thinks Conker joining is "wishful thinking" and that he "personally couldn't give less of a ****".
Oh man, so he does indeed want Conker in the game, despite not having any hope for him. Well that's already refreshing to hear. I think that his last setence is just him wanting to be seen as a professional guy rather than a stereotypical fanboy (could be wrong tho).

Gotta say tho, it's really surprising to even see Crash Bandicoot in there, but not Banjo Kazooie. And it's funny that he wants Geno too.

And geez, that last tweet... Man, that really pisses me off. Do people (including Conker fans, and apparently the creator) only see the squirell as a "drunk potty mouth"?? REALLY???
For ****s sake, come on, anybody who played the game should know that he is much more than that. I'm starting to wonder if more than half of the people who know Conker, only heard of him or saw a bit of Bad Fur Day on Youtube. With the presence of characters who are alot more controversial, how the hell would he still not work out??? I really don't get it.
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But it even hurts my soul that even Chris Seavor sees him that way :(.
 
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Seavor didn't actually make that image, he found it on 4chan and said that the person who made it, made it with wishful thinking. That implies that he thinks Conker is impossible. In addition, Seavor flat out said he couldn't give less of a **** if Conker made it in or not, so he doesn't necessarily want him either... It sucks, but, we shouldn't let that bring down our spirit. While he may be the creator, like I already said, he in no way affects Conker's chances.

Mr. Stevenson Mr. Stevenson I completely forgot about Dig Dug! While I don't know how he'd be as a fighter, I think he'd be a really neat Assist Trophy! Characters like Dig Dug, Frogger, and Stanley are very iconic parts of the arcade era, and being that Smash is a celebration of gaming history, I think it's only fitting that these memorable characters are represented in some form, whether it's Assist Trophy, Spirit, or playable character.

Unfortunately for Stanley, Miyamoto (or perhaps Nintendo as a whole) likes to create one-off characters in the Mario universe who play an important role in one game, and then live the rest of their lives through cameos. Majority of them are RPG characters like Geno, Mallow, Stufflow, Goombella, and the Shroobs. But this also extends to other characters like Stanley the Bugman. I don't know why this is the case, but characters with a lot of potential are constantly entering the Mario universe, only to be cast away and rarely ever seen again. There are very few exceptions to this rule, such as Pauline and Rosalina, but these miracle cases hardly ever happen.
 
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Seavor didn't actually make that image, he found it on 4chan and said that the person who made it, made it with wishful thinking. That implies that he thinks Conker is impossible. In addition, Seavor flat out said he couldn't give less of a **** if Conker made it in or not, so he doesn't necessarily want him either... It sucks, but, we shouldn't let that bring down our spirit. While he may be the creator, like I already said, he in no way affects Conker's chances.
Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up.
Man it's absolutely unbelievable that Chris doesn't care if the main character from his best creation gets added into possibly the best crossover in videogames of all time. That's extremely disappointing.
But yeah, thanks for mentioning it, it's great to know that he doesn't own the rights to the character, so we really shouldn't be bothered by his comment.

Mr. Stevenson Mr. Stevenson Mr. Stevenson Mr. Stevenson I completely forgot about Dig Dug! While I don't know how he'd be as a fighter, I think he'd be a really neat Assist Trophy! Characters like Dig Dug, Frogger, and Stanley are very iconic parts of the arcade era, and being that Smash is a celebration of gaming history, I think it's only fitting that these memorable characters are represented in some form, whether it's Assist Trophy, Spirit, or playable character.
Yeah now that I think about it, his only ability is to inflate his enemies until they blow up, so yeah maybe assist trophy is the best option, but still I doubt Nintendo would be ok with that kind of thing happening to their precious characters, even if it was handled in a cartoony and unrealistic way (not to mention how much work it would take to animate every single character in Smash being inflated).
I see Smash as a celebration of gaming history that's related to Nintendo, but yeah it would be great if those characters were added, wether as assist trophies or playable fighters, cuz they are iconic in their own way and definitely fit in Smash.

Unfortunately for Stanley, Miyamoto (or perhaps Nintendo as a whole) likes to create one-off characters in the Mario universe who play an important role in one game, and then live the rest of their lives through cameos. Majority of them are RPG characters like Geno, Mallow, Stufflow, Goombella, and the Shroobs. But this also extends to other characters like Stanley the Bugman. I don't know why this is the case, but characters with a lot of potential are constantly entering the Mario universe, only to be cast away and rarely ever seen again. There are very few exceptions to this rule, such as Pauline and Rosalina, but these miracle cases hardly ever happen.
Ugh geez, it's the same fate as Fang, Bean and Bark all over again.
But well, it is rumoured that a sequel to Super Mario Odyssey is in the works, so who knows? Maybe this time, Stanley will be aknowledged by his true potential and get the chance to shine and become a super star.
 

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I think the only reason Stanley is the only DK star that hasn't been touched is that unlike DK and DK Jr., his game wasn't nearly as beloved at launch, mainly because it was so different from its predecessors. It only had been vindicated decades later, when people came to appreciate the change of pace it provided.

If his game left a big impact, maybe then he wouldn't have been left behind.
 

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I think the only reason Stanley is the only DK star that hasn't been touched is that unlike DK and DK Jr., his game wasn't nearly as beloved at launch, mainly because it was so different from its predecessors. It only had been vindicated decades later, when people came to appreciate the change of pace it provided.

If his game left a big impact, maybe then he wouldn't have been left behind.
Oh ok, thanks. That does seem plausible, I guess.
Either way, I'm still hoping that Nintendo will one day aknowledge what potential he carries (and include him in a possible sequel to Mario Odyssey, like I mentioned in my previous post).



So, we've already discussed about alot of content from the Conker series that could potentially be included in one of Smash's categories (items, assist trophies, spirits etc).
But we haven't put our minds that much on Conker's soundtracks.

Yes, we have suggested some of our favourites that we would like to see getting added, but this time, I wanna look more into which ones can make the cut, or better yet which ones can't...

So far, the only soundtracks that I think might not get the green pass are these:



The first one isn't that much of a soundtrack, it's just a compilation of frightening sounds, unlike the second one.
Either way, as insane as it would be to hear these two tracks in the Luigi's Mansion stage, I highly doubt that Nintendo would be fine with the presence of twisted sounds of babies crying and children laughing, and not to mention the zombies growling.

Man, I know the game isn't for kids but for a Nintendo cartoony platformer, this is really ****ed up!!!
And that is one of the many aspects I love about the game, not every game can have soundtracks that are able to produce an outstanding effect that completely changes the tone of the game.
One time you're rolling balls of poo, the other you're blowing Zombies' brains out with a shotgun, and you can easily feel those drastic changes.

Speaking of poo...

Bummer because this is one of my favourite soundtracks from the game. You think they'll let the farting sounds slip by? I mean one of Wario's abilities is to fart afterall...

And last but not least:
Ah yes who could forget about this one.
Well I bet that this would be acceptable if they just exclude Great Mighty Poo's lyrics.


I'd like to say that I am really proud of the effort that we've been putting on this thread. It's really good to see that so far, Conker is the 2nd Rare character with the most support (right after Banjo Kazooie) on this site, and if we keep it up, our squirell fella might get to be the second most supported Microsoft character :bluejump::bee:.
 
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Hey it's back round 2 today it's a story of how we take our chance to be a scammer well I never scam anyone I would never do that well I been scammed before so here's the story. I was in my closet doing what I do look for something tell my brother came in and ask for a dollar to buy the Sims 4 for his Computer, he said would pay me back right now so I give to him the money then asks my dad if he could buy the game then done, I wait for 9 hours in 1 day, now I realize that I was scammed and he did to me sometimes when he was little I ask him to pay this day and he don't remember asking me that that's bull @#$% in this day so take it look Conker's story.


Now I ask you, did you ever scam someone or been scammed by someone in your life???
 

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Oh ok, thanks. That does seem plausible, I guess.
Either way, I'm still hoping that Nintendo will one day aknowledge what potential he carries (and include him in a possible sequel to Mario Odyssey, like I mentioned in my previous post).
I think Stanley playing a role in a Mario Odyssey sequel would be very fitting. Mario Odyssey's most iconic locale is New Donk City, and that's where Pauline and a buttload of DK references are. You've got Dixie Street, Rambi Street, Rattley Street, Cranky Street, etc: all named after DK characters. So with Odyssey's big connection to the DK franchise, I think it's only fitting for Stanley to show up in the game's sequel.

Also, I'm glad Sakurai didn't forget about Stanley. At least he made it into Ultimate as a Spirit!

So, we've already discussed about alot of content from the Conker series that could potentially be included in one of Smash's categories (items, assist trophies, spirits etc).
But we haven't put our minds that much on Conker's soundtracks.

Yes, we have suggested some of our favourites that we would like to see getting added, but this time, I wanna look more into which ones can make the cut, or better yet which ones can't...

So far, the only soundtracks that I think might not get the green pass are these:

The first one isn't that much of a soundtrack, it's just a compilation of frightening sounds, unlike the second one.
Either way, as insane as it would be to hear these two tracks in the Luigi's Mansion stage, I highly doubt that Nintendo would be fine with the presence of twisted sounds of babies crying and children laughing, and not to mention the zombies growling.

Man, I know the game isn't for kids but for a Nintendo cartoony platformer, this is really ****ed up!!!
And that is one of the many aspects I love about the game, not every game can have soundtracks that are able to produce an outstanding effect that completely changes the tone of the game.
One time you're rolling balls of poo, the other you're blowing Zombies' brains out with a shotgun, and you can easily feel those drastic changes.

Speaking of poo...

Bummer because this is one of my favourite soundtracks from the game. You think they'll let the farting sounds slip by? I mean one of Wario's abilities is to fart afterall...

And last but not least:

Ah yes who could forget about this one.
Well I bet that this would be acceptable if they just exclude Great Mighty Poo's lyrics.

I'd like to say that I am really proud of the effort that we've been putting on this thread. It's really good to see that so far, Conker is the 2nd Rare character with the most support (right after Banjo Kazooie) on this site, and if we keep it up, our squirell fella might get to be the second most supported Microsoft character :bluejump::bee:.
I agree that Windy Graveyard and Undead wouldn't make the cut for the reasons you provided. I feel like Undead would have a better chance of making it in, but who knows if they would be okay including those sounds like you mentioned. Now that you mention it, I never really noticed how creepy Undead is. Normally when I'm playing through that level, I'm so focused on killing zombies and finding the keys but if you were to stand still and just take in the atmosphere and music, it can definitely be unsettling...

Also, the fact that BFD's soundtrack jumps to so many different genres and sounds is something I also appreciate about the game. Robin Beanland did a fantastic job giving each area of the game its own feel, and no matter how drastic the music changed between areas, nothing ever felt out of place, and the soundtrack itself never felt convoluted either. Big props to him!

Poo is definitely a soundtrack I want to see in Smash too! It's one of the best songs in the entire game and really nails down the fact that you're literally walking through a ****ty level. I don't see why Nintendo would have an issue with it because like you said, Wario has a fart attack. Also, it's not like Nintendo would have an issue using the word "poo" in Smash because one of Ness' friends is named Poo, and he appears as a Spirit. So I don't see why this one would be a problem...



As for Sloprano, yeah... Definitely cannot include those lyrics in the game. It is a shame because I too enjoy that song, but alas, it is what it is. I would welcome an instrumental version.

And same, I'm very proud how far we've come as a Conker community. In the middle of Februrary, we were on Page 1. Two months later and we are twice that amount. We may not be the biggest community on the site, but that's completely fine. As long as we enjoy talking about Conker, this thread will continue to grow. And, that may inspire others to join our cause because we are displaying a relentless enthusiasm whenever the thread grows a new page.
 

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Hey it's back round 2 today it's a story of how we take our chance to be a scammer well I never scam anyone I would never do that well I been scammed before so here's the story. I was in my closet doing what I do look for something tell my brother came in and ask for a dollar to buy the Sims 4 for his Computer, he said would pay me back right now so I give to him the money then asks my dad if he could buy the game then done, I wait for 9 hours in 1 day, now I realize that I was scammed and he did to me sometimes when he was little I ask him to pay this day and he don't remember asking me that that's bull @#$% in this day so take it look Conker's story.


Now I ask you, did you ever scam someone or been scammed by someone in your life???
Man, that's really cool, I personally like this one more than the first one you showed.
Once again, the voices are perfectly spot on and the story is brilliant, I loved seeing Conker being partners with that little snail, now I want this to be Canon!
The animation even reminds me of the Ren and Stimpy show.

Funny cuz my case is kind of similiar to Conker's. There was one time I was at a friends house, we ordered Pizza while we were playing Batman Arkham City. Little did he know that I already had played the story mode of both Arkham Asylum and Arkham city two times, so he got stuck at one part and kept on dying over and over again. I simply said "It's not that hard", and he replied something like "oh yeah?! Well if you can beat this at first try I'll pay for the whole price of the Pizza. And that's what happened, he didn't even realize at first, that it was a scam.

I don't think I ever got scammed in a bet, but there was one time, something similar to your story happened to me. I lent one of my favourite games to a schoolmate, several months later when school ended, he said he lost it (yeah, right). I kept on scolding and even insulting him while demanding that he'd either give me the money I paid for the game or buy me a new one, he then said that he would buy me a new one when school starts. Fortunately, since I still wanted to play it at my summer vacation, I saw it online, noticed that it wasn't expensive at all, and so I decided to buy it, I was gonna change school anyways.
So here's a tip, don't lend anything even to a friend, unless you have extreme confidence with them (sadly I made this kind of mistake more than once :scared:).

I think Stanley playing a role in a Mario Odyssey sequel would be very fitting. Mario Odyssey's most iconic locale is New Donk City, and that's where Pauline and a buttload of DK references are. You've got Dixie Street, Rambi Street, Rattley Street, Cranky Street, etc: all named after DK characters. So with Odyssey's big connection to the DK franchise, I think it's only fitting for Stanley to show up in the game's sequel.

Also, I'm glad Sakurai didn't forget about Stanley. At least he made it into Ultimate as a Spirit!
Exactly, that's where I wanted to get at, considering the whole connection between Mario and DK, it'd be the perfect opportunity to revive him. If they do make a Super Mario Odyssey 2, then I hope they take these DK references to a whole new level. Imagine how amazing it'd be if they'd reference Banjo and Conker in some sort of way :b:. Don't forget that they're DK characters too, even if they're not owned by Nintendo anymore.

Still disappointed that there was no Lanky street tho :(:(

Yes, it is good to see that Smash Brothers did not forget about him, he has also appeared as a trophy in Melee and Smash 4. Unfortunately, not every Retro character (such as Mr. Stev... I mean me :grin:) is lucky enough to get at least, a bit of recognition.

I agree that Windy Graveyard and Undead wouldn't make the cut for the reasons you provided. I feel like Undead would have a better chance of making it in, but who knows if they would be okay including those sounds like you mentioned. Now that you mention it, I never really noticed how creepy Undead is. Normally when I'm playing through that level, I'm so focused on killing zombies and finding the keys but if you were to stand still and just take in the atmosphere and music, it can definitely be unsettling...

Also, the fact that BFD's soundtrack jumps to so many different genres and sounds is something I also appreciate about the game. Robin Beanland did a fantastic job giving each area of the game its own feel, and no matter how drastic the music changed between areas, nothing ever felt out of place, and the soundtrack itself never felt convoluted either. Big props to him!

Poo is definitely a soundtrack I want to see in Smash too! It's one of the best songs in the entire game and really nails down the fact that you're literally walking through a ****ty level. I don't see why Nintendo would have an issue with it because like you said, Wario has a fart attack. Also, it's not like Nintendo would have an issue using the word "poo" in Smash because one of Ness' friends is named Poo, and he appears as a Spirit. So I don't see why this one would be a problem...



As for Sloprano, yeah... Definitely cannot include those lyrics in the game. It is a shame because I too enjoy that song, but alas, it is what it is. I would welcome an instrumental version.
Windy Graveyard is definitely too terrifying for a kids' game.
But yeah, since those sounds are very brief in Undead, maybe they'll let that one off the hook.
I hope so, cuz I really love that one too, always gives me so many chills.

Really? I immediately got shocked and kind of unsettled the moment I heard that soundtrack the first time I got to that chapter. The sounds of babies crying and children laughing specially, make it so freaking creepy!

Imagine how creepy it’d be if you would play one of these two tracks while you’re at the woods in the middle of the night. :skull::ohwell:

Well, thanks for clearing it up, maybe Nintendo won't have any problem with Poo after all.
Gotta say, not every soundtrack that includes nonsensical farting noises manages to be so charming and artistic at the same time.

And same, I'm very proud how far we've come as a Conker community. In the middle of Februrary, we were on Page 1. Two months later and we are twice that amount. We may not be the biggest community on the site, but that's completely fine. As long as we enjoy talking about Conker, this thread will continue to grow. And, that may inspire others to join our cause because we are displaying a relentless enthusiasm whenever the thread grows a new page.
Indeed, we have come a long way in this past two months.
Honestly, I don't mind at all the thread not being that big, in fact, I personally really like it this way, it's rather chill and calm. And you know what they say: Quality over Quantity.
 
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A mixture of Ryu and Pikachu you say... That does sound pretty interesting!
It's great to think about it when you start knowing the character at first but even also in this site their is a Heihachi thread somewhere but don't worry I have the link to the thread The King of Iron Fist you don't need to support him even because you may not like him or do like him but don't think he will get in, I found out that Heihachi may be likely to be DLC such as Banjo & Kazooie he even also appear spin-off titles like Project X Zone games on the 3DS and Pac Man Fever on the Gamecube, Tekken also made it in Nintendo consoles such as Tekken Advance on the GBA and The Wii U Edition of Tekken Tag Tournament 2 so that says Tekken had appear in Nintendo consoles and handhelds. Even Heihachi makes more sense and why even because Tekken start all of this, that's how and why 3d fighting games exist because of Tekken, Tekken even has sold more then Mortal Kombat, Street Fighters even Smash Brothers itself Tekken 3 sold over 8.5 million and Tekken 5 sold over 8.2 million so Tekken sells a lot more for Namco when it comes to 3d Fighting games, Heihachi is the iconic face in Tekken even Bandai Namco uses Heihachi for their crossovers when representing Tekken so Heihachi is the character to represent 3d fighting games.


Even if you never played Tekken and don't know who Heihachi really is then here's this video it will explain the history of Heihachi and his family it's crazy then you think of the history of Tekken.


Really their are so many to explain but that will be next time to I feel explaining myself to you guys. This soundtrack is called the Mishima Dojo from Tekken 7 I listen to this music multiple times that gives the vibes for Heihachi that he would get in so really I let you listen to this soundtrack and tell me what you think about this soundtrack and Heihachi himself.

 
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CipherPool CipherPool You probably already know about this, but I’ll share it anyway:



EDIT: I should probably mention that I decided to show you this because I thought it was a pretty funny and clever way of representing him, not because I see it as a disconfirmation for Heihachi to be added to the Roster.
 
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Not sure what that's supposed to mean, Duck Hunt can fight on Duck Hunt.
For your information, I wasn't speculating that this would be interpreted as a disconfirmation, I just heard about it recently, and thought that it was pretty cool that they decided to represent him in a creative way.

And since the guy happens to be a fan of Tekken, I decided to show it, even if he probably already knew about it.
 

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CipherPool CipherPool You probably already know about this, but I’ll share it anyway:



EDIT: I should probably mention that I decided to show you this because I thought it was a pretty funny and clever way of representing him, not because I see it as a disconfirmation for Heihachi to be added to the Roster.
You are absolutely right by the way but I don't see a 8-bit taunt deconfirming a namco character including Heihachi now ask myself "hmm ok, now what does this mean for Heihachi's future it's pretty odd for Heihachi fans to think otherwise for his future becoming a fighter. I don't see a taunt deconfirm a character like a Mii Costume, Assist Trophies and expectantly Spirits if we know or don't know and I noticed on my Smash Ultimate DLC Prediction video smash fans didn't mention the :ultpacman:taunt at all I didn't see one person saying that Heihachi is in smash but as a taunt for :ultpacman:that deconfirms him, well osby osby was right about :ultduckhunt: fighting :ultduckhunt: and their other things like :ulttoonlink: as a Stage character for Spirit Train and even we have :ultchrom: in smash and people think that :ultrobin:'s Final Smash would change but rather they kept it so it's weird that :ultrobin:'s Final Smash still has :ultchrom: and we have playable:ultchrom:. So if even Heihachi were to get in we absolutely don't if they would remove the 8-bit Heihachi for :ultpacman:'s taunt so I think they won't remove the if Heihachi is a fighter this is just speculation we'll take this for example.

 

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It's great to think about it when you start knowing the character at first but even also in this site their is a Heihachi thread somewhere but don't worry I have the link to the thread The King of Iron Fist you don't need to support him even because you may not like him or do like him but don't think he will get in, I found out that Heihachi may be likely to be DLC such as Banjo & Kazooie he even also appear spin-off titles like Project X Zone games on the 3DS and Pac Man Fever on the Gamecube, Tekken also made it in Nintendo consoles such as Tekken Advance on the GBA and The Wii U Edition of Tekken Tag Tournament 2 so that says Tekken had appear in Nintendo consoles and handhelds. Even Heihachi makes more sense and why even because Tekken start all of this, that's how and why 3d fighting games exist because of Tekken, Tekken even has sold more then Mortal Kombat, Street Fighters even Smash Brothers itself Tekken 3 sold over 8.5 million and Tekken 5 sold over 8.2 million so Tekken sells a lot more for Namco when it comes to 3d Fighting games, Heihachi is the iconic face in Tekken even Bandai Namco uses Heihachi for their crossovers when representing Tekken so Heihachi is the character to represent 3d fighting games.

Even if you never played Tekken and don't know who Heihachi really is then here's this video it will explain the history of Heihachi and his family it's crazy then you think of the history of Tekken.

Really their are so many to explain but that will be next time to I feel explaining myself to you guys. This soundtrack is called the Mishima Dojo from Tekken 7 I listen to this music multiple times that gives the vibes for Heihachi that he would get in so really I let you listen to this soundtrack and tell me what you think about this soundtrack and Heihachi himself.
Thanks for sharing all of this info on Heihachi! Tekken is a franchise I am not too familiar with, so I'll definitely have to watch these videos when I get the chance. I've always liked the idea of having fighting game characters in Smash, like Ryu and Ken, which is also one of the reasons I've been supporting Scorpion from Mortal Kombat. And wow, looking at those sales numbers, Tekken is definitely Smash-worthy in my opinion. I guess it just falls upon Sakurai now. You already probably know this, but Sakurai considered Heihachi in Smash 4 but wasn't able to figure out how to make him work. Hopefully Sakurai is able to figure that out Heihachi's move-set because he is a character I definitely wouldn't mind seeing!



In other news, I found this recent article that summarizes what's been going on between Microsoft and Nintendo these past few months. It just makes me more excited for E3. While I definitely shouldn't be expecting anything to avoid disappointment, I can't help but feel that E3 is the perfect time for those two companies to announce something huge (as it is a gaming event they are both attending without Sony). With each day, we get closer and closer to the event! Now I know we've already discussed the idea of Rare Replay coming to the Switch or Banjo being announced at E3, but I have another idea of what they could announce. I will admit, it's a bit of a stretch, but not something I see as impossible. https://www.businessinsider.com/nintendo-working-with-xbox-2019-4#3-xbox-live-on-nintendo-switch-3

If you look at the new Battletoads game, you'll see that it's being developed by both Rare and Diala Studios. In other words, Rare has asked another company to lead development on a new game for one of their classic IPs. Well, what if Rare does the same thing with Banjo-Kazooie and Conker, but this time asking Nintendo to help out? That to me would be mind blowing. Others have pointed out that Playtonic would be the better company to develop a new Banjo/Conker because that's where a lot of the former Rare employees went, but apparently Yooka-Laylee wasn't too good of a game so Nintendo may be more trusted with the franchises. Who knows, but regardless, I wonder how Nintendo's influence would shake up these worlds.

And you may be concerned about Nintendo's kid-friendly hands getting all over Conker's mature franchise. The thing is, since Conker is already an established franchise, I feel like Nintendo would respect that and not try to make the series more appealing to kids. After all, they have been more lenient with mature games on their consoles in recent years. I also see this sort of like a parallel to what's going on at Disney right now. Disney bought parts of FOX and now have access to franchises like the X-Men, Fantastic Four, and Deadpool. Those franchises are being planned to join the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Instead of Disney making Deadpool squeaky-clean, CEO Bob Iger instead stated that "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" and has decided to respect Deadpool for what it is, ensuring fans that Deadpool will remain mature as he joins the MCU.
 
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Mr. Stevenson

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You are absolutely right by the way but I don't see a 8-bit taunt deconfirming a namco character including Heihachi now ask myself "hmm ok, now what does this mean for Heihachi's future it's pretty odd for Heihachi fans to think otherwise for his future becoming a fighter. I don't see a taunt deconfirm a character like a Mii Costume, Assist Trophies and expectantly Spirits if we know or don't know and I noticed on my Smash Ultimate DLC Prediction video smash fans didn't mention the :ultpacman:taunt at all I didn't see one person saying that Heihachi is in smash but as a taunt for :ultpacman:that deconfirms him, well osby osby was right about :ultduckhunt: fighting :ultduckhunt: and their other things like :ulttoonlink: as a Stage character for Spirit Train and even we have :ultchrom: in smash and people think that :ultrobin:'s Final Smash would change but rather they kept it so it's weird that :ultrobin:'s Final Smash still has :ultchrom: and we have playable:ultchrom:. So if even Heihachi were to get in we absolutely don't if they would remove the 8-bit Heihachi for :ultpacman:'s taunt so I think they won't remove the if Heihachi is a fighter this is just speculation we'll take this for example.

I think you're missing the point, I was saying that I don't think this disconfirms Heihachi from becoming a DLC fighter AT ALL!! I just liked the idea of having Pacman wielding his sprite in one of his taunts, that's all! I'm pretty sure that if they wanted to clear him out of the way, they would have added a spirit of Heihachi. After all Bandai Namco were part of the development team of Ultimate, so it's really surprising that we don't have any Namco spirits outside of Pacman.

Thanks for sharing all of this info on Heihachi! Tekken is a franchise I am not too familiar with, so I'll definitely have to watch these videos when I get the chance. I've always liked the idea of having fighting game characters in Smash, like Ryu and Ken, which is also one of the reasons I've been supporting Scorpion from Mortal Kombat. And wow, looking at those sales numbers, Tekken is definitely Smash-worthy in my opinion. I guess it just falls upon Sakurai now. You already probably know this, but Sakurai considered Heihachi in Smash 4 but wasn't able to figure out how to make him work. Hopefully Sakurai is able to figure that out Heihachi's move-set because he is a character I definitely wouldn't mind seeing!



In other news, I found this recent article that summarizes what's been going on between Microsoft and Nintendo these past few months. It just makes me more excited for E3. While I definitely shouldn't be expecting anything to avoid disappointment, I can't help but feel that E3 is the perfect time for those two companies to announce something huge (as it is a gaming event they are both attending without Sony). With each day, we get closer and closer to the event! Now I know we've already discussed the idea of Rare Replay coming to the Switch or Banjo being announced at E3, but I have another idea of what they could announce. I will admit, it's a bit of a stretch, but not something I see as impossible. https://www.businessinsider.com/nintendo-working-with-xbox-2019-4#3-xbox-live-on-nintendo-switch-3

If you look at the new Battletoads game, you'll see that it's being developed by both Rare and Diala Studios. In other words, Rare has asked another company to lead development on a new game for one of their classic IPs. Well, what if Rare does the same thing with Banjo-Kazooie and Conker, but this time asking Nintendo to help out? That to me would be mind blowing. Others have pointed out that Playtonic would be the better company to develop a new Banjo/Conker because that's where a lot of the former Rare employees went, but apparently Yooka-Laylee wasn't too good of a game so Nintendo may be more trusted with the franchises. Who knows, but regardless, I wonder how Nintendo's influence would shake up these worlds.

And you may be concerned about Nintendo's kid-friendly hands getting all over Conker's mature franchise. The thing is, since Conker is already an established franchise, I feel like Nintendo would respect that and not try to make the series more appealing to kids. After all, they have been more lenient with mature games on their consoles in recent years. I also see this sort of like a parallel to what's going on at Disney right now. Disney bought parts of FOX and now have access to franchises like the X-Men, Fantastic Four, and Deadpool. Those franchises are being planned to join the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Instead of Disney making Deadpool squeaky-clean, CEO Bob Iger instead stated that "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" and has decided to respect Deadpool for what it is, ensuring fans that Deadpool will remain mature as he joins the MCU.
I am going to try to not getting my hopes that high cuz I can't stand being disappointed like that. I think I'll not even watch it LIVE.

Nintendo really isn't what it used to be two decades ago, nowadays they don't have that much trouble leaving their confort zone and contradict a little to their kid-friendly image. So there's no issue for Conker to get a fitting moveset that stays true to his character and his wacky abilities.
The only thing left now is for Conker to get more relevant and yeah, Rare Replay coming to the Switch is the perfect opportunity for that (I just hope it isn't too late). Who knows, maybe there'll be a second fighter pass...

Is Deadpool really coming to the MCU? Oh man, than this can become a movie afterall:
 

CipherPool

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I see something to my head of wanting Banjo & Kazooie and Heihachi for smash sense they both make sense, I found this Mii Costume concept for those two series if Banjo & Kazooie and Heihachi were to get well if we could see it coming at first.

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EDIT: Can someone think what Conker's Mii Costume would be for his series?
 
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