6/27/2009 GIGABITS - Freedom to Melee - FEATURING DASHIZWIZ AND LUCKY AND MANGOOOO!!!

[PolMex23]

cabron de tras de ti idiota.

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xD xD ahahahaha

yesss

De tras de ti imbecil

 

[Loto]

learning a language is prefrence u guys are saying its easier because spanish is more common than most others but i know other languages and think they r just as easy as spanish and alpha i ment black and im in fl already but ill see who will go and try to get u a ride

it's fact that Spanish is one of the easiest languages to learn in general because of how everything is said and sounds in spanish is how its spelled as well. Yeah it might not seem easy for us because we learned english first but while teaching a child english and spanish at the same time spanish will be easier to grasp.

And also what apollo said.

:D

 

[Handorin]

Spanish might be phonetic, but German is phonetic AND a lot of the words used look and sound similar in English.

 

[Loto]

Spanish might be phonetic, but German is phonetic AND a lot of the words used look and sound similar in English.

Wow, you have that opinion because you learned english FIRST. I'm saying if you were to learn a language with no basis which one would be easier? It's spanish.

 

[Handorin]

Even with my English bias out the window, the other statements still stand.

It's phonetic (meaning you say a word exactly how it is spelled and vice versa). It's grammar structure is also extremely easy to get used to (and makes more sense than English at times).

 

[RockCrock]

So is Mango coming to this or not?

 

[Galuuda]

Dennis........DOTA GOGO

 

[PB&J]

he is..and how is something easier to learn then something else..that is an opinion..something easy for one can be hard for others

 

[shalom]

he is..and how is something easier to learn then something else..that is an opinion..something easy for one can be hard for others

That's true, but it can be generally agreed upon that something is easier to learn than something else. Surely, you would agree 1 + 1 = 2 is easier of a concept to grasp than 9 * 9.

 

[lamugi]

Mango will get *****

 

[PB&J]

what does math have to do with learning a language

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

what does math have to do with learning a language

LOL

10equations

 

[shalom]

what does math have to do with learning a language

You said how can something be easier to learn than something else because its all opinion. I gave an example to show that although it may be opinion there are things that are generally agreed upon to be easier to learn than others. That's how it has to do with math.

 

[exarch]

Actually quite a lot.

Pronunciation follow rules as do grammar structures which really don't differ much cognitively from the rules in mathematics. Learning to think analytically and critically is something which must be learned in mathematics and is one of the most useful skills for anyone to have; it's applicable in SO many situations.

However the argument he offered functioned only on logical grounds, so your question doesn't make any sense anyways.

Aaaaand I wont be attending this.

 

[crispyone]

I understand that we're trying to build hype, but don't put Mango in the Thread Subject if he isn't confirmed. False advertising!

PB&J, get mind****ed by shalom and exarch.

 

[PolMex23]

crispy if you are here than im ****** you xD

Its time...the new falcon...stomp outta shield hurts xD

 

[SynikaL]

All truths are social constructs... from our conceptions of language to numbers.

There are no absolutes; only consensus.


-Kimo

 

[QDVS]

Get intelligent discussioned!!!

 

[shalom]

All truths are social constructs... from our conceptions of language to numbers.

There are no absolutes; only consensus.


-Kimo

Wise Kimosabee, but this is actually what I said, but not as eloquent as you did (pertaining to language) lol I agree with you that language and numbers are social constructs, but there are laws of nature that are absolutes. However, this is in no place to talk about this at all lol

 

[SynikaL]

"Laws of nature that are absolutes"?

Man constructs laws and abides by them with consistency in an effort to understand everything around him through the limitations of his perceptions. He calls his surroundings the "universe".

It didn't name itself.


-Kimo

 

[exarch]

So wait,

isn't "There are no absolutes," an absolute?


Then that statement is a contradiction, proving there must be absolutes.

 

[shalom]

First off, lol at exarch you broke that down pretty easily. But yes there are laws of nature that are absolutes, such as newton's law of gravitation. Yes, man might have discovered it and named it, but does not mean he created it. The law of gravity would always exist even if it was not named.

Furthermore, bringing up an example of us naming the world around us the "universe" is a bad example because the use of words and names is for lack of a better word to make things universal. If the world consisted of people constantly making up their own names for things it would just be ridiculous. (Even though this happens to some degree)

 

[SynikaL]

Hmm.

I don't believe a grammatical slip falsifies the idea.

What is an "absolute"?

A construct in itself; a concept to facilitate reason.

Justifiable reason is still filtered through consensus.


-Kimo

 

[blindghost]

Hmm.

I don't believe a grammatical slip falsifies the idea.

-Kimo

That wasn't a grammatical slip. Maybe diction... And we're getting all philosophical on ****in smashboards... wtf

 

[SynikaL]

I guess I can't really argue against fundamental "things", such as what we call "gravity".

I wonder about the formulas that articulate them though...

*edit*

Ghost, you're right. "Dictional" would have been a better word.


-Kye

 

[shalom]

That wasn't a grammatical slip. Maybe diction... And we're getting all philosophical on ****in smashboards... wtf

Lol come on we know it was a mistake of diction, but we clearly understood what he meant.

 

[exarch]

So then, you argue there are things which are not included sets "X" and "not X?"

Oh and PS Newtonian gravity has been replaced by general relativity now.

 

[SynikaL]

Hey Exarch, think you could recommend any good beginners books/websites/ whatever for someone who was pretty ****ty at mathematics in high school, but has a newfound interest in physics?

*edit*

What are you basing that question off of? I cannot argue that noumenal reality does not exist or is a human construct.

At least, not without thinking about it long and hard, first.

-Kimo

 

[PolMex23]

Kye ive always wondered why,

the general populous has somewhat no control on the laws that dictate their living, due to it being formed by a small group of elitists.

Replace laws with anything, an that statement is still true.

I just never understood why we have to conform to "society" due to the task of breaking out of conformity is to grand for any man. And the attempt of changing ones direction leads to somewhat utter doomed corruption.

If you want I can explain better, but I hope you catch my drift.

 

[shalom]

Kye ive always wondered why,

the general populous has somewhat no control on the laws that dictate their living, due to it being formed by a small group of elitists.

Replace laws with anything, an that statement is still true.

I just never understood why we have to conform to "society" due to the task of breaking out of conformity is to grand for any man. And the attempt of changing ones direction leads to somewhat utter doomed corruption.

If you want I can explain better, but I hope you catch my drift.

You do vote for the representative that upholds your ideals and views most.

 

[SynikaL]

Ron Paul's money isn't loud enough.

Polmex:

I think man "conforms" simply due to wanting a harmonious existence. We're social creatures they say -- social creatures in a capitalist hierarchy that perpetuates inequalities in the structure. Being content is just easier.

-Kye

 

[exarch]

So then, you argue there are things which are not included sets "X" and "not X?"

Because if not then there either are absolutes or there aren't, and if their aren't then concept itself sets a contradiction.
And if so, then logic as a whole fails and what I'm typing can't really be understood by anyoen5atkelabt tjklaf2iv jtea4sg jiowt

Basically, we must assume there are absolutes and logic; otherwise humans cannot understand anything, and "GJKDA TJKJ JVIEW" becomes as valid an argument as this.

Spoiler

And no one is allowed to respond with GJKDA TJKJ JVIEW or something like it just to be funny.

Syn-
I don't know off the top of my head; but I do find it surprising you didn't do well in Math, as you're among the most logically sound people on smashboards; I assume it was a teacher who ruined any chance you had with Math (as it is IMO for everyone who dislikes it.) However to do any quote unquote real physics requires a grasp of calculus, which is basically like Algebra 3 or 4.

That said, my father has his masters in physics and works at UF so I can ask him tomorrow about books if you like. And Math can be learned on ones own (since reason exists independent of humanity,) so just because you didn't do well in HS doesn't mean you're hopeless now. Although another option you have is to do philosophy, which at least functions on the same logical structures as math; I don't know how much you know about it already though.

 

[PolMex23]

You do vote for the representative that upholds your ideals and views most.

This is so stupid

Ron Paul's money isn't loud enough.

-Kye

Since the dawn of time there has been the group that truly runs things an yet we cant change that.

You know what I mean. Change sometimes trys to occur than corrupt forms of government happen.

The right man cant get into power because the men hungry for power usually are corrupt. The weakness of man shows through society.

Truth is you ultimately have to conform an just abuse the loop holes. yet again, it is nice to dream about changing the world or leaving a mark in history

 

[PolMex23]

Ron Paul's money isn't loud enough.

Polmex:

I think man "conforms" simply due to wanting a harmonious existence. We're social creatures they say -- social creatures in a capitalist hierarchy that perpetuates inequalities in the structure. Being content is just easier.

-Kye

Yes an I hate that fact. xD, we should get a chat going. I can talk about "stuff" for hours, especially to people who are more intelligent an equipped with proper an eloquent vernacular(even though that means common speech I dont think i have to be correct just trying to make a point xD)

I have nothing but compliments to the smash community, because we have some brilliant minds playing this **** addicting game

 

[shalom]

This is so stupid



Since the dawn of time there has been the group that truly runs things an yet we cant change that.

You know what I mean. Change sometimes trys to occur than corrupt forms of government happen.

The right man cant get into power because the men hungry for power usually are corrupt. The weakness of man shows through society.

Truth is you ultimately have to conform an just abuse the loop holes. yet again, it is nice to dream about changing the world or leaving a mark in history

First of all you saying you could replace the world "laws" with anything and that statement holds true is stupid. Second, you speak as if no one has ever made a mark on history lol Maybe you find it stupid to dream about changing the world or leaving a mark in history, but Obama didn't and neither did any other person who has had a significant mark on history. A defeatist attitude is one of the biggest reasons that changes people wish to see happen are never accomplished, hopefully there are more people that have hope than don't. Rather than try to change things for the better people just complain about the way things are.

 

[PolMex23]

Why do you attack me sir? No need to do that I was just posting thoughts that arent well organized.

Get off your high horse an calm down, take things lightly.

If your offended by me calling your response, "stupid" than ask why. Rather than to start bashing an go defensive.

I said that was stupid because it is a generic thing to say. Yes its true but you missed the point. You missed all my simple points. Chill dude

Elected power is stupid because most of the population are swayed easily and are bias. No1 really gets elected, the right ones are put in to continue the game

 

[SynikaL]

Because if not then there either are absolutes or there aren't, and if their aren't then concept itself sets a contradiction.
And if so, then logic as a whole fails and what I'm typing can't really be understood by anyoen5atkelabt tjklaf2iv jtea4sg jiowt

Basically, we must assume there are absolutes and logic; otherwise humans cannot understand anything, and "GJKDA TJKJ JVIEW" becomes as valid an argument as this.

Are you trying to intellectually castrate me? How may times must I acquiesce?

Syn-
I don't know off the top of my head; but I do find it surprising you didn't do well in Math, as you're among the most logically sound people on smashboards;

Thanks. I get that a lot, but truth be told I'm awful at math. I'm much less scared of it now, because I see the parallels between mathematics and the world I know today.

I get my reasoning skills from simply thinking about things all day, everyday, with few distractions in my life to interrupt me.

That, and I like to think reading dictionaries helped, as it forged in me a proper respect for language.

I assume it was a teacher who ruined any chance you had with Math (as it is IMO for everyone who dislikes it.)

Bingo. Good ol' Florida education. Consumer Mathematics or GTFO.

However to do any quote unquote real physics requires a grasp of calculus, which is basically like Algebra 3 or 4.

That said, my father has his masters in physics and works at UF so I can ask him tomorrow about books if you like. And Math can be learned on ones own (since reason exists independent of humanity,) so just because you didn't do well in HS doesn't mean you're hopeless now. Although another option you have is to do philosophy, which at least functions on the same logical structures as math; I don't know how much you know about it already though.

I'd seriously be very grateful. Don't go out of way, just let me know if you ever get around to it.

-Kimo

 

[shalom]

Why do you attack me sir? No need to do that I was just posting thoughts that arent well organized.

Get off your high horse an calm down, take things lightly.

If your offended by me calling your response, "stupid" than ask why. Rather than to start bashing an go defensive.

I said that was stupid because it is a generic thing to say. Yes its true but you missed the point. You missed all my simple points. Chill dude

Elected power is stupid because most of the population are swayed easily and are bias. No1 really gets elected, the right ones are put in to continue the game

Lol no one is bashing you at all relax, now it is you who is truly defensive. It was a generic response because that is all that was required to respond to what you wrote, if you had written something that required more analysis I would gladly respond. I agree with you that it is nice to talk about intelligent things with people on smashboards. You've met me before we played at my place in gville.

 

[Scidadle]

This isnt a ****ing IQ war.

It's god **** smash boards chill the **** out.

 

[PolMex23]

Lol no one is bashing you at all relax, now it is you who is truly defensive. It was a generic response because that is all that was required to respond to what you wrote, if you had written something that required more analysis I would gladly respond. I agree with you that it is nice to talk about intelligent things with people on smashboards. You've met me before we played at my place in gville.

Seth?

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