59% Attendance - School No Longer Accepting My Parents' Sick Notes

[SwordmasterXXXI]

You guys have weird schools. There's a grade 11 in my tech class that literally came to school 6 times this entire school year (School started sept 2nd >_>) and he's still here. He was in my math class last school year and did the same thing. Now he's a grade 11 taking grade 9 math. lol......

 

[1048576]

Put simply, the way you see it is wrong. These students can't do whatever they want, because they don't know what they want. They are still immature adolescents or younger and they don't know what is in their best interests; that is why their parents make decisions for them until they are at least 18 years old. They shouldn't be allowed to want to be ignorant of the world around them.

Students need schooling that isn't career oriented for a hundred reasons. General education allows them to figure out what interests them. It gives them basic general knowledge so they don't walk around like uneducated heathens the rest of their life. It introduces them to the wonders of science and literature. It cultures them. It develops their thinking, their brain capacities, so that they can actually succeed in becoming whatever it is that they want to do... when they are finally ready to do that.

Of course young people know what they want. Babies know what they want. This guy is a competant human being who knows the ramifications of dropping out of school. Let him make his own decisions. If he doesn't hurt anybody, let him do what he wants. You can't judge what is in his best interests better than he and his family can. Why shouldn't they be allowed to be ignorant of the world around them? Because you say so?

If you already know what interests you, you don't need typical school. Just because you don't know the periodic table doesn't mean you can't act with class. That's ridiculous. I'm pretty sure you don't need a massive amount of critical thinking skills to do most jobs. Really, the division of labor is so developed that most jobs simply require you to memorize a series of algorithms. This includes carpentry, dentistry, and auto mechanic...ery.

I guess you're a social conservative. I'm a utilitarian, so I disagree with your kind.

 

[Prolific]

Majority of my schooling i've been away about 45%,
Still got my HSC, and good average marks to get into the NAVY,

Pro,

 

[Livvers]

104, really, don't you ever get tired of trolling? =\

 

[SuperBowser]

I don't see what being a social conservative has to do with wanting people to go to school...?

Clearly, most people don't know what they want to be as a child. Or else we'd all be astronauts, firemen and ballerinas. And maybe a bear.

 

[marthmaster59]

Give Me A D E A
Give Me A L W
Give Me A I T H
Give Me A I T

What's That Spell?
DEAL WITH IT!

Your friendships will be more beneficial to you if they come from a group that shares our career interests. School contains no filter for finding these people.

ever heard of "clubs"? those are filters

 

[Jam Stunna]

Babies know what they want.

I would just like to say that this is factually inaccurate. Babies actually lack the mechanism to control their desires, which is why they do so many contradictory things, like cry when you put them to bed even though they give all the signals that they're sleepy.

 

[marthmaster59]

"I didn't go to school"

"I went to school."

I GOT ANOTHER ONE

"This is your brain."

"This is your brain without school."

 

[Tom]

Of course young people know what they want. Babies know what they want.

Young people don't know what they want. They want this, and then they want that, and then they what something else. They don't know whats best for them. Babies don't know what they want.

This guy is a competant human being who knows the ramifications of dropping out of school. Let him make his own decisions. If he doesn't hurt anybody, let him do what he wants. You can't judge what is in his best interests better than he and his family can.

Who is "this guy?" Who is "he," and who is his made up "family?" Who are you talking about, with all those specifics? The OP already came in and agreed with us and said he is going to spend more time in school, iirc. You're just familiarizing your argument to get in edgewise. But you're already wrong.

More like school has no benefit if you're studying up to fix cars or build furniture and you want to be ignorant and generally uneducated. I don't care what you want to do with your life, you should still know general history, understand language and math, and be able to follow sciences. Please.

Why shouldn't they be allowed to be ignorant of the world around them? Because you say so?

People should be educated about the world around them for the betterment of THEIR OWN LIVES. Taking basic mathematics and science classes allows them to better understand their universe. It helps them around the house, fixing broken pipes or clogged utilities so they don't have to spend so much money calling a specialist. It helps them understand what makes everything that they use tick, so that if it breaks they can fix it. Math helps them balance their finances. English helps them communicate with other people. You could possibly learn these things without school, but you will learn them in school.

Stop being so stubbornly worthless. In case you missed other poster's logical responses:

My school had both Automotive and Woodworking/carpentry classes. People did them knowing that as soon as they left school they'd be able to get a job instead of leaving school, then having to learn how to do it.

You still need general education and then specialized education to be able to actually make a decent living in this world. Is that necessity enough, numbersman?

Life without knowledge sounds ridiculously boring and worthless. Having a positive attitude towards learning will really help keep your life in order.

 

[1048576]

Young people don't know what they want. They want this, and then they want that, and then they what something else. They don't know whats best for them. Babies don't know what they want.



Who is "this guy?" Who is "he," and who is his made up "family?" Who are you talking about, with all those specifics? The OP already came in and agreed with us and said he is going to spend more time in school, iirc. You're just familiarizing your argument to get in edgewise. But you're already wrong.





People should be educated about the world around them for the betterment of THEIR OWN LIVES. Taking basic mathematics and science classes allows them to better understand their universe. It helps them around the house, fixing broken pipes or clogged utilities so they don't have to spend so much money calling a specialist. It helps them understand what makes everything that they use tick, so that if it breaks they can fix it. Math helps them balance their finances. English helps them communicate with other people. You could possibly learn these things without school, but you will learn them in school.

Stop being so stubbornly worthless. In case you missed other poster's logical responses:



You still need general education and then specialized education to be able to actually make a decent living in this world. Is that necessity enough, numbersman?

The OP is in a better position to judge what's best for him than you are. You shouldn't impose anything on him if he's not hurting anybody. That's Fascism.

I've gone through high school and I don't know how to fix a broken pipe, so I think your largest paragraph is just a giant lie. Also, school contains a very hgh ratio of waste of time activities to useful activities, moreso than if you studied how to balance a checkbook or whatever yourself.

You're last paragraph is also untrue. My friend makes a decent living playing poker after dropping out of school. I agree that for the most part you need an education, but you don't need the typical public school that OP was alluding to. That's my point.

 

[Red Exodus]

In my country if you so much as skip 3 days you better have a doctor certificate or they're not letting you back in.

As much as I hate some of the courses I'm doing at my college, I attend most of the time because attendance is important, and if something goes wrong they're more likely to give the guy who had good attendance a second chance than the guy who never showed up, regardless of grades.

 

[Virgilijus]

Can you be perfectly happy not going to school? Yes.
Can you be proficient at your job without school? Maybe.
Can learning ever be detrimental to your career. No.

We are all ignorant at some point. The educational point of high school (to a large degree) is to show you there are a lot of things out there you have no idea of. Whether or not you learn and retain them at that exact moment is up to you. But if you were to group the "uneducated masses" of the United States together, I would guarantee you that most had little to no schooling. To help yourself be ignorant is an incredibly foolhardy thing.

And school is also as social as it is educational. Sometimes even more so. When I was in high school, you know who the most timid and socially awkward people were? The ones that were never there to make any friends. I remember there was a girl named Kelly Beachem who missed (literally) half the school with sick notes. You know why she skipped all the time? Because she hated school. Why did she hate school? She didn't have any friends there. Why did she not have friends? Because she never went to class. And the circle repeats.

You can think high school is pointless (even for a tradesman) but that is entirely your misjudgment. Go ahead and skip all you want (most classes in college let you do that anyways), but suck it up, go to class, pass, and socialize while your in high school: there's no better time for it.

 

[1048576]

The wrong kind of learning can be detrimental because you could be spending your time doing something more productive. I could spend my time learning history/geography, or I could spend my time mucking around with Java's random number generator for fun and noticing that it often calculates the result faster than it's random number generator can replace its seed (it uses the clock). Which one do you think will make me the better engineer?

Learning history and geography and literature and pretty much every social science were giant wastes of my time in high school. I know what I want from my life and learning when Columbus sailed the ocean blue is not relevant to my interests.

 

[Virgilijus]

The wrong kind of learning can be detrimental because you could be spending your time doing something more productive.

Well then, why aren't you doing something more productive than surfing a forum on Christmas day? I'm sure you could be reading a book on non-Euclidean geometry or expanding your vocabulary. Oh well, you're not being productive, I guess: you should probably not come here anymore as it is detrimental to your learning by making you do something else in it's place. Hopefully you realize that that argument holds no weight here.

As a graduating engineer myself, I can assure you learning from a professor with an intrinsic and deep understanding of engineering is much better than fumbling around. There are many things you cannot understand until the right mind that all ready understands them explains it. Sure, you can look it up in a book, but a book can't have civil discourse with you. I think your problem is, you aren't taking the classes you want and then make the erroneous assumption that all classes are essentially flotsam and jetsam.

If ignorance were cornflakes, you'd be General Mills.

 

[JesiahTEG]

School is a path open to everyone. Playing Poker is another path. Becoming a professional gamer is another path. Becoming a homeless person is another path. You can do anything in life. Just do what you want.

 

[Virgilijus]

The choice is his. But it is easily debatable what, in principle, is a better path.

 

[Rici]

Listen to Virgilijus, he is the god**** Batman!

 

[ComboTurtle]

going to school seemed to suck at the time, but looking back now it actually wasnt too bad... sorta fun

 

[eevans]

school is good its the easiest way to get a social life and stuff and its fun.

 

[Panda10119]

Yeah but what you gotta remember this is your education may seem boring now, and i know that school sucks, i have to go to it 5 days a week! But nearly everybody does this is your future. And yes i'm not the goody two shoes you would think, i'm in afterschool detentions nearly all the time. But what you gotta remember is. ''If i'm going to do this then i've got to do it propperly.'' If you smack school in the face now, it will smack you back in the future when you're trying to get a job

 

[Spoonbob]

There was one kid in my AP chem class who was like 30 mins late every day and literally didn't do anything while in class. He ended up with a 3% in that class. His parents kicked him out of the house and now he makes a living playing poker.

Making a living playing poker is totally not bad at all. Though I'm sure that's boring.

And...school is not a waste of time. Besides the entire social aspect of school that you're missing out on, you're totally cutting yourself off of most vocational paths. I mean, sure, you could work in McDonald's, or be an Auto Mechanic or something, but there are so many other things that you probably COULD do and would WANT to do, but can't, because you're refusing to go to school.

If you had an actual plan, maybe this'd seem less stupid.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Well then, why aren't you doing something more productive than surfing a forum on Christmas day? I'm sure you could be reading a book on non-Euclidean geometry or expanding your vocabulary. Oh well, you're not being productive, I guess: you should probably not come here anymore as it is detrimental to your learning by making you do something else in it's place. Hopefully you realize that that argument holds no weight here.

Truth son, saying anything is detrimental really holds no weight at all, I fully agree.

I can't believe I'm going to start out college on the 6th, i'm nervous but excited at the same time and you know what, I definetly won't be skipping any classes there and why would anybody in their right mind do so?

 

[Spoonbob]

Truth son, saying anything is detrimental really holds no weight at all, I fully agree.

I can't believe I'm going to start out college on the 6th, i'm nervous but excited at the same time and you know what, I definetly won't be skipping any classes there and why would anybody in their right mind do so?

It's lazy/tiredness a whole lot of the time. Or it's just like, bad hangovers or something.

 

[Shadic]

Aren't I a lucky kid, in Germany you get to do 13 years of school.

Same thing in America.

sorry your an idiot for saying that

Irony. Learn how to properly use English.