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1 Character ha ha ha, 2 characters ha ha ha, 3 characters ha ha ha... 10 characters ha ha ha. Hey, who are the other 4?
Sees title, skips video. True combos don't need to worry about Mewtwo's airdodge drift, bat within and frame 1 escape moves.
It’s all good.
WaDi almost hit top 10 in the world and he is just now learning how to perfect pivot.
Agreed, that man is easily the best Mewtwo offensively.
The video actually brings up Bayo's Bat Within when they talk about how Link's uair frame traps air dodges on it's own so long as Link follows the drift...with the exception of Bat Within. I'm also not sure if the frame 1 options would be an issue in a perfect scenario. Pretty sure air dodges are the earliest option you get out of hitstun so if you use a low lag move after air dodge becomes available but before the other options, you can frame trap them regardless of those frame 1 options. And even then there's only
Rest Rising Uppercut Dolphin Slash Rush Coil (just Rush, not the intangibility) Pac-Jump Focus Attack and True Shoryuken double jump. There may be some more that I've missed but in a perfect scenario, these either shouldn't matter or only applies to a few characters and they have their own drawbacks. Course, you won't be able to perfectly time a frame trap all the time and so could get hit by things like a frame 3 nair.
At what point did he dethrone Abadango?
abadango is more of a bayo main with a mewtwo secondary at this point, Wadi is currently the solo Mewtwo with the best results
That doesn't really answer my question.
adding onto this, there are some combos that will steal your jump but lock you out of airdodge.
is fthrow > fair > bf around 10-20% or with slight rage.
i really dont know how to make this simpler to understand but ill try
First of all, for what it's worth, WaDi is higher than Abadango on the latest PGR. Secondly, with Abadango playing more Bayonetta now, it's hard to justify calling him the best Mewtwo.
: Is Nairo the best Bowser? Based on set wins, probably, but since he mostly uses Zero Suit Samus, his placings mostly come from her.: Is Tweek the best Bowser Jr.? He has the highest placings of any Bowser Jr. player to date, but he no longer plays the character, no longer has interest in playing the character, and his more recent attempts to use the character have not ended well (see: vs. Locus at ZeRo Saga, Smash 4 Boot Camp Iron Man).: Is ZeRo the best Captain Falcon? He thought he was. Before Fatality's showings at Civil War and Momocon, it was hard to disagree. Fatality at Momocon was the first player to take a game, a single game, against ZeRo in the Captain Falcon ditto. While now it's clear, that Fatality's the best, at one point ZeRo might have been.: Is Nairo the best Dr. Mario? His set win on ESAM is not much, but it's better than any other Dr. Mario before or since.: Is AC the best Falco? His Falco has had some impressive showings, but since he relies so much on his Meta Knight, it's hard to say for sure.: Is WaDi the best ROB?: Is Nairo the best Robin?: Is komorikiri the best Roy?: Is ESAM the best Samus?: Is Nairo the best Zelda?: Is Abadango the best of these characters? If so, how do you justify saying that when AC, Sinji and Glutonny have more recent results? If not, how do you justify saying that when Abadango has had the most overall success of any player of those characters?
I asked "when", not "how" or "why". That being said, it's already been answered.First of all, for what it's worth, WaDi is higher than Abadango on the latest PGR. Secondly, with Abadango playing more Bayonetta now, it's hard to justify calling him the best Mewtwo.
This has happened before, where the arguable best player of a character does not main that character and thus it is debatable whether or not they are the best:
I might have missed some, but it's obvious that some characters are hard to say for sure who's the best. In any case, this is closer by far than most other characters on that list (and some not on it, like Donkey Kong).
The fact that Nairo's upset over ESAM with Dr. Mario is the character's highest peak is kinda sad for the character.First of all, for what it's worth, WaDi is higher than Abadango on the latest PGR. Secondly, with Abadango playing more Bayonetta now, it's hard to justify calling him the best Mewtwo.
This has happened before, where the arguable best player of a character does not main that character and thus it is debatable whether or not they are the best:
I might have missed some, but it's obvious that some characters are hard to say for sure who's the best. In any case, this is closer by far than most other characters on that list (and some not on it, like Donkey Kong).
15 in total!
If you know a lucas main attending or are one yourself, including secondaries, feel free to drop a comment and I will update the list.
What exactly do you mean with the statement in bold?
stop posting.
Gee, how constructive.
That Skittles may be a Fox/CF main from Southwest Florida, who is also PR’d at #5 for the region. Dunno about Jumbo’s seeding though, he’s pretty good.
LordMix is probably the best Bowser. Zero, when doing his best player for each character video, stated that Nairo agreed with him that LordMix was the best solo Bowser.
I love the hypocrisy in that statement.
Upsets happen all the time these days, like Sinji beating Dabuz or a Link player ( I apologize for forgetting the name ) beating Earth at one point.
It's still more constructive than anything you post
. However if you want something that is a bit more constructive, the point is the content is either shallow, information that you could easily find yourself and ultimately not beneficial for discussion. Either you can improve the quality of your posting and be less hostile or you should stop posting...because honestly this thread might be too much for your level of critical thinking.
Actually, Ken is even more underrated. He got 8th on the Pgr with less traveling than any other top 10 player. He got 5th at Evo 2017, the same position as Nairo. KEN is a hidden monster still. Easily the best Sonic.
I'm just here for the heck of it.
The bold was an accident. oops
Wasn't this before Nairo did crazy stuff with Bowser?
KEN is established as the best Sonic even before his performance at EVO 2017. His performance in between (especially his MKLeo Saga run) solidified himself as a top 10 player and the current best player in Japan.
It looks like a golden opportunity for Lucas due to the sheer number entering, but the seeding says otherwise. R.I.P.
At this point, anything can happen at Frostbite. I wonder if Leo and Nairo notices that Frostbite is A-tier rather than Tokaigi's B-tier lol.
I mention that because Jebb is a full-on Bayo main. I doubt we'd see his Lucas at all, but I'll have to ask him if there are any MUs he prefers Lucas for. So far, I haven't seen any.
It's also my bad..I keep forgetting there's an ignore button aa well
To be honest, I think the most likely to win would be either Salem or Dabuz, but it's hard to say for sure.
I still believe that KEN is still underrated. I personally believe he's a top five player. And The video with Zero was made during Nairo's Bowser runs. I think its a case of Zero and Zinoto or Ally and Zenyou here. Lordmix knows the character better, and when I compare his Bowser to Nairo's it seems like a more optimal Bowser, but Nairo has better wins with his Bow-wow.
MKLeo is going to go Meta Knight if Nairo goes Bowser. At least based off of Genesis 5.
Frostbite is kind of an open possibility for who could take it. Honestly, beside Dabuz and Salem, I could see some dark horse going in hard as well. Mr. R could finally clutch it. One of the other top Bayos could, like Lima or Mistake.
I excluded KEN because he has started to get recognition, and pretty much every top player has thought he was a top 10 player since last year. He’s a monster.
He still is. ESAM thinks otherwise, but LordMix still has better cumulative results than the other solo Bowsers, even if he is semi-active currently.
It would be frightening to see Bowser in the dog-lady's house from Link's Awakening. XD
Correction to Leo's Marth matchup chart: Bowser is one of MKLeo's worst matchup. If he does fight Nairo or one of the Japanese DK mains, we will see if he indeed adjusted to the grapplers given his fight against Konga in Genesis 5.
