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I can't remember the last time we saw kameme in the latter half of the year. Civil War maybe?
I'd actually like to inquire about how this came to be and what reasons there may be for it.
and especially moving up in the world. in the list? The previous three tier lists had a position for each of their 1111 setups, so one would think this would also be case for this one.
Mega Man hasn't done much significant recently to my knowledge. Kameme has been going Shiek a lot more and I don't know what Scatt has been doing this whole time. I think it makes sense that he would drop considering his two best mains either don't compete or haven't placed well in the last few months. Not saying he is over ranked but results do play a part in making the list.
I would say mid.
Lack of overall data. We would like to include them (heck, I do actually play Brawler when given the opportunity), but their status puts them into a complete limbo and considering their legal status varying so heavily, we don't require them. Unfortunately this time there just wasn't enough data to really even consider it, which is a shame.Just out of curiosity: where are
Here you go.Just out of curiosity: where are
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I'll just quote myself on that one, because i agree that people may be a bit too afraid of changing the top tiers:
I do not believe Wii Fit should be bottom five. While she is not a great character by any means, I feel she has better tools than andand also has more results than both of them with John Numbers. and shouldn’t be in the same tier as ,,,etc. Ryu and Marth both have more lows theory/gameplay wise than most/all of the tier and (I believe anyway) have less results according to Das Koopas chart. However, I do like Lucina being close but not right next to Marth as I definitely feel Lucina is not better than Corrin (but still close), , and seem a bit underrated. Personally feel Olimar should be in the tier above, Peach above Falcon, and Greninja higher in his tier.feel he might be like a spot or two too high but not really sure.should be above and maybe . I feel should be above but I think that’s just me underselling
Why do you say that?-
I've accepted it.
Actually now that I lool my into it, I feel Doc has better tools than Wik Fit. But Bowser Jr I feel is lackluster and I have thought for a bit he was bottom 5. However my opinions might be a bit biased since I watch a lot of John Numbers and haven’t seen a lot of top Bowser Jr. since Tweek, Jade, and currently Taternator. Even then I feel results wise, which of course isn’t the main/only way to rank a character, Wii Fit definitely edged out over Bowser Jr.
Well Wii Fit does have a better time on the ledge.
would be second, he has the second highest score in @Das Koopa 's character score sheet. rose at the top of D tier, people seem to underestimate him. And T does really well with him.is still a high tier, he did really well in @Das Koopa 's character score sheet.is still first.is still at the top of high tier, she deserves that spot. We all thought she was too high, but not anymore.is not bottom five anymore! Yes! He has Mario potential you know.and where they belong, higher than Fox and Sonic.andare still in top tier. I think a lot of people ( including me ) are beginning to think Marth and Ryu are not top tier anymore. They should be in high tier, even other high tiers got better results than them and they are not just used as much. Plus MKLeo uses Cloud more often. Marth and Ryu did not do very well in @Das Koopa 's character scores.I am just saying Doctor Mario has dangerous aspects that are similar to Mario ( Cape and Up tilt combos into up airs ). Doctor Mario may be slow, but he can be dangerous if he is treated like Mario by using a lot of aerials. Though he is defiently not as dangerous as Mario.
When he actually proves it and doesn't get carried off theory. Not a jab at Lucas at all but Lucas doesn't have Ness' results and they both suffer from a lack of consistent showings at tournaments from their mains. People keep saying this but I frankly don't see it.
Can you explain this part? I don’t really see how Doc has “Mario potential.” Yes he good tools such as up b out of shield and I BELIEVE a better up smash than the other two, but he was lower mobility and other aspects keeping him far away from where mario is.-
I would say that's jumping the gun, but considering how little he shows up it's perfectly understandable to think so.
Roy was once 6th worst and then people started actually using him and showing what he could do and now he's in mid tier. If players do the same with Doc, I'll gladly take him out of that list but until then, he has not been shown to have tools that offset his weaknesses.
I agree with you in that they aren't equal to the characters they're next to, but I think they're a bit stronger than the characters that follow them- IMO you could easily make a new tier and place all three there.
placing hurts my soul
Mario has little to grow from considering that his meta is centralized on one thing (grab) which has kept him in top tier since the early days of Wii u, but now it's just not enough anymore with characters that have so much more diverse and flexible tools to develop more tech while
is still in the stone age of grab and convert. At this point I'm internally debating how much more better (if at all) is he than who has a much more solid ground game devastating conversations off of grab with one of the fastest CQC in the game and having a forward poke in the air makes it so much better than what Mario has.
is still in low-tier and as a main, that upsets. On the bright side, it does look like is now mid-tier. Has he always been mid-tier? Regardless, i do feel that mid-tier is where he belongs. He's not good enough to be high-tier but definitely better enough to not be low-tier. and shouldn't be that far apart tbh and being above the PK Kids feels weird..
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