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I'm saying Mewtwo still has good OOS options. I feel like the character that takes the most damage to his game from traction is Luigi. Everyone above that isn't at as much of a loss. Mario, for example, has bad traction as well. But his airspeed and usmash range give him good options.
In what world is Fatality inconsistent? Dude hasn't placed below 17th at anything since EVO 2015 and his only somewhat bad placements were at Come to Papa 2 where he got 13th and Clutch City Clash where he lost to Captain Zack and Scatt
I did this thing a month ago
That's interesting and kinda cool but where's the evidence and results? Zard doesn't have a huge playerbase so it's hard to tell if zard is in the proper tierwise...
It's not actually interesting though.
To be fair, usually when people voice these opinions it's based on traceable events. Either these are characters they recently struggled against, or they feel most comfortable with those characters. Characters that come almost out of left field like this show that top players are struggling against characters that are usually considered to be free.It's not actually interesting though.
How many times have we heard about top players voicing random opinions that aren't backed up at all, generally make little to no sense and consistently turn out to be just plain wrong at some later point? Remember when Pikachu was top 4 according to ESAM? Remember when Zero declared Rosalina the game's best character? Or when Leo claimed Marth is top 5? Or dyr claimed Corrin is top 4?
These opinions are not 'interesting', as you call it - they're just plain bull****. Let's not pretend they are anything else.
is in the top 3 if not the best in the game now. Hmmm
The real question is who doesn't think that Bayo is top 3 at this point.So now that's now Leo , Mr.R , Dabuz and Salem that have offically said that they think
Am I missing anyone else ? Lol
is certianly not on the level "broken" than say pre-patched and and both were not ever considered for banning is pretty suspectable to Bayo ladder combo Jank kills due to his size and weight. Especially if Bayo has rage
But Bayonetta is also pretty susceptible to being camped out by Mewtwo and you cant be forgetting the insane potential 0 - deaths he can pull off from just a dtiltPost-patched
Reults show that Diddy is likely a bad MU for Bayo
I am not so sure about Sheik since I don't know if there is actually been a lot of high level matches between them post-patched
with the first 2 being generally agreed upon and the latter of the 3 being formerly considered for top 3 or even number 1. I would list too since if optimized, he could infinite all but 3 members of the cast but one of those 3 just so happens to be his worst mu and an incredibly viable character, so not likely. Doubt there's very many people who believe Fox, Mario, Rosa, ZSS, Cloud or anyone else is good enough to be top 3. Maaaybe Cloud since he's currently number 2 but then Pika and Ryu were top 5 and went down pretty far without any patches affecting them directly.
I've pretty much made a decision to not take anything ESAM says seriously when it comes to his opinions on characters. Zelda being better than characters like Duck Hunt and Doc is just flat-out false.
no ordering within tiers according to ESAM
Pac-Man... in the same tier as Jiggs and Ganon.
no ordering within tiers according to ESAM
*Looks at bottom tier*
no ordering within tiers according to ESAM
My advice would be to ignore the numbers and focus on what they actually mean. In this instance, people think that Charizard is a bad character, but not the worst one.
Because apparently ESAM wants to continue his long streak of people calling him dumb for having wacky opinions.
That implies he puts significant thought into his own explanations.
Honestly by this point you can barely call upsets aganist Esam upsets at all. That's how inconsistant he is.ESAM's next big upset will be to Sinji, I suppose
But I feel like he's mostly biased to Pika's strengths here. I can see Pika abusing Pac Man's weaknesses really well.
Actually, same for Mewtwo and Corrin (if he still plays either). So Pac-Man's placement makes sense from that perspective. What can Pac-Man do if any of those characters steals his fruit and runs?
If Pac has the lead, not care and just wait. None of those 3 can projectile camp him profitably.ESAM's next big upset will be to Sinji, I suppose
But I feel like he's mostly biased to Pika's strengths here. I can see Pika abusing Pac Man's weaknesses really well.
Actually, same for Mewtwo and Corrin (if he still plays either). So Pac-Man's placement makes sense from that perspective. What can Pac-Man do if any of those characters steals his fruit and runs?
The problem is just how bad is charizard, extremely bad, a bit bad, or 'meh average but gets outshone by higher levels'?
Srsly people, instead of haunting ESAM, try to understand he's just biased because his character abuse it pretty badly.ESAM's next big upset will be to Sinji, I suppose
But I feel like he's mostly biased to Pika's strengths here. I can see Pika abusing Pac Man's weaknesses really well.
Actually, same for Mewtwo and Corrin (if he still plays either). So Pac-Man's placement makes sense from that perspective. What can Pac-Man do if any of those characters steals his fruit and runs?
