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You can talk smack about Ryu when you don't lose to me on wifi.
This is a point I feel a lot of people ignore.
(orvets) have a habit of tilting their shield up when blocking. I do it, VoiD does it, NAKAT does it, etc.
Pipp (
), Wolfei (), Emm2K(), Sniper Kirby(), Rython (), and Zantoma () are all on the Memphis PR
Not only that, but her few neutral tools are actually really good! Seriously. Most characters cannot dream to be able to punish run up DP.
For AL,
(unranked) (4th on AL PR) (9th on AL PR) (unranked)Not to mention she's one of the few characters with a frame 4 jumpsquat.
come to mind.
I said something very similar not too long after the Meta Knight nerf. On paper, the changes to up air simply remove his ability to secure KO's through ladder combos--or more precisely, reduce the combo's reliability to only a portion of the cast.
The "Bayonetta has a poor neutral" was an idea that gained form before her nerf, propagated by people who thought she wasn't worth banning*. It was often referred to as her flaw/holding her back**. Now that she's in a much better place, we don't have to pretend that she has a bad neutral***.
Do they? I'm not really aware of what other Robins' opinions are on the MU, and I have Bayo in a "idk" category in my current personal Robin MU chart in my head.I also don't understand when random mid/low tiers try to say they beat/go even with Bayonetta just because they outrange her/they're a zoner.
Robin's trapping/zoning ability is pretty decent at exploiting some holes in her grounded game. Dude's good af at intercepting ABK/ledge wakeup, you just have to know what's coming (generally speaking, don't stand close to the ledge when she's holding it). Having several kill confirms against her is also a really nice boon.
Uh... thanks.
The bugs are the thing that jumps the most out at you but in my opinion the bigger issue is that it's a very susceptible stage to timeouts. Neither of them are really gamebreaking in my eyes but again people are really conservative w/ stages in Smash 4 and those two things are bigger things to point to than Delfino/Halberd which at least can claim to have been legal in Brawl.
Ive definitely stepped up a lot recently, since I've gotten a plethora of local training partners instead of wifi'ing tons. Stop ducking my challenges and you'll see. <3
When she charges smashes during witch time, she charges half as fast with the same max amount of time charged. AKA, she's charging from uncharged --> half charged.
Any particular reason for such a habit and why specifically those with characters with good walks have it? I'd imagine it'd be to block aerials more effectively but when it comes to grounded opponents, ftilts and dtilts are more likely to shield poke than utilts. Your mentioning of Brawl MK has me assuming that the habit was present in Brawl too which makes a bit more sense since the likes of MK himself and sh double fair Marth were in that game.Random knowledge drop:
Almost all users of characters with really strong walks like
If you pressure our shield a bit and reduce it by about 5-10 hp, our feet are almost always vulnerable to dtilts and PP dsmashes. Go a bit further and you can poke our feet with fsmashes that angle down. This gives you combos and kills you normally would not have received had this habit not been present.
MU chart. is an even matchup, lul. This seems like a pretty honest chart.
In Smash 4 it's because it's easier for most to initiate and continue their walks while tilting slightly upwards. This way you don't ever initiate an accidental dash and can turn around on a dime if necessary.
This is pretty solid. I am so glad to see a top Falcon player say that
Fatality's
Wonder what happened for him to say
is at least even.:) potential there, but I play this MU all the time (against the best Falcon in our area, no less), so I'm probably a little biased, but hey, this is a step in the right direction. Falcon does not beat Marth, and that notion needs to go out the window now.
I hate that Marthcina players keep starting discussions as if the opponent's already offstage and has lost neutral.
It's the first example that tends to come to my mind, basically. But there are probably more I can think of... Just not right now, I have other things to do and other people can probably think of better ones.
Well, Falcon has a pretty bad Disadvantage state - Marcina to some extent too. I guess this is why it feels that both of them destroy each other as soon as they start winning anything.
yeah true. Both can just destroy each other. Its a fun matchup imo
Why not look at it from the other perspective? What about, how much harder is it than normal to get in on them? How is Falcon going to challenge their Jab 1? How is Falcon going to deal with being the perfect weight and fall speed for their combo game?
Side Tilt seems to work fine for me as well. Stops frontal approaches and shorthop, has good range, really good damage (well, atleast with Lucina I don't worry about tipper so I always get some healthy damage) and I often can play around to get a DTilt or DB after it.
I'd say this is a good MU chart spread. Kinda surprised to see
Fatality's
Wonder what happened for him to say
goes even, since it's one of his most volatile MUs IMO. Maybe I just suck at the MU? Then again, Fatality has a lot of experience against ScAtt, so I guess that contributes a lot.
It annoys me to no end when people assume those three characters are much worse than they actually are just because they played some schmuck on FG or a local that doens't even use them properly.
yeah there are some people that just don't know for whatever reason. Either they're just learning, trolling, or just simply casual players. Or they're too stubborn to change their play for the better. Bad habits die hard.
I know that this doesn't apply to everyone, but if I wanted to learn a character, I'd look up videos on that character to get the basics. I'd also ask players of that character about when to use certain strategies and who the character wins or loses to. I know it doesn't matter what I do until I actually use the character, but I would like to think getting some general information before using the character is a lot better than just throwing stuff at the wall and see what sticks. Then again, you might have to do that anyway at some point.
Lets not forget everyone saying the same for Cloud for almost every MU too lol.
