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Now there's a lot of new vids of youtubers talking about 2B, the wait is killing me.
 
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I was thinking if the next fighter was 2b, they would announce it on Nier's birthday. but due to the corona virus, the March Nier anniversary concert was postponed, and so was the fighter reveal.
This might mean something. I can't see why Sakurai would need to postpone the reveal if it was going to be in a nintendo direct. The one reason might be that Sakurai has not recorded a fighter reveal. But he usually pre-records his fighter reveals as he stated in byleth's reveal. So I don't really see a reason for the next fighter to be postponed other than if it was supposed to be shown to a live audience.

Obviously this is just a thought, not evidence.
 
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SNEKeater

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Normanz said:
I was thinking if the next fighter was 2b, they would announce it on Nier's birthday. but due to the corona virus, the March Nier anniversary concert was postponed, and so was the fighter reveal.
This might mean something. I can't see why Sakurai would need to postpone the reveal if it was going to be in a nintendo direct. The one reason might be that Sakurai has not recorded a fighter reveal. But he usually pre-records his fighter reveals as he stated in byleth's reveal. So I don't really see a reason for the next fighter to be postponed other than if it was supposed to be shown to a live audience.

Obviously this is just a thought, not evidence.
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Well, it's a interesting theory.
But I don't see Nintendo announcing a Smash DLC in a Nier concert if that's what you're suggesting. The Smash community in general wouldn't be paying attention to that, and Nintendo would rather have that announcement in a Direct, also because that would make a lot more buzz than announcing a character in a live concert.
Granted, maybe the Direct and the anniversary were scheduled for the same day, but that's very unlikely even if 2B is the next character.
 
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NieR Replicant and NieR Automata will have a collaboration with SINoALICE to be included when it is released for Global/Western in July.
https://mobile.twitter.com/sinoaliceglobal/status/1241942764515819520?s=09
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https://twinfinite.net/2020/03/sinoalice-yoko-taro-western-release/
https://i.imgur.com/zmyknxr.jpg
It's a game that has some connection to the "YOKO TARO Verse"
such as
and an excellent soundtrack.


https://drakengard.fandom.com/wiki/Taro_Yoko/Taroverse

http://firesanctuary.com/blog/complete-yokoverse-guide/

https://firesanctuary.com/the-yokoverse-encyclopedia/

 
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So, with the returning relevance of NieR as a whole, and the return of (Brother) Nier...

How would you all feel if it was Nier himself who got into Smash instead of 2B?
It be a bit strange, since I've been parading for 2B all this time, but I'll be happy to get anything NieR/Drakengard in Smash.
 
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NineS said:
So, with the returning relevance of NieR as a whole, and the return of (Brother) Nier...

How would you all feel if it was Nier himself who got into Smash instead of 2B?
It be a bit strange, since I've been parading for 2B all this time, but I'll be happy to get anything NieR/Drakengard in Smash.
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I'd be totally cool with it. I think I'd prefer 2B, since Automata is my favorite game ever, but Replicant is also truly excellent and I really love Brother Nier. Plus it means we would be more likely to get a Kainé remix.

What a world we live in! I never thought I'd see the day we'd get a Replicant remaster that's also confirmed for the West. This is gonna be amazing.
 
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Advertisement/Teaser for the NieR Mobile game coming soon.

Wouldn't miss it for the world. Glad to see this franchise is becoming increasingly relevant.

Also, know there will supposedly be Nier news on April 22nd. I do not know if it will be of NieR, NieR Re, or NieR Re[in], but it should hopefully be something good.

Still hoping we get more smash news when the time comes... Good news, that is.
 
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What the hell? Nier isn't the name of the game? *confused screaming*

If that happens i would be sad because i want 2B in.
 
SNEKeater

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Didn't played anything beyond Automata, but in Automata there's no one named Nier. I don't think it's likely that in case of having a Nier rep we will get Nier himself or anyone else. I'm expecting a similar case to Joker, where the most popular and recent character would be the chosen.

The bad thing is that if 2B gets in I'm not expecting a lot of representation for the rest of the series, at best some music tracks or something like that, just like what happened with Joker, but he at least came with some Mii Costumes from P3 and 4.
 
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This render is very cool. What do you think?
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This render is very cool. What do you think?
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Fantastic. Aside from the fact it looks really well done, especially since I believe this was mostly done in programs such as Photoshop rather than being an actual 3D model, it seems to me like it shows that 2B can be toned down to be less fanservicey one way or another and still fit in just fine.
 
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Fantastic little fan render!! I hope she makes it and it shows that it's easy to tone her down just fine.
 
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NineS said:
Fantastic. Aside from the fact it looks really well done, especially since I believe this was mostly done in programs such as Photoshop rather than being an actual 3D model, it seems to me like it shows that 2B can be toned down to be less fanservicey one way or another and still fit in just fine.
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Well, you have this:

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In case anyone missed it, Venus of the Desert Bloom Venus of the Desert Bloom posted the second part of his character analysis for 2B, so check it out! https://smashboards.com/threads/“2b-activates-for-battle”-nier-automata-smash-analysis-part-2.504949/

Also, I played a bit of Nier Automata - I had played through the tutorial previously, and this time, I made it through the desert and the amusement park, and I just got to the village in the forest. While I'm sure this isn't much of the game (I don't know much about it, though I know that it has five "real" endings along with twenty-one joke ones that cover the rest of the alphabet), it (plus Venus's analysis posts) is enough to make me want to see 2B in Smash, so count me in as a supporter.

EDIT: after completing a few sidequests, I fought Eve and unlocked the game's fast travel system, which will make it much easier to complete other sidequests.

EDIT 2: I've beaten ending A! I'll start the next story tomorrow. The ending came quicker than I expected, so I didn't complete some sidequests and I didn't have a ton of healing items by the end. The ending was happier than I expected, and the ending credits reminded me of Metal Gear Solid.
 
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It's been well over 24 hours since I last posted here, so I wanted to mention that I've reached Ending B and started playing as A2.

On a related note, I have a question: would A2 work as an Echo fighter for 2B, or an Alph-style alternate costume? I haven't played much of A2 so far, but unlike 9S (who hacks his opponents in exchange for not having a heavy attack), A2 seems to play pretty similarly to 2B so far - I haven't reached the Goliath in the desert yet, but so far, the only differences that I've seen are that her dash looks more sinister and she has a dedicated taunt button.

I'm not sure if she has all of the same abilities as 2B, or at least enough that she could be an Echo fighter with a different final smash, and I figured it might generate discussion.
 
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Megadoomer said:
It's been well over 24 hours since I last posted here, so I wanted to mention that I've reached Ending B and started playing as A2.

On a related note, I have a question: would A2 work as an Echo fighter for 2B, or an Alph-style alternate costume? I haven't played much of A2 so far, but unlike 9S (who hacks his opponents in exchange for not having a heavy attack), A2 seems to play pretty similarly to 2B so far - I haven't reached the Goliath in the desert yet, but so far, the only differences that I've seen are that her dash looks more sinister and she has a dedicated taunt button.

I'm not sure if she has all of the same abilities as 2B, or at least enough that she could be an Echo fighter with a different final smash, and I figured it might generate discussion.
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I played Nier back in 2017 so my memory isn't really good, and with that in mind I'd say A2 is one of those characters that could work as an echo fighter by losing a bit of identity. Same case, in my opinion, with characters such as Dark Samus or Dixie Kong. At the same time I think that A2 could be her own character because she had enough unique abilities. Also, her attacks animations are different from 2B's if I'm not mistaken.
 
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I got endings C, D, and E in very quick succession, and I've officially (as far as I'm concerned) beaten Nier Automata! My hand hurts, but once I connected to the network, it was a really uplifting moment. (though I chose not to delete my save data, since I was close to getting some achievements and I didn't want to lose all of my progress)

I just barely got the achievement for completing 80% of the unit data by beating the final boss, which was good. I tried fighting the bonus boss in the underground area before I entered the end-game, but that went... poorly. (I died in two hits)

At the moment, I'm missing thirteen achievements. Five are listed in Steam's menu:
  • complete 80% of all quests (I was around 50 or 60%, though I do need to go back to older chapters to get weapons that can only be unlocked by completing quests)
  • find 80% of archives
  • obtain all Pod programs (I think I was at about 60% for that, and I believe that some are rewards for completing quests)
  • upgrade all weapons to the highest level
  • upgrade all Pods to the highest level (that one might be a pain, given how rare some of the upgrade materials seem to be)
and there are eight secret ones:

All in all, I'd say that I did pretty well. Not sure how this game stacks up to Bayonetta 2, DMC3, or DMC5, but I think it beats out Metal Gear Rising, and it's definitely one of my favourite action games.
 
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Megadoomer said:
I got endings C, D, and E in very quick succession, and I've officially (as far as I'm concerned) beaten Nier Automata! My hand hurts, but once I connected to the network, it was a really uplifting moment. (though I chose not to delete my save data, since I was close to getting some achievements and I didn't want to lose all of my progress)

I just barely got the achievement for completing 80% of the unit data by beating the final boss, which was good. I tried fighting the bonus boss in the underground area before I entered the end-game, but that went... poorly. (I died in two hits)

At the moment, I'm missing thirteen achievements. Five are listed in Steam's menu:
  • complete 80% of all quests (I was around 50 or 60%, though I do need to go back to older chapters to get weapons that can only be unlocked by completing quests)
  • find 80% of archives
  • obtain all Pod programs (I think I was at about 60% for that, and I believe that some are rewards for completing quests)
  • upgrade all weapons to the highest level
  • upgrade all Pods to the highest level (that one might be a pain, given how rare some of the upgrade materials seem to be)
and there are eight secret ones:

All in all, I'd say that I did pretty well. Not sure how this game stacks up to Bayonetta 2, DMC3, or DMC5, but I think it beats out Metal Gear Rising, and it's definitely one of my favourite action games.
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Happy to see that you have enjoyed the game!
Personally, I wouldn't define Nier Automata as an action game, or not an action game in the vein of Bayonetta, Devil May Cry or Metal Gear Rising. I see Nier Automata more like an action RPG game. My reasoning for this is because the game has a semi-open world, a lot of secondary missions, strong RPG elements, no ranking/puntuation system, etc. which isn't really common in DMC, Bayonetta and more.

Personally I think Nier is closer to Astral Chain than Bayonetta. Not like that's a bad thing, of course.
 
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I've written out a 2B moveset. Much like I did with my Dante moveset, I stuck to using two weapons (and occasionally throwing in attacks from her Bare Fists if needed), since I figure that if Bayonetta's any indication, they'd probably keep her moveset relatively straightforward.

 
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Michael the Spikester said:
https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♥♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-3072#post-24029196

If true that's it then.
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Considering that the source in question only got a single Mii costume correct so far, I don't see any reason to take the source seriously. (and going by the date on the post, this was nine months after Cuphead came to Switch, and three months after Sans was added to Smash, so it could just be a coincidence) At the very least, 1/9 isn't exactly a pattern.
 
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Fatman’s “source” is a fraud. His name is Supirorguy, ROFLMAO! Fatman imo should kind of stop pretending to be a leaker, and people should stop believing him. He’s already hated by SG, same goes for his “source” Supirorguy (the Mii costume leaker).

Also, y’all need to stop giving him attention. He’s very unreliable.
 
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Matadormon said:
Fatman’s “source” is a fraud. His name is Supirorguy, ROFLMAO! Fatman imo should kind of stop pretending to be a leaker, and people should stop believing him. He’s already hated by SG, same goes for his “source” Supirorguy (the Mii costume leaker).

Also, y’all need to stop giving him attention. He’s very unreliable.
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I merged the posts, but for future reference, if you want to add more detail to your post, just edit it in; double posting is considered spam. (also, SupirorGuy and the Mii costume leaker are two separate people; I understand that people get heated about this topic, but it's best to not spread inaccurate information)
 
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