2.B.A. MASTER: The New PT Video Thread

CoonTail · Mar 7, 2010

Thanks alot kith man....honestly I know watergun camping is the answer, your right though I get very impatient with squirtle just knowing the arsenal and speed I have. I have to listen to mata too because he's right I need to air dodge and jump more to get around nades. The biggest prob was these are sets from 3:45 am so I wasn't the most awake but no johns.

Also thanks for all the knowledge about snake on the edge kith man I always grab him next to the edge and think I can just grab release -> jab and smack him before he does anything but jump -> air dodge wins overall so an empty short hop to see what he does is a really good answer. I guess zard can do the same thing here to, but overall my zard has done pretty well against ryko I just have to watch out for d-throw tech **** and all the traps.

Overall Im working on Ivy but its been one of the hardest things I've encountered in my entire smash history, I know Ivy is good but god-**** man its such a task at playing Ivy correctly. Either way thanks Mata and Kith I think in a few more friendlies with ryko I can start winning the sets overall.

Kith · Mar 7, 2010

Just try to think about the patience thing more than anything. If you ask Mata, he'll probably tell you Charizard is better. I'd say Squirtle is :-P. It doesn't matter who you're more comfortable with, all that matters is you get that patience down. I've really felt like I've overcome this huge plateau I've been at for a while now, just because I started playing a lot more patiently.

CoonTail · Mar 7, 2010

Kith said:
Just try to think about the patience thing more than anything. If you ask Mata, he'll probably tell you Charizard is better. I'd say Squirtle is :-P. It doesn't matter who you're more comfortable with, all that matters is you get that patience down. I've really felt like I've overcome this huge plateau I've been at for a while now, just because I started playing a lot more patiently.

Yea kith man I deffinitly hear you I feel like I have deffinitly come of a plateau too of just my noobish tendencies. Im finally noting what I'm doing wrong and Im actually taking advice because I need it.

Im really really comfortable with squirtle just not with camping so I have to get better at that. My aggro and combos I have down it's just my defensive point of view that needs alot of work. I need to learn when to approach, when not to, seeing patterns and overall breaking a player down.

Im getting charizard down the most though and I feel like he's been my motivator. I make alot of good decisions with him. I actually took Lain's snake to last stock because of my grab release mind games. I read him so hard that he actually ended up making a comment to me about how well I read him.

Overall I think you and mata are both right though, Squirtle and Zard can really handle snake. Its just more or less snake being such a high tier character that makes it seem otherwise. Zard is mainly at a disadvantage because of the limited options out of D-throw. Squirtle really is the best starter here because his only problem is his weight which you can get around as a player with watergun camping and good DI. Squirtle does better than Zard but zard lives longer so overall its more opinion based as to who to start with.

MaTA · Mar 7, 2010

exactly what kith said, doesn't matter who you choose charizard or squirtle

its all about playing smart.

Yeah with charizard you really gotta be patient and not run in expecting to get a grab off or you'll get pivot grabbed. use your jumps wisely with him pushing the nades away with flamethrower. he wont motorslide into that. once you're in close predict his ftilts and grab him. and then when you grab him near the edge fthrow him to get him out more horizontal and start to attack then.

even when he's above the stage you have multiple jumps so use your up airs to keep him at a defense. You can usually grab them when they are falling because mostly all snakes will pull the grenade and switch the other direction.

Zigsta · Mar 16, 2010

Alrighty, I've taken control of this thread. Expect a massive rehaul of the OP within the week.

victra♥ · Mar 17, 2010

gg with the OP michael.

god **** it. lmfao.

T-block · Mar 17, 2010

yo vic

why do you keep creepin' on my boards

<3

edit: btw, i didn't intend to keep my vid there lol... i was thinking we actually use the hall of fame and do something like the PTBR with a featured video once in a while

vVv Rapture · Mar 18, 2010

I figured I'd get some help with my PT since I need it. Dunno if it's one of my best matches, but it was one of the few I was able to save the replay of. I apologize for the quality.

It's a WiFi match between myself and Allied. He can vouch for it, because I know you can't see the tags, but obviously he's Luigi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJa8Qba69kU

T-block · Mar 18, 2010

That was pretty good man. I think the Luigi could have played it a little better, but it's kay. I liked that your Squirtle was pretty patient in the beginning... maybe getting a little too aggressive towards the end of his time, but I guess it did get you the kill. By the time you got that kill you were already at full fatigue though, so there wasn't all that much pressure to get the kill. Just something to think about.

Good call switching to Ivysaur when you did. As for Charizard, don't use d-throw. It only does 6% total, and the knockback at low percents isn't useful for anything. D-throw should only be used to KO at 180+%, or to knock them far enough away to switch (like...80+%).

vVv Rapture · Mar 18, 2010

T-block said:
That was pretty good man. I think the Luigi could have played it a little better, but it's kay. I liked that your Squirtle was pretty patient in the beginning... maybe getting a little too aggressive towards the end of his time, but I guess it did get you the kill. By the time you got that kill you were already at full fatigue though, so there wasn't all that much pressure to get the kill. Just something to think about.

Good call switching to Ivysaur when you did. As for Charizard, don't use d-throw. It only does 6% total, and the knockback at low percents isn't useful for anything. D-throw should only be used to KO at 180+%, or to knock them far enough away to switch (like...80+%).

Thanks!

I feel like my Squirtle was a bit slow throughout the match. I guess I got aggressive just to switch it up since I was playing a tad defensively earlier and because he seems to get a bit more close, combat wise, because he wanted to get the kill, too.

The Ivysaur call ended up working out better than I thought. I was hoping to do a bit more damage and allow Squirtle to recover more in case Charizard didn't work out, but still, just the switch in general was beneficial. Glad you pointed that out.

I've always used the d-throw for Charizard because I've tried to follow up d-throw with Rock Smash or F-Air, even his dash attack, but see what you mean.

Again, thanks again for the comments.

T-block · Mar 18, 2010

B-throw/f-throw tend to set up for moves better than d-throw. Even u-throw works better if your opponent's character is susceptible to juggling. There really isn't much reason to use d-throw outside of high percent KOs and to get the switch.

vVv Rapture · Mar 18, 2010

T-block said:
B-throw/f-throw tend to set up for moves better than d-throw. Even u-throw works better if your opponent's character is susceptible to juggling. There really isn't much reason to use d-throw outside of high percent KOs and to get the switch.

Alrighty, sounds good. Maybe I just liked the novelty of breathing fire on a pinned opponent as a big dragon thing, lol.

But seriously, that's good to know. I'll try it out.

Aveean · Mar 23, 2010

Hey, I had a huge family emergency that caused me to disappear from the interwebs for a bit. I have returned to my video thread to see that the author has been changed to a moderator (although the posts are all in my exact words) and my video post somehow got deleted due to the switch.

Soo....not only did my vids get screwed but my posts are gone too, with not credit to me for setting this up (even though the main thread post is still my exact code and my exact words).

I understand switching the authors - that is a logical decision especially due to my absence, but could you at least credit me in the original post for setting this up (since you are still using my format)? And, as soon as I get all my videos posted again (since you guys deleted them by switching authors) could I please have my link fixed in the main post? =D

Thanks!

Zigsta · Mar 23, 2010

Eevzy said:
Hey, I had a huge family emergency that caused me to disappear from the interwebs for a bit. I have returned to my video thread to see that the author has been changed to a moderator (although the posts are all in my exact words) and my video post somehow got deleted due to the switch.

Soo....not only did my vids get screwed but my posts are gone too, with not credit to me for setting this up (even though the main thread post is still my exact code and my exact words).

I understand switching the authors - that is a logical decision especially due to my absence, but could you at least credit me in the original post for setting this up (since you are still using my format)? And, as soon as I get all my videos posted again (since you guys deleted them by switching authors) could I please have my link fixed in the main post? =D

Thanks!

Scroll down a bit--you'll still find your videos. If some of the links aren't working, I'll fix it soon. I have a film project I'm working on for the next few days, so I haven't been able to get to it yet.

Magik0722 · Apr 11, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5iDjmYf1aI
me vs ally, game 2

game 1 was similar last stock i think he was in 60-70%

Steeler · Apr 11, 2010

good stuff magik. you rolled a lot, i'm surprised ally didn't take advantage of it as well as he could have.

i would have liked to see you two play on a neutral.

Zigsta · Apr 11, 2010

Magik, you airdodged way too much early on, and Ally started punishing with nairs. But you did a good job of realizing your habits and correcting them. Very nice use of Zero Switching.

PokemonMasterIRL · Apr 12, 2010

Magik rockin that 2010 pt

glad to finally see some one spamming water gun like i have been saying for 2 years.

you **** magik

bigman40 · Apr 16, 2010

MaTA · Apr 17, 2010

nice reflex, i think you had a lot of missed opportunities for ledge grabs.. you got up early get ups and let them come back on.

rocksmash more!!!!

but i enjoyed them very much. lots of nairs

Kith · Apr 17, 2010

I saw Reflex playing today, and I've come to the conclusion that his Ivysaur's vines are longer than mine. O.o

Asa · Apr 18, 2010

Reflex gives his ivysaur high-quality pokéblocks to increase vine length

Zigsta · Apr 18, 2010

Asa said:
Reflex gives his ivysaur high-quality pokéblocks to increase vine length

No way man, it's all about Aprishakes now.

T-block · Apr 18, 2010

what ever happened to good old carbos =(

Asa · Apr 18, 2010

I <3 unfatigued squirtle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzfCykAQUFE - vs. snake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnxBWqYU_Ro - vs. kirby

my audio sux on my recording device so i replaced it with smooth jazz

T-block · Apr 18, 2010

looked more like MUDKIP to me

man i would play soooo differently if i played no-fatigue squirtle... those vids got me thinking

Steeler · Apr 18, 2010

consider this:

no fatigue squirtle is banned from tournament play

not even MK can claim that

it really does depress me though when i play as solo squirtle...

Asa · Apr 18, 2010

solo squirtle should fill you with joy

T-block · Apr 18, 2010

lol steeler...i like it

it's depressing to see what could have been, asa. sigh...

Steeler · Apr 19, 2010

like, before the game came out i was pretty anxious about how good squirtle would be, and he IS really good...but people can just plank/run away/whatever so it doesn't even matter D: when people say "man, if you could only play squirtle in tournament" i'm like ":[". oh well, train ivysaur and charizard!

Kith · Apr 19, 2010

Lol I'm a fool! After watching some of Reflex's videos I just came to the realization that his vines aren't really longer than mines...he dash grabs! He dash grabs a lot more than I do out of shield. I usually shield something, and drop shield and grab (and miss)....my god the most simple things sometimes don't even occur to me -.-

Gimpyfish62 · Apr 19, 2010

nah his vines are longer fo sho

TheReflexWonder · Apr 19, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l_W3znprRM

Squirtle can work magic sometimes.

(As an aside--I get destroyed for the first minute-and-a-half. That part is really embarrassing.)

Zigsta · Apr 22, 2010

I got a whole lotta friendlies in with the Olimar main from Austin a few weeks ago. We lost track of time and played doubles till midnight and realized we hadn't gotten any singles matches recorded, so you'll see me do some dumb stuff due to becoming increasingly tired, haha.

vs. SkyPirateCoud (Olimar) 1

vs. SkyPirateCoud (Olimar) 2

vs. SkyPirateCoud (Olimar) 3

vs. SkyPirateCoud (Olimar) 4

vs. SkyPirateCoud (Olimar)5

vs. SkyPirateCoud (Olimar) 6

vs. SkyPirateCoud (Olimar) 7

vs. SkyPirateCoud (Olimar) 8

vs. SkyPirateCoud (Olimar) 9

vs. SkyPirateCoud (Olimar) 10

vs. SkyPirateCoud (Olimar) 11

I'll make a post today containing all my videos and clean up the OP a bit. Gotta write some cover letters first.

PokemonMasterIRL · Apr 24, 2010

Im in the red.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk45TJqb9SE&playnext_from=TL&videos=r3gkea2i_r4

Gimpyfish62 · Apr 25, 2010

tight. lol.

Eljin · Apr 29, 2010

YO!!! where's the typh vids...?

PokemonMasterIRL · Apr 29, 2010

He quit PT like a year ago.

Buuda · May 3, 2010

Me.

VS DLA (Ganon) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXT9pOjzpHo <-- Old and I roll and spot-dodge WAYY too much. Still, I beat DLA, lol. I dun care if he's Ganon, I think he's f'ing incredible.

VS Sponge (Lucas):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3I9dbmU8gI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkfM1-PYWEU

VS Shawreck (Luigi):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phwq3mY2-qM

VS KenniSPAM (Ness):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jMhcSTkxp0

(gotta get moar replays. And better ones. lol. I'd say The one with DLA is most entertaining. And the ones VS Sponge because of all the Water Gun shenanigans. XD)

Check out dis spams Flaco:
VS KenniSPAM (being cocky thinking he can win as CF lol) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHp_bBibM44

Eljin · May 6, 2010

r u serious... i guess he said duck it.

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