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[_Yes!_]

I'm gonna buy the game tomorrow before my last final. I got this **** guys!

 

[Turbo Ether]

I'm gonna start watching Japanese vids. They are very disciplined.

 

[_Yes!_]

Any good youtube channels in mind?

 

[Max Ketchum]

Let's take it vs. UFB.

dm - MK
Shadow - Wario/Snake
Zucco - Lucario/Falco
Atomsk - Dedede/Pikachu/IC
Doom - Falco/Snake/Wario

 

[CT Chia]

and Fatal Snake

Wasn't ADHD in this crew at some point?

 

[Max Ketchum]

Yeah, ADHD was in before he left for Zodiac Braves.

Fatal never comes down here anymore, but if he did, we'd replace me or dm with him. We're easily the two worst in singles of those five.

 

[blackanese]

D: I wish Dazwa would come down and join lol.

 

[Turbo Ether]

Any good youtube channels in mind?

I search random things. SBO 09 vids were good, but old. Team Kantou vs Team Kansai is a good series of vanilla vids. FrameAdvantageDotCom is a good channel too.

---

What's with the random crew battle/Brawl drama?

 

[_Yes!_]

I meant ssf4 i'm already subscribed to lordaborigine.

 

[Turbo Ether]

Hmm.

This random UFB drama is already boring. Oh well.

 

[fkacyan]

First day back online and I kill Sindragosa and Lich King for the first time, get a 271 level weapon, and get my 100th win in AV.

I'm productive!

 

[Turbo Ether]

What wep did you get?

Edit: Oh, Glorenzelg.

 

[Snakeee]

I never know what's going on in this thread :'(

 

[Vex Kasrani]

I never know what's going on in this thread :'(

Come back to the xat ;[

 

[Vex Kasrani]

Also, Allied are you coming over or no?

 

[So Fatal]

Crew battle vs ufb? Im ****in in If im going wherever this is ahaha

 

[fkacyan]

What wep did you get?

Edit: Oh, Glorenzelg.

Actually, no. I got Havoc's Call, Blade of Lordaeron Kings (Which is an axe, ironically enough).

Gogo DW Frost.

 

[Turbo Ether]

Actually, no. I got Havoc's Call, Blade of Lordaeron Kings (Which is an axe, ironically enough).

Gogo DW Frost.

It'll be nice when plate classes won't have to resort to wearing agility gear.

 

[Turbo Ether]

Wow. Brawl frame data is hilarious to read. Advantage on block in Brawl? Nah chill.

 

[Max Ketchum]

Fox has the only non-projectile move with frame advantage on block.

 

[Turbo Ether]

Which move?

 

[CT Chia]

i dont even kno what frame advantage and block advantage stuff even means lol

i just do stuff that works

 

[Turbo Ether]

Everything in the Fox board frame data is disadvantage.

 

[Max Ketchum]

Fox's bair is +3 on block

 

[Atomsk_92]

Ether, Link me to Japanese Hakan vids pl0xers

 

[Turbo Ether]

Fox's bair is +3 on block

Fox boards have it listed as -50. -37 if auto-canceled. There is a major discrepancy.

Ether, Link me to Japanese Hakan vids pl0xers

I wouldn't know exactly where to look. Maybe the Hakan boards.

 

[bajisci]

i dont even kno what frame advantage and block advantage stuff even means lol

i just do stuff that works

And that is why you are bad.

 

[Turbo Ether]

Brawl- Fox and Brawl+ Falco are legit. I think MK is still top tier in Brawl+.

 

[Max Ketchum]

I played MK in Brawl- in NM and he's virtually unchanged. Tornado spikes, which is funny, and his B moves don't put you into helpless.

I think he's really good and only loses to the nonsense characters like Jigglypuff, Falcon, and Bowser.

 

[fkacyan]

It'll be nice when plate classes won't have to resort to wearing agility gear.

I agree. I'm nervous, though, because they're creating strength DPS 1h weapons that are essentially catering strictly to a specific brand of Fury warriors and DW DKs, which means those weapons will be very few and far between.

 

[Veril]

Wow. Brawl frame data is hilarious to read. Advantage on block in Brawl? Nah chill.

It kinda hurts to read. It doesn't help that some of it is really mediocre quality. That's going to change very soon though.

Fox has the only non-projectile move with frame advantage on block.

Several moves have shield-drop adv on block though.

Fox's bair is +3 on block

...

lolwut?

 

[Turbo Ether]

I'd be interested in seeing the B+ and P:M frame data.

 

[Max Ketchum]

The Fox's bair thing is just what I've heard. I'm sure that's if you do it super low to the ground, fast falling, fully spaced on their shield.

 

[Veril]

perfect land canceled fox bair has a 2 frame disadvantage.

ie. you hit on frame 9, land on frame 10, defended first actionable frame on 22 and attacker faf on 25. 13 frames shieldstun vs. 15 frames of landing lag. Perfect land cancel advantages are really easy to calculate.

The only aerials in vBrawl that I know to have a non-negative advantage on block are perfectly autocanceled peach fair and Lucas nair iirc.

 

[_Yes!_]

Fox's bair is safe on block.

 

[teh_spamerer]

Fox's bair is safe on block.

That doesn't mean it's +frames scrub. That just means it takes longer for an opponent to be able to do something than it does for you to be able to defend.

EDIT: Assuming Veril's data is accurate

 

[Turbo Ether]

Jabs and stuff in Brawl are as unsafe on block as supers are in Street Fighter.

 

[blackanese]

lmfao when it comes to frame and all that, veril goes hard with them facts.

 

[_Yes!_]

That doesn't mean it's +frames scrub. That just means it takes longer for an opponent to be able to do something than it does for you to be able to defend.

EDIT: Assuming Veril's data is accurate

Go finish hakan's trial mode.

 

[Allied]

Veril is beast like that.