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(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (／・ω・)／
- Thread starter Virgilijus
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Gotta back up my bro Sylarius~
Are you a masochist?
Sylarius
Smash Ace
/random
NH Cody
Smash Champion
What do you guys think about the Snake matchup?
hi by the way. I second Marth.
hi by the way. I second Marth.
Zano
Smash Master
impossible on wifi, winnable offline
ScareMl
Smash Journeyman
marth in general is just impossible on wifi.
and quest, read the snake guide somewhere in these boards.
Zano
Smash Master
he's manageable in wifi dubz at least. Almost top 16 in dubz laddurrr. Gettin me dat bloo name son!
shaya, approve of my ladder team page!
http://allisbrawl.com/ladder/player.aspx?id=75314
shaya, approve of my ladder team page!
http://allisbrawl.com/ladder/player.aspx?id=75314
I'm not a moderator on aib.
Although I approve in spirit.
Although I approve in spirit.
Zano
Smash Master
The mods on aib are ok with it, y u warn me : (
EDIT: oh, derp, double posting
EDIT: oh, derp, double posting
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Snake is a fun match-up. Our favor. Don't run into explosions and tilts that sound like explosions and you'll be fine.
ScareMl
Smash Journeyman
today, i had that epic mindgame moment where i broke my opponents shield and then the lag on wifi messed me up and i missed the punish. So i started charging another shieldbreaker, he came out of shieldstun and instinctively held shield, and i broke it again =)
vato_break
Smash Master
snake is easy just learn to spike on both sides.
vato_break
Smash Master
Zano
Smash Master
Got 4th at the tourney today, losing to the people that got 1st and 2nd.
How the **** do you fight against ness : (
How the **** do you fight against ness : (
Kuro~
Nitoryu Kuro
Get the grab and then infinite to death. Should never lose that mu.Mainly cuz the infinite isn't the only problem. It's just just a big *** cherry...
Don't jump if ness is above you (unless you're good at the mu [as in, similar to G&W, bair and uair will **** the living shizzles but if you're slow on the reaction, bad at the right spacing/etc, you're gonna get romped])
down tilt is amazing.
counter beats recovery options
down tilt is amazing.
counter beats recovery options
Zano
Smash Master
@Kuro- I wanna actually know the MU, not just grab him over and over, lol.
Fair beat out like everything I did and I was dumb and kept trying to hit him while he was doing it. I'll remember that for next time tho
Fair beat out like everything I did and I was dumb and kept trying to hit him while he was doing it. I'll remember that for next time tho
Down tilt most definitely beats his aerials.
Zano
Smash Master
Now I know, all too late, lasdfksl.
On a positive note tho, because the turnout for the tourney went well, the owner will let us start having tourneys there more often, probably monthlly, so FINALLY coastal bend will start having a legit scene
On a positive note tho, because the turnout for the tourney went well, the owner will let us start having tourneys there more often, probably monthlly, so FINALLY coastal bend will start having a legit scene
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Big pile of MMs and such of mine in the critique forum for your viewing pleasure.
I see Marth players still hopelessly overrate their match-ups and remain delusional about their character. No wonder the only ones that are actually successful with the character have more modest evaluations of his MUs but what's new.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Gheb, go away. That post offers absolutely nothing constructive to this social. Reporting for trolling.
U mad?
The post has a point but ofc you only ***** about somebody bursting your bubble. You all make up theory BS about Marth "beating Snake", "beating Olimar" and countless other BS, that's just lying to yourselves.
Average Marth thinks Marth beats Snake. It's even but random Marths don't listen when the ones that know about it speak up.
Average Marth thinks Marth beats Olimar. It's even but random Marths don't listen when the ones that Know about it speak up.
Same for Kirby, Sonic, Pikachu, Fox, Falco ...... there's a whole bunch of characters that fit that description.
Stop fantasizing about match-ups supposedly being in Marth's favor when they're not anywhere near that. You're all ****ing blinded and should not lie into people's faces who want to understand the Snake match-up [or anything that people ask here]. Especially when you don't know **** about the match-up. Or this whole game, really.
Edit: Like seriously, somebody asks about the match-up vs Ness and the best advice he gets is that "Marth should never lose to Ness" - something which is absolutely not true at all? It's no wonder this character has stopped making major progress when people like that spread fairy-tales.
The post has a point but ofc you only ***** about somebody bursting your bubble. You all make up theory BS about Marth "beating Snake", "beating Olimar" and countless other BS, that's just lying to yourselves.
Average Marth thinks Marth beats Snake. It's even but random Marths don't listen when the ones that know about it speak up.
Average Marth thinks Marth beats Olimar. It's even but random Marths don't listen when the ones that Know about it speak up.
Same for Kirby, Sonic, Pikachu, Fox, Falco ...... there's a whole bunch of characters that fit that description.
Stop fantasizing about match-ups supposedly being in Marth's favor when they're not anywhere near that. You're all ****ing blinded and should not lie into people's faces who want to understand the Snake match-up [or anything that people ask here]. Especially when you don't know **** about the match-up. Or this whole game, really.
Edit: Like seriously, somebody asks about the match-up vs Ness and the best advice he gets is that "Marth should never lose to Ness" - something which is absolutely not true at all? It's no wonder this character has stopped making major progress when people like that spread fairy-tales.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Snake IS +1 Marth.
Olimar is probably even, if not slightly Marth's favor.
Nobody plays Kirby.
Sonic/Marth is debatable, but very rarely happens at high level. I personally don't believe it's even from my somewhat limited experience with Espy, and would turn to Nike's opinion here.
Pikachu is DEFINITELY +1. Esam is notorious for overestimating his character (something you accuse us of), and I play this match-up constantly. There are some situations where it is even, but too often I find the Pikachu I play raging that he can't get in.
Fox I can see an argument for even, I lack experience here.
Falco I can also see as even. The discussion on this match-up the last time more or less boiled down to "It's even, but Marth has a really gay CG Spike that happens frequently enough not to be dismissed. Does that make it +1?"
Furthermore, you're basing the comment in your edit off of the fact that Kuro (ONE PERSON) said we shouldn't lose it, when Shaya in fact went and gave constructive advice, and I'm sure CJ would too.
You are here purely to incite flames, Gheb, and I won't stand for it.
Olimar is probably even, if not slightly Marth's favor.
Nobody plays Kirby.
Sonic/Marth is debatable, but very rarely happens at high level. I personally don't believe it's even from my somewhat limited experience with Espy, and would turn to Nike's opinion here.
Pikachu is DEFINITELY +1. Esam is notorious for overestimating his character (something you accuse us of), and I play this match-up constantly. There are some situations where it is even, but too often I find the Pikachu I play raging that he can't get in.
Fox I can see an argument for even, I lack experience here.
Falco I can also see as even. The discussion on this match-up the last time more or less boiled down to "It's even, but Marth has a really gay CG Spike that happens frequently enough not to be dismissed. Does that make it +1?"
Furthermore, you're basing the comment in your edit off of the fact that Kuro (ONE PERSON) said we shouldn't lose it, when Shaya in fact went and gave constructive advice, and I'm sure CJ would too.
You are here purely to incite flames, Gheb, and I won't stand for it.
CJ is also a smart poster and one of the few regulars of the Marth boards who isn't obnoxiously stuck in some superiority-complex mindset [or a troll like Chair].
And lol @ you saying ESAM "is notorious for overestimating his character" when most Marth players have been like that since 2008. Oh and ALL the people who have experience in the match-up [which also includes MH and Leon] say it's even so that case doesn't even apply here.
Keep living the dream tho.
And lol @ you saying ESAM "is notorious for overestimating his character" when most Marth players have been like that since 2008. Oh and ALL the people who have experience in the match-up [which also includes MH and Leon] say it's even so that case doesn't even apply here.
Keep living the dream tho.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Just because I provoke doesn't mean I'm trolling. I'm bringing up a legitimate concern but apparently it's not possible to talk to a Marth main about his character's match-ups being terribly overrated without being a major troll.
Lord Chair
Smash Master
Since when am I a troll.
Afaik I tend to post legitimately legit posts unless it's in social threads.
Afaik I tend to post legitimately legit posts unless it's in social threads.
Lord Chair
Smash Master
Hard to add someone on Skype if he doesn't have his contact details anywhere.
That put aside, browse my posts. I rarely troll.
That put aside, browse my posts. I rarely troll.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Gheb, don't even try to pretend this was a post designed at "talking".I see Marth players still hopelessly overrate their match-ups and remain delusional about their character. No wonder the only ones that are actually successful with the character have more modest evaluations of his MUs but what's new.
Everything about this post is inflammatory. I highlighted the particularly inflammatory parts just for you.
All backed up by facts fyi. I know the truth hurts though so I'll stop now.
Edit @T: He played a MM vs ESAM and he thinks it's even.
MasterOfGalaxies
Smash Apprentice
Absolutely nothing was gained from posting in that manner in the first place Gheb. =( I understand that you believe what you're saying, but even if it is true, there was no reason to say it while insulting Marth mains. It would have been easier and more productive, and just nicer and better, to say something like,
"I believe that many of you overestimate some of Marth's matchups. Some top-level Marths claim Marth is even in many matchups that other Marths believe are in his favor. Examples include etc. etc."
If you stated your point like this in the first place, perhaps Raziek wouldn't have immediately dismissed you as a troll, and something productive could be gained from this.
"I believe that many of you overestimate some of Marth's matchups. Some top-level Marths claim Marth is even in many matchups that other Marths believe are in his favor. Examples include etc. etc."
If you stated your point like this in the first place, perhaps Raziek wouldn't have immediately dismissed you as a troll, and something productive could be gained from this.
