(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (／・ω・)／

[Punishment Divine]

Just missed my train and therefore my bus to Raleigh.

Life is ****ing awesome =)

 

[Reizilla]

Mike, win for pancakes.

 

[mikeHAZE]

PD...no way to rebook?


thanks dc.

 

[Punishment Divine]

PD...no way to rebook?


thanks dc.

nah dawg the trains are all screwed up and lots of other things just weren't in my favor =/

 

[Shaya]

1. I thought diddy kong's spot dodge was 2-20 / 22

2. Marth's jump has 5 frames start up (he's in the air frame 6, fair oos is frame NINE. (so frame 1 of it is frame 6)

3. Shield drop is 7 frames.

 

[Reizilla]

I'm going with Shaya on the Diddy spot dodge thing.

 

[Toby.]

Diddy's spotdodge is 2-20 / 25 according to the spotdodge/roll/airdodge frame data thead - http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=225510&highlight=frame

I seem to remember reading that its actually 2-20 / 22 though...

 

[Shaya]

and i seem to recall diddy kong spot dodging everything too

 

[Lord Chair]

Loooool amount of wrong information here.

You guys are downright awful.

 

[Shaya]

diddy spot dodges everything man

EVERYTHING its annoying

 

[Toby.]

It's actually 1-22 / 22

 

[Reizilla]

where are our four light blue namers with their wealth of information?

 

[Espy Rose]

Out not maining a garbage character.

 

[Reizilla]

Don't be scared. Come to our tourney.

 

[Laurel]

light blue? i thought they were dark blue.

diddy is soooooooo gay

 

[Xyro77]

Its official, ive picked up marth as my 2nd and soon to be main. I currently main Samus(im the best one in the usa) and im SICK of losing to lesser people due to samus unwinnable MUs vs olimar and DDD. I played marth for 7 years in melee and already know the basics of brawl marth so I just need some practice and ill catch on quick. Plus, i have RoyR to play every day so i think i will be ok.

I have a few questions though:

1. Who all can Marth CG and how many times till they escape?

2. Does each slice of dancing blade refresh/stale? Meaning if my UP+B is completely stale, does it take 2 full dancing blades to almost fully refresh the UP+B?

3. Olimar vs Marth. Gimmi the low down.





Any and all help will be appreciated to the max. TGM is back, baby!

 

[etecoon]

1. http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=234060

2. each slash of DB counts against stale moves, so one full DB takes 4/9 of your stale moves out

4. playing marth because your former character was unviable is like bringing a knife to a gun fight because you were sick of using your bare hands

 

[Espy Rose]

TGM Combo will somehow be revived.
Accept it!

 

[Xyro77]

4. playing marth because your former character was unviable is like bringing a knife to a gun fight because you were sick of using your bare hands

Cept im actually GOOD at this game as well as melee and now that im totally focusing on marth i will not be held back by my character. ill slowly regain my correct place.


TGM COMBO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzZvR6CouV4



PS: thanks for the info btw! it really helps out.

 

[Reizilla]

Meet Metaknight. I think you're already well aquainted with DDD. They both say hi.

 

[Xyro77]

Meet Metaknight. I think you're already well aquainted with DDD. They both say hi.

MK is everybodies problem so im not worried. As for DDD i can just ledge stall for 8 min with Samus if i REALLY want to win. Marth is mainly for olimar.

 

[etecoon]

MK is everyone's problem but actual good characters like diddy, falco, and ice climbers are significantly less burdened than marth

don't you ban MK at half your events anyway? marth could work lol

 

[Espy Rose]

I think you mean Ledge Camp.
Stalling is by definition, banned.

 

[Blacknight99923]

Laurel this is what he meant by the light blue names(points at my name)

diddy's spotdodge is what pierce calls the "sacred spotodges" like falco, link (toonlike as well iirc) and someone else have extremely good sptododges.
its something like20-22 for lag

marths is 20-24
and everyone elses is like 20-25


or something close to it.

Marths is randomly better by one frame. I will go look up this detailed information now to verify this for you guys.

and if bengalz says something to the contrary your best off believing him

 

[Laem]

dedede's and robs spotdodges are unholy
cuz they are better than framedata suggests.

 

[Blacknight99923]

Marth
+5 up B oos(JC)
+6 Grab
Jab +11 (OoSD)
Foward Tilt+14(OoSD)
UpTilt+13(OoSD)
Downtilt+14(OoSD)
Forward smash +17 (OoSD)
Upsmash +12(JC)
Downsmash +13 (OoSD)
Nair+11 (OoSJ)
Fair+9(OoSJ)
Bair +12 (OoSJ)
Uair+11(OoSJ)
dair+11(OoSJ)
DB+11(Oosd)
Shield breaker+26 (OoSD)

OoSD-Shield drop
OoSJ-Jumping out of shield
JC-jump cancel


hopefully this will help a few of you calculate how much time you need to perform some moves on block but you will also need to remember spacing

 

[Laurel]

that's not blue that's turquoise dammit.

 

[Reizilla]

Looks light blue to me. Definitely not dark blue.

 

[Laurel]

scuuuuse me, i thought you meant BR since espy responded.

 

[Reizilla]

Why would I ask BR for info? BR doesn't know anything hehe

 

[Laurel]

idk i'm half-paying attention half the time i read SWF

 

[Haptic]

Thought I would introduce myself here. I'm Haptic, also previously known by the tags Rofl Pwny and Kirin. I played Marth in Melee and at the beginning of Brawl, and was active on this board back then, but haven't been here in a while since I've switched mains a lot over Brawl's lifetime. I'm back now though, and am looking to become half-decent with Marth again.

I've been analyzing videos of Mike, Neo, Roy, etc. for a while now and will hopefully have some videos of my own up soon for critique!

 

[Shaya]

Xyro, you will be EDUCATED.

 

[Blacknight99923]

Xyro will become a princely ruler of fem-fatals (or whatever the term is)

 

[Xyro77]

MK is everyone's problem but actual good characters like diddy, falco, and ice climbers are significantly less burdened than marth

don't you ban MK at half your events anyway? marth could work lol

I used to but i found better ways to restrict him without down right banning him.

I think you mean Ledge Camp.
Stalling is by definition, banned.

No. Cause what i do does not break any rule made.

Xyro, you will be EDUCATED.

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Can anybody take marth's green costume and replace the green parts of it it with lime green? The green that i am using to type is the perfect green. Can any body make that texture?

 

[etecoon]

I also want a lime recolor! using grimmroth for green marth atm though and that's pretty cool

 

[Angel.M <3 C:]

Whats with all these texas marths all of a sudden?! I might pick up marth again when i move there :] Teach these boys and girls a few things.

 

[Shaya]

Move to Australia.

Needs more female marth mains.

(inb4 australians come in here and infer there already is one)

 

[Thebest1pj]

let me tell you how have the best marth minus that ever faired this planet

 

[Blacknight99923]

ahahaha I get it

and I didn't really laugh