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YES!!! I own every singe KOS-MOS related game in Japanese and English >.>. Also I can't wait for the F/SN movie to come out!

yeah prolly

hahahahaah

jim too good

We MM'd before the tournament started and played a serious set after it finished.
I'll put em up.

Uhhhh yeah....=p

Didn't we agree it was the equivalent of what out tournament set would have looked like?

I wanted to eat yeah but I didn't since I wasn't super hungry and wanted to see if coming off of a win would make any difference.

Hahahahaha

I'm sure our MM/tourney set/serious set at billfest is >30 minutes. =p

If dad can't buy it he won't be interested more than half an hour or so.

I mean really, we couldn't smash long when I get there at like 6:45ish with an hour left to go to get home and possibly no food in me.

Lol it would have a chance of working if it wasn't a 4.5+ hour drive to me and back(without food stop).

Plus, dad wouldn't want to do anything in Hickory while we're smashing(he's married after all).

Even the most awesome people only have so much influence.

I can't do that now because my dad is taking me back.

No he won't want to stop by your house on the way lol.

I didn't think I would need it lol.

Also I was coming home two weeks after I left so I thought "why not?"

Lol your Fox is right. XD

I left it at home.

Also, I have no cube to try it with lol.

First Fox/Ganon match:

-Fsmash is actually not that good lol

-the first two times you get close to the edge you just crouch and take the Fair. Why? You could shield and go to the edge(take no damage/not die). The second Fair came from invincibility gayness. You just have to run around and keep your eye on what Ganon does. Stay around the middle of the stage and DD/WD a lot(intelligently) so that Ganon can't figure out where you're going.

-FH'ing is a good bait if you're not already stuck at the edge with Ganon under you

-your approaches and reactions to Ganon being close to you were just weird. you approached with like SHFFL Upair and jabbed a lot when close(bad idea) among other things.

-you know you get your jump back when Ganon up-Bs you, right?

-I'm gonna go ahead and guess you were having some fun this match. =p

Uhhhhh

that's probably a Peach boards question lol. I don't do that FC OOS stuff with her when I mess around with her the little bit I do.

Oh, well it felt like you shielded after aerial'ing a lot to me. Maybe I just misjudged it.

If he always techs it then just Bair and pull a turnip asap so you can keep pressuring him.

Doing Peach/Ganon game 2 because it's shorter lol:

-a lot of aggro mis-spaced Fairs in the beginning it could've been good but it's hard for me to explain how to have done that exactly right

-don't use turnips on a ganon that can DJ to the edge unless you jump above the edge and throw it down. I guess just grab the edge. Maybe FC Fair works I dunno.

-usually a bad idea to go OOS advancing toward Ganon(or other characters like Marth) since they're throwing priority at your shield. if you see a grab coming then obviously go for some counterattack there

-never mind you already knew about the turnip drop and throw down on ganon when he's pretty low

-follow your turnips if they hit or are throw at a good opportunity as they only are useful while they are still out to hurt/obstruct the opponent

-you drop your shield with every character at bad times.....

-you started picking it up and doing more good things at the end(until the SD), good shiz

Also yeah I'll go case-by-case with you if/when I come see you next.

First Peach/Fox match:

-watch Fox so that your turnip actually limits his movement. That's a tough Peach trick to master but it's ****.

-know Fox's range on his SH Nair so you can bait it easily.

-throwing out FC'd aerials is a good bait but it doesn't ork if you roll afterward

-jab to dsmash is good if fox starts to spotdodge

-I'm guessing you're having a hard time keeping your eyes on fox because you're throwing out moves too early and he's running away from any pressure you put onto him

-actually, stop shielding after you aerial(even if you missed). This is a good thing to remember because it keeps you moving and unpredictable.

-when edgeguarding firefox, go out there.

-unless you're low to the ground or Fox is shielding Dairs are probably not the best option

-follow up landed Bairs with Dsmash(lower %s), grabs(low/mid %s) or dash attacks(mid/high %s....if it still hits at high anyway).

-**** on his last stock =)

First Marth/Ganon match:

-start out with bad movement and just throwing out aerials. I guess you're just goofing off.

-learn when Uptilts won't connect so you can FH Uair to continue combos

-Ftilt is not usually a good option vs Ganon

-Uptilt-Fsmash rarely works on Ganon(if ever as far as I know), so it's best to begin Fair'ing after Uptilts at 60%+. You might be punished if you don't tipper that low so mess around with it.

-needs more DD'ing imo

-I don't advise jabbing

-try to avoid being above ganon

-ledgehop Nair is usually bad vs Ganon because he'll either shield grab it or aerial you(Nair's low front hitbox leaves him vulnerable to Bairs and Uairs).

-WD OOS or retreating Dair OOS if you're in your shield with your back to your opponent. Bair is no good there. which reminds me

-WD OOS more. It's really good with Marth(and peach some too).

-follow up a connected aerial with a grab(no DDs) or DDs(usually to grab but maybe to a smash or something). your opponent will be afraid of both so be smart about when you go in.

-grab more

-oh yeah, and usually Fthrow is your best option(unless you can Dthrow offstage).

-be more patient while edgeguarding....especially ganon

-delay the Fairs from the edge or FF them so that there is not a lot of time you are exposed in lag.

-marth's spotdodge isn't very good.

-you should try to control the center stage more. you let yourself get stuck in your shield by the edge too much

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After watching the first Falcon/Ganon match, I'll say that:

-could use a little recovery work, but it's not terrible.

-need to Upthrow to knee

-need to be a little more aggro offstage vs bad offstage characters like Ganon

-Dthrow and Uthrow are basically your only two throws unless you feel so compelled by an edge lol. Mess around with them on Ganon because they can both lead to knees/Uair-knees.

-too much raptor boost

-need to **** Ganon with Upairs when you're below him. Learn the spacing of them and how much range you can cover in a dashing jump with them.

-learn when to use your shield and what you can do out of it

I KNEW there was something I still had to do.

I'll check em out in a sec. Promise.

Lol if you say so.

Lol how do you know what he was trying to do?

LOL

those weren't accidental.

Lol man Falcon is soooo legit.

Well yeah it's hard to hate Falcon lol.

Jim hates fighting Falcon I think.

Sounds pretty legit though. I'll check em out.

Marth's ledge traps are so good.Probably plank a little, shoot lasers and shoot gyros and if you hit try to get back on quickly. If he's too close fair him.

Ummm, Probably try to get to the side to get down, maybe use up b. It's pretty rough, not gonna lie. don't get above him.

You're getting really close. You already have beaten me....but just now hard enough for you lol.

Oh wow good luck man.

I'm playing until the end of January. You have a few chances(meaning I'll probably try to come up during the break). =p

I might do occasional friendlies just to keep my mind in it a little but I'll really be done then.

Me toooooooooo

So you can beat me with two characters. =p

Yeah, seriously ask Karn. He's good at it.

You play the matchup really fucin well.

Take some tips from Karn on getting back onto land though. He's much better at it than you are.

Oh yeah....man you're unlucky. It's good ROB experience though, I guess.

Oh wow. Good luck man.

I still wish you could've gone.

He's from TN is the reason he could pick you up. That's all. Sorry to get your hopes up.