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[Jaguar360]

oh hey SPEAKING OF ZELDA

It dawned on me while labbing stuff with her earlier that her nair's landing lag is so stupidly high because if it were lower, landing nair>FW would give her an effortless kill combo.

Also we bash her smashes a ton here but I think I don't use fsmash/dsmash enough. Usmash honestly seems pretty cool for trapping airdodges too tbh.

Sorry if this turns out to be a double post or if this was addressed already, but doesn't N-air auto cancel if you fast fall it? That should probably make n-air to FW a thing.

 

[SBphiloz4]

I heard this Pokemon is tearing up the metagame, with a 35% usage rate in teams. His Hoo-hah move is his signature move that does massive damage with little drawback.

Smogon might consider banning him.

 

[|ven|]

I heard this Pokemon is tearing up the metagame, with a 35% usage rate in teams. His Hoo-hah move is his signature move that does massive damage with little drawback.

Smogon might consider banning him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euotq0LLNdo​

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

I have a feeling that nobody will care about this little story, but I have nowhere else to vent really. This will probably be a long-ish post.

Yesterday, my school had a tournament. It ended up being two stock Free for All, thankfully changed from items on and 3 minutes. The moment I heard of the Smash tournament, I planned to win and was the favorite to win it. Once I heard that it was Free for all, I practiced every night and adjust to the playstyle. I was doing really well with Zelda against the level 9 CPUs and knew that I would be ready to win the tournament using her. Though I hadn't played Smash on the Wii U yet, I was certain that I would be able to either easily adapt the control scheme on the ever-praised GC controller or just use someone's 3DS as the controller if I felt more conformtable with that.

The tournament came and I was ready to go. It was more hype than I had expected it to be and had a lot of fun watching even if half of the people didn't appear to be very good. When my turn was up, I was faced against four of my closest friends. I was confident that I would win.

Only two control methods were available: GC controller and Wii Remote w/ Nunchuck. 3DSs weren't allowed for the sake of time. Though I had played Brawl with the Wii remote and Nunchuck years ago and never played with the GC controller in Smash, I went with the controller because I heard so many good things about it. There was no time for a button check. I was soon up against two Lucarios and a Shulk and the match began.

I noticed that my movement felt much more awkward than I was used to on the 3DS. I couldn't grab or use pivot attacks well either. Thus, I was reduced to Farore's Wind spam and it worked for the most part. I got two elevator kills that hyped the crowd behind me and nearly killed a Lucario with a lightning kick at 57% near the ledge. I couldn't control the Farore's Winds very well, though and was left vulnerable multiple times in the air. I knocked the Shulk out with an elevator and it was me and the two Lucarios left, but I tragically ran into one of the Lucario's f-smashes. However, he got knocked out by the other Lucario at the same time and tied for 2nd with me. Originally we were going to have a 2 stock 1 v 1 game, but the rules were changed to Sudden Death. I started to worry, knowing that the tiniest mistake could take me out of the tournament. My strategy was to quickly dash to shield, then punish the Aura Sphere. Instead, I ended up slowly walking into an uncharged Aura Sphere and dying. I was heartbroken and filled with . Seeing a Greninja player in the 1 v 1 finals produced even more , especially since I knew that mine was better than his (he had a solid Greninja though).

I wasn't angry and my friend tried to comfort me after the battle, knowing that wasn't fair, but I was extremely depressed for the rest of that day and this morning. I was filled with doubt about pretty much everything, and questioned my plans on attending a true tournament in August. After all, if I can't win a small, non-serious local at my school, where I know more than anyone else about Smash, how could I do anything but embarrass myself at a tournament with the likes of False, NAKAT and Keitaro?

I knew that the controls and the rules of the tournament were likely a factor, but I didn't want to make excuses for myself. However, this afternoon I decided to try and find closure by playing Brawl on my actual Wii instead of on my PC after 2-3 years and with the GC controller.

I was terrible.

I knew that it was the controller now that was the issue moreso than my actual skill, especially since I had played Brawl on my PC hours before and had done well. Movement felt really clunky and no matter what control scheme I chose, grabbing and doing specials felt really awkward. In Mario Kart Wii, however, I was just as good as I was when I left, though that was probably because I played Double Dash before. After my play session, I felt a bit bitter, though still a bit worried about my Smash career.

I do have a few questions to propose. Are my complaints about the format and controls valid, or am I just making excuses? Am I right to be as worried as I am? Am I a scrub?

Some final statements I'd like to make:
F*** THE GAMECUBE CONTROLLER
F*** FREE FOR ALL
F*** SUDDEN DEATH
F*** LUCARIO
BAN ZELDA

"Are my complaints about the format and controls valid, or am I just making excuses? " They're absolutely valid. Place anyone with an unfamiliar controller and they're guaranteed to do much worse than they normally would.

"Am I a scrub?" Gorl, you shouldn't even ask this. You're obviously not seeing how far you got.

"Am I right to be as worried as I am?" Absolutely not. Running into Lucario's fsmash was just a careless mistake and we all make mistakes like that, just be a little more careful if you get in a similar situation. About the controller, don't feel worried at all, like pls. Not playing as well on a controller you don't use is no reason to get worried. Using the Wii remote w/ nunchuk when you're used to the 3DS is as if you mained Link and were forced to use Toon Link; they're similar, but still very different and will mess you up if you're not used to it.

Pls don't worry gorl. You have no reason to.

Also, I agree.
F*** LUCARIO

Sorry if this turns out to be a double post or if this was addressed already, but doesn't N-air auto cancel if you fast fall it? That should probably make n-air to FW a thing.

Omg I wish. It autocancels from a SH, but not from a fast fall

 

[Soul.]

Hyper Voice erm Sylveon is 3rd most used in doubles.


I'm bad at math but it's like... 1/6 chance to not pass down necessary IV from Ditto. 50% chance for even remaining IV. So 1/12 which is 8.3% according to my calculator.

You play Doubles too? I mean VGC. inb4 battle spot requires a PGL account
And I can see that. Hopefully lady luck hears my plea... later. As I'm trying to get a Sand Rush Drilbur for no reason. #sandteams

 

[Lavani]

All the shinies I like (doesn't necessarily mean I prefer them to the default though):

Spoiler

Ninetales
Ponyta/Rapidash
Slowbro
Starmie
Omastar
Mega Ampharos
Umbreon
Kingdra
Mega Gardevoir
Roselia/Roserade
Milotic
Serperior (50/50 tbh)
Emboar (I hate this thing though so w/e)
Gigalith
Larvesta (NOT Volcarona though)
Spritzee/Aromatisse
Slurpuff
Klefki
Pumpkaboo/Gourgeist
Noibat (NOT Noivern)

Sorry if this turns out to be a double post or if this was addressed already, but doesn't N-air auto cancel if you fast fall it? That should probably make n-air to FW a thing.

It does not.

 

[Alacion]

You play Doubles too? I mean VGC. inb4 battle spot requires a PGL account
And I can see that. Hopefully lady luck hears my plea... later. As I'm trying to get a Sand Rush Drillbur for no reason. #sandteams

I used to play Smogon singles and recently tried out VGC. Once I'm done with finals I'll be spending more time on VGC and attending a bunch of premier events.

 

[SBphiloz4]

Never 5get gorls

Wtf how did they not know Suicune evolves into Seviper smh

 

[|ven|]

Never 5get gorls

The shady comments though,
lampshades120 1 month ago
makes sense Ash would make this mistake. He doesn't even know that electric doesn't affect ground

 

[kenniky]

F*** THE GAMECUBE CONTROLLER
F*** FREE FOR ALL
F*** SUDDEN DEATH
F*** LUCARIO
BAN ZELDA

You're turning into @Fernosaur

Also can I just say Gaur Plains is probably the most STACKED stage in terms of music? Like you have the Xenoblade stuff, but then you have this Baten Kaitos track as well.

 

[Ffamran]

Speaking of ZeRo...

#RIPZeRO
#RIPFalco
#BanPalutena
#NerfPalutena
#RemovePalutena
#TunasAreNotAllowed
#BanHalberd
#SakuraiWaifuGameTooStrong

Yay...

 

[Alacion]

The shady comments though,
lampshades120 1 month ago
makes sense Ash would make this mistake. He doesn't even know that electric doesn't affect ground

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You forget that it's the anime where dodge is a legit and the most commonly used move and this is a th ing https://youtu.be/V1fuEA9_Qt0?t=3m54s

 

[Warchamp7]

Thanks for taking the time to answer, but it doesn't seemed to have worked

Dang, I was guessing your window was zoomed.

Your avatar looks fine to me though, doesn't seem blurry

 

[Soul.]

ayy lmao, I got a 5IV Adamant Sand Rush Drilbur

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Never 5get gorls

Wtf how did they not know Suicune evolves into Seviper smh

So when I was younger and didn't know much about Pokemon I played the Hoenn games before the Kanto games and I s2g for like a year straight I actually thought Arbok evolved into Seviper and you just couldn't evolve it into Seviper cuz Arbok wasn't in Hoenn. Why would you do this to me, Pokemon TV show :^(

 

[Lorde]

Forget IrrelevantBlade Plains, Mario Galaxy is the stage with the best music.

 

[Rizen]

Halberd shouldn't be legal in SSB4 considering all the good Uair kill moves and setups.

 

[Soul.]

Forget IrrelevantBlade Plains, Mario Galaxy is the stage with the best music.

Windy Hill or riot.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Idk how you can think any stage other than Gaur Plains has the best music
Like, rly. Xenoblade has amazing music

Spoiler

 

[Lorde]

Windy Hill or riot.

But the best song in the game is:

Spoiler

and Mario Galaxy also has:

Spoiler

 

[Lavani]

@ WolfieXVII ❂ what dimensions are the avatars you're uploading? I'd guess the forum's changing your avatar size and that's why things are looking different.

 

[Nammy12]

Idk how you can think any stage other than Gaur Plains has the best music
Like, rly. Xenoblade has amazing music

Spoiler

Sakurai how could you forget this one?

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

@ WolfieXVII ❂ what dimensions are the avatars you're uploading? I'd guess the forum's changing your avatar size and that's why things are looking different.

I tried one earlier that was 400X311, I tried making it smaller and bigger
My current one is 500X313, I also tried the same thing
SB

vs. The real pic

no matter which size I try, all my avis are crap quality

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Sakurai how could you forget this one?

Another one I was disappointed that didn't get in is:

It's such a great song, yet it only plays once in Xenoblade and it didn't get in Smash either. It would have been so fitting for Gaur Plains too

 

[Soul.]

Why is it so hard to get a King's Rock. Ugh

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I hope Ness back throw disappears this Thursday.

 

[Princess Toady]

There was a technique to get Pokémon to drop items that you wanted.

Put a KO'd Venomat infront of your team with the ability Compound Eyes. Then have a Pokémon like Banette with Frisk on the second slot, and then find which Pokémon drops King's Rock. Normally Venomat should increase your chances to find a Pokémon with an item while Banette tells you what they have. Once you find your King's Rock, simply steal it with Thief.

Hope that helps ! I was trying to find a Club Bone or whatever it's called (to double Marowak's power) and I found one on my third try with this technique.

 

[|ven|]

* googles every pokemon item you guys talk about so he doesn't look like a n00b

 

[Lavani]

I tried one earlier that was 400X311, I tried making it smaller and bigger
My current one is 500X313, I also tried the same thing
SBView attachment 47013 vs. The real pic View attachment 47014
no matter which size I try, all my avis are crap quality

Yeah, there's the problem; the original image has to be downscaled, so a quality loss is unavoidable.

Ideally you'd crop the image more (idk what the avatar size is for premium but I'm guessing max width is 150px) but you can use sharpening filters in an image editor otherwise:

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

I hope Ness back throw disappears this Thursday.

Sonic's as well

 

[Princess Toady]

I hope Ness doesn't get too nerfed... For once he's actually viable, lol.

 

[Alacion]

* googles every pokemon item you guys talk about so he doesn't look like a n00b

Which games have you played?

 

[|ven|]

Which games have you played?

I've played most but I only play it to play not competitive ;o; I've been told my pokemon are good though

 

[Macchiato]

* googles every pokemon item you guys talk about so he doesn't look like a n00b

Your not alone

 

[Lavani]

Give Ness' bthrow to Zelda
Give Sonic's bthrow to Ness
Give ZSS' bthrow to Sonic

 

[Alacion]

I've played most but I only play it to play not competitive ;o; I've been told my pokemon are good though

Honestly the best way to get started is decide if you prefer singles or doubles (or both). There's a LOT of YouTube content for both competitive scenes.

Personally I used to prefer singles but doubles is a lot more creative and interesting.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

I'm way more hype about the balance patch than Mewtwo
I can't wait to see S****y Kong go down in flames

 

[KuroganeHammer]

http://smashboards.com/threads/afraid-of-1-0-6.397706/#post-18961762

 

[Alacion]

I don't see Ness having a nerfed bthrow.

 

[Moydow]

And I'm sitting here awaiting the inevitable Diddy "nerfs" that will somehow turn out to actually be buffs.

seriously though Ness' b-throw is dumb and I would love to see it go away