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[Berserker.]

I'm not using Zeldawful, that MU was *** in Brawl I can only imagine it in this game

Oh. Don't know much about Palutena or whoever you're using but here's the general strategy. Try not to get grabbed often although that's easier said than done though. Spot dodging is your best bet against Monkey flip. I also remember something about DI'ing on Diddy's back when he throws you. That way, he's probably not going to u-air you and you'll eat a f-air instead. When Diddy's off-stage go for the kill. Use any move that lingers for quite a while against his recovery because when you hit him, he's done. Most Diddys (Key word: Most) try to roll back and go for d-tilt or grab. Try beating him first by grabbing him before he grabs you

Why do so many smash players have a Twitter? Do I need to make one and is there even a point if I have no followers?

I was asked 9999 times to make a twitter but I'm like, "No."

 

[Alacion]

I was asked 9999 times to make a twitter but I'm like, "No."

Mhm. If I had a Twitter, I would probably tweet something like http://youtu.be/Vie34wafTD4?t=5m30s. Oh well, I'll spare myself the stress.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Mhm. If I had a Twitter, I would probably tweet something like http://youtu.be/Vie34wafTD4?t=5m30s. Oh well, I'll spare myself the stress.

ugnnnnghhghh stooooooooopppppp

You're killing me here

 

[micstar615]

I have a twitter with 1200 followers :3 it's because I have no life

 

[Alacion]

I have a twitter with 1200 followers :3 it's because I have no life

Impressive. Honestly, I'd be happy if I had like 5 people who actually cared about stuff I tweeted

 

[ZombieBran]

I have 4(5?) twitter accounts

one of them I tweeted with exactly twice and got 12 followers

 

[micstar615]

Impressive. Honestly, I'd be happy if I had like 5 people who actually cared about stuff I tweeted

Honestly, idek how I got so many followers I guess it's because I'm part of a few fandoms but I don't get too many responses for the stuff I tweet -.- there's a lot of annoying people on twitter tbh

 

[KuroganeHammer]

heres mine https://twitter.com/KuroganeHammer

its not interesting but w/e

/self plug

 

[ZombieBran]

"Melee players standing around brawl setups complaining about brawl, oh my god is this really still a thing people do"

UUUugh, Melee elitists.

 

[Alacion]

"Melee players standing around brawl setups complaining about brawl, oh my god is this really still a thing people do"

UUUugh, Melee elitists.

Yeah but then they get banned in your local Smash FB group <3

 

[micstar615]

heres mine https://twitter.com/KuroganeHammer

its not interesting but w/e

/self plug

Followed! :3

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Aero explain ZSS's up b

What needs explaining? Its a multi hit up b with the last hit having KO potential rivalling Zelda's brawl usmash

Followed! :3

thanks!

 

[KuroganeHammer]

No idea, SDI barely exists in this game, I'd have to research it.

 

[Rickster]

I think it might have a bit of Zelda Smashes syndrome. The whole thing doesn't even land for me 70% of the time.

And I was in training.

 

[Furret]

I think it might have a bit of Zelda Smashes syndrome. The whole thing doesn't even land for me 70% of the time.

And I was in training.

It's sad when I have to say "Which one?"

 

[Rickster]

It's sad when I have to say "Which one?"

It's even sadder when I have to say "Both."

Spoiler

 

[IsmaR]

This thread may help.

http://smashboards.com/threads/up-b-lets-understand-this-move.375806/

This is due your opponent's damage allowing it to escape the move using its own knockback, because all of the upB's hits have knockback scaling. This is perfectly normal (unless Sakurai and Namco wanted to give the "boost" set knockback). This also means the move is no longer a viable KO move if you opponent has too much damage (I think it's around 120% for most of the cast)

 

[Furret]

It's even sadder when I have to say "Both.

It's saddest when I have to confirm and say "ya they do that"

Edit:

It kills mega early, I feel like this is a recurring trend in this game.
I can be winning a match by very large percent, then I get hit by a characters move at 90% and die.
The rage mechanic is dumb in my opinion.
Doesn't benefit Palutena very well at all.

no clue why the rage mechanic can't be turned on/off in options
just like it can't remember I WANT IT ON STOCK
(finish edit)

Spoiler

thanks Sakurai

 

[Berserker.]

heres mine https://twitter.com/KuroganeHammer

its not interesting but w/e

/self plug

Basketball fan you say?

You heard about James Harden's amazing defensive skills? Totally DPOY material

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Basketball fan you say?

You heard about James Harden's amazing defensive skills? Totally DPOY material

I read about this on ESPN LOL

Defense has never been something he excels in, then it's like, IM THE DEFENSE CARRYLORD

 

[Alacion]

Basketball used to be a thing but nobody really cared about the Vancouver Grizzlies so they moved to Memphis.

I don't follow the sport though.

 

[Gay Ginger]

Hi all! I'm new to Smash Boards. Looking forward to getting to know some fellow Zelda lovers

So can I get out of it or not?

:/

I've noticed that I've fallen out of the move a couple times, but I can't tell if it was something I did to escape or if they just landed the move poorly. Most of the time, the move wrecks me though :/

And speaking of escaping moves and ZSS...has anyone noticed that she "falls" out of Zelda's Fsmash much more consistently than any other character? Even when grounded, my Fsmashes only seem to connect 1/4 times at best -- and it's even worse at higher percents. It's so bad that I try my best to avoid the move altogether...

 

[Alacion]

Hey, welcome to the Zelda boards!

Feel like floaties can escape the up b more easily... I also believe it's even stronger than Zelda's Brawl up smash. Haven't tested the fsmash mechanics though.

Think Ken's Peach theory needs a new variation, if you catch my drift

 

[Berserker.]

And speaking of escaping moves and ZSS...has anyone noticed that she "falls" out of Zelda's Fsmash much more consistently than any other character? Even when grounded, my Fsmashes only seem to connect 1/4 times at best -- and it's even worse at higher percents. It's so bad that I try my best to avoid the move altogether...

I (And pretty much everyone in this thread) noticed this also. It's saddening

 

[Gay Ginger]

Hey, welcome to the Zelda boards!

Feel like floaties can escape the up b more easily... I also believe it's even stronger than Zelda's Brawl up smash. Haven't tested the fsmash mechanics though.

Think Ken's Peach theory needs a new variation, if you catch my drift

Thanks! If you do test the fsmash mechanics, I'd love to know what you find. It's just something I've noticed happening a lot in For Glory matches. The last match I fought (today actually) my opponent's ZSS bounced out of 2 fsmashes and an usmash, all at KO percent :/ It was so frustrating lol.

imo you should try avoiding using this character all together.

I've accepted she's terrible, but I love her anyway. I've used her since Melee and I'm not about to stop now.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Hey, welcome to the Zelda boards!

Feel like floaties can escape the up b more easily... I also believe it's even stronger than Zelda's Brawl up smash. Haven't tested the fsmash mechanics though.

Think Ken's Peach theory needs a new variation, if you catch my drift

It's 4% 220 KBG vs 5% 210 KBG, I think the 1% is worth more than 10 KBG.

Hi @ Gay Ginger !

Basketball used to be a thing but nobody really cared about the Vancouver Grizzlies so they moved to Memphis.

I don't follow the sport though.

its not ice hockey

 

[ZombieBran]

And speaking of escaping moves and ZSS...has anyone noticed that she "falls" out of Zelda's Fsmash much more consistently than any other character? Even when grounded, my Fsmashes only seem to connect 1/4 times at best -- and it's even worse at higher percents. It's so bad that I try my best to avoid the move altogether...

YES YES YES

It is the worst thing. Especially since that is already not a very pretty matchup for us.

Anyway, welcome!

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Also

http://smashboards.com/threads/zeld...he-best-of-pages.344739/page-73#post-18210104

I have experienced the pain that is fsmash vs ZSS

 

[Gay Ginger]

YES YES YES

It is the worst thing. Especially since that is already not a very pretty matchup for us.

Anyway, welcome!

I guess Zelda's magic just doesn't know what to do with ZSS' new body proportions lol

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I guess Zelda's magic just doesn't know what to do with ZSS' new body proportions lol

 

[ZombieBran]

I'm going to replay that game because of you Aero
whyyyy

As soon as I find it.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

#worth #sorrynotsorry #oop

 

[Berserker.]

Idk if it's just me but Zelda's d-air is one trillion times easier to sweet spot than her f-air or b-air

 

[Gay Ginger]

Idk if it's just me but Zelda's d-air is one zillion times easier to sweet spot than her f-air or b-air

I've noticed I have a lot more luck with d-air as well. So glad it can sweetspot grounded opponents now...

 

[KuroganeHammer]

That's because they increased her dair sweetspot size to 4 from 2.5.

It almost doubled in size from Brawl!

 

[Gay Ginger]

That's because they increased her dair sweetspot size to 4 from 2.5.

It almost doubled in size from Brawl!

Awesome! Now only if they had nearly doubled the sweetspots for her Lightning Kicks...

Does any one else feel like her LKs got much worse from Brawl (which is saying something)? The endlag and the landing lag make the move so punishable

 

[ZombieBran]

Yeah. And I feel like they're weaker (though this may be confirmation bias; I should've checked earlier when I had the chance)

They feel (again, just a feeling) easier to land though, I think their hitbox size was slightly increased?

 

[Gay Ginger]

I don't know about weaker, but they do feel a bit easier to land. But it unfortunately doesn't make up for the massive lag

 

[Meru.]

Yeah. And I feel like they're weaker (though this may be confirmation bias; I should've checked earlier when I had the chance)

They feel (again, just a feeling) easier to land though, I think their hitbox size was slightly increased?

Today, I killed a grounded Sheik at 47% from the middle of an omega stage with a fresh Bair.

Granted, I was at like 140+% so I think they made the knockback a bit weaker to compensate for the ridiculous effect Rage can have.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

They're slightly weaker than Brawl's. The sweetspot size is the same though.